Crysis Warhead Game Revealed

ArkanHell · Jun 5, 2008

crysys sucks, sorry by that, is a silly, stup!d game, incredible and no reason heavy on hardward demand, and abslutly bouring.

GJSNeptune · Jun 5, 2008

Thank you for your post.

InnocentCriminal · Jun 5, 2008

LOL!

Why he felt he had to tell us that I don't know. Funny mind.

ShadowFold · Jun 5, 2008

Warhead is an expansion!!! WOOO!!!

CDdude55 said:
I hope this one is optimized so i can run it on my system. Which is mid spec.

The article I linked says the devs are saying its gonna be more optimized.

"With Warhead, we are focusing on refining our storytelling and game performance, while also delivering more of the visually stunning graphics and immersive, free-roaming gameplay everyone loved in Crysis,"

GJSNeptune · Jun 5, 2008

Sweet. Through the eyes of Psycho. That should be fun, although who the hell knows exactly where he wound up for most of the second half.

PC-exclusive! :rockout:

ShadowFold · Jun 5, 2008

I hope we wont have to fight too many aliens. I thought the Koreans were funner

HTC · Jun 5, 2008

HTC said:
Will the sequel be "Pure" DX 10.1?

If so, it will be interesting to see how the "next gen" cards handle the increase to higher resolutions with everything on very high ...

Valdez said:
No.

I think i didn't ask the right question

What i meant was ... will it run on XP or is it for Vista only?

GJSNeptune · Jun 5, 2008

*more fun

The aliens at first were annoying. Once you returned to land they weren't so bad. I got pretty tired of all the enemies. FEAR was nice 'cause every so often there'd be enemies with something new. Crysis had something similar, but the enemies weren't really any harder. The Korean nanosuits were the only entertaining enemy to fight.

farlex85 · Jun 5, 2008

DarkMatter said:
As I said, I played a diferent game!

In mine when outpowered the enemies would do one of these things:

1- RUN to another basement or enemy groups and then return with assistance.

2- MAKE SIGNALS from afar, shouting to call the attention of a not too distant group and I swear I have even seen them whistling.

3- If you let them reach to the point they have them, they will use flares to call reinforcements.

There is one thing that foes didn't do in my Crysis game and that is stay without doing anything. IF YOU used Predator tactics all the time killing enemies one by one IT'S NORMAL they didn't react, just as happened in PREDATOR, they will stay in panic. That's what happens when I do that, but if only one enemy spotted me killing another he calls every others to my position, until I dissapear off course. When this happpens they start shooting as mad to the point I was. That's alot more advanced than the lame reactions of Halo and Halo2. Don't know about 3 though.

EDIT: Anyway forget about Predator. Think about Rambo films, First Blood specifically.

Well, one more time, it is not normal to kill an entire company and have one guy who saw it all happen stand around exactly as he did the first time he spotted you. I don't care what they did in Predator, Rambo, ect., that is not normal, not human, not realistic. And I guess we must have played different games, b/c not once did an enemy retreat to call some friends, even on my delta runthrough.

Perhaps our different AI experiences are deriving from our different tactical approaches. I frequently cloak and sneak, and prefer to take my time dispatching the baddies in the funnest way I can. They do not handle this well. Perhaps running in guns a blazin inspires different reactions. I did it a couple of times and noticed nothing, but I dunno.

Also, its true, FPS AI is basically just a few set reactions to player stimulus, its nothing really "intelligent." They simply must react in a believable way, and a way that improves their chances of survival. Not many games do it that well. As I remember it, Halo did it exceptionally well, but I may be biased as I remember that experience much more fondly than Crysis. Crysis suffers more from its lack believable AI because the graphics are so incredible. The game looks so good and the enviornment draws you in so well and gives you a realistic perception. When the AI fails to do this, it sticks out like a sore thumb, and does a lot to ruin the overall gameplay for me.

Essientially, there is nothing imo terribly wrong w/ Crysis. The AI and gameplay are not terrible, or even worse than many games. Without the graphics however, it is to me at least a perfectly ordinary first person shooter not worth the acclaim it initially got, and not really worth the time to play it. Its not that bad, its just not that good.

GJSNeptune · Jun 5, 2008

HTC said:
Will it run on XP or is it for Vista only?

As long as it supports DX9, you can run it under XP, and right now, with XP still pretty popular, I'd be surprised if it didn't.

ShadowFold · Jun 5, 2008

I thought the nano suit dudes were kinda hard cause the first time I played through when I got to that point I had no ammo :laugh:

HTC · Jun 5, 2008

GJSNeptune said:
As long as it supports DX9, you can run it under XP, and right now, with XP still pretty popular, I'd be surprised if it didn't.

I know, dude, but i think you missed the point.

I was hoping that, if such a title which (i assume) is so GPU demanding, if it were Vista only (DX 10), the next gen card pros and cons would be clearly visible as resolutions, on very high settings, were increased ...

GJSNeptune · Jun 5, 2008

I wouldn't count on it. Crysis under DX10 isn't much better than under DX9, and the improvements were only certain aspects. It's not a blanketed increase in performance. Might be different for other games, but since Warhead is supposed to come out in the Fall, maybe it'll have a bigger performance gap between the two.

HTC · Jun 5, 2008

GJSNeptune said:
I wouldn't count on it. Crysis under DX10 isn't much better than under DX9, and the improvements were only certain aspects. It's not a blanketed increase in performance. Might be different for other games, but since Warhead is supposed to come out in the Fall, maybe it'll have a bigger performance gap between the two.

This crysis, yes. We don't know about Warhead, do we?

farlex85 · Jun 5, 2008

I disagree w/ that. I think it is better on dx10, but we've had this discussion before. I too though hope that the game is better optimized for dx10 and less so for dx9. Someone needs to set that standard so we can have some dx10 goodness.

DarkMatter · Jun 5, 2008

farlex85 said:
Well, one more time, it is not normal to kill an entire company and have one guy who saw it all happen stand around exactly as he did the first time he spotted you. I don't care what they did in Predator, Rambo, ect., that is not normal, not human, not realistic. And I guess we must have played different games, b/c not once did an enemy retreat to call some friends, even on my delta runthrough.

Perhaps our different AI experiences are deriving from our different tactical approaches. I frequently cloak and sneak, and prefer to take my time dispatching the baddies in the funnest way I can. They do not handle this well. Perhaps running in guns a blazin inspires different reactions. I did it a couple of times and noticed nothing, but I dunno.

Also, its true, FPS AI is basically just a few set reactions to player stimulus, its nothing really "intelligent." They simply must react in a believable way, and a way that improves their chances of survival. Not many games do it that well. As I remember it, Halo did it exceptionally well, but I may be biased as I remember that experience much more fondly than Crysis. Crysis suffers more from its lack believable AI because the graphics are so incredible. The game looks so good and the enviornment draws you in so well and gives you a realistic perception. When the AI fails to do this, it sticks out like a sore thumb, and does a lot to ruin the overall gameplay for me.

Essientially, there is nothing imo terribly wrong w/ Crysis. The AI and gameplay are not terrible, or even worse than many games. Without the graphics however, it is to me at least a perfectly ordinary first person shooter not worth the acclaim it initially got, and not really worth the time to play it. Its not that bad, its just not that good.

First of all I played the sneaky way too 4 of the 5 times that I have played the game. Everything that I said happened, play again and maybe you will see them.

Second, I guess you have never been in a panic situation as you don't know how people react to it. MOST people react by not reacting at all, even though it sounds stupid, that is what happens. State of shock it is called.

And finally, from what I see you are really biased by the perception you had from the games. You even state that it's the graphical greatness that makes you feel the AI is poor. IMHO that's not a reason to bash a game that plays on the same level as most other games and just happens it stands out in graphical area. I agree that most games lately are lacking many things (better said have not evolved as they should), but that's true for all of them. If Crysis is not worth playing, then we can say the same about any other game. If you say one game is not worth playing say at least which one it is. I always wonder what is the game of election of people who say Crysis' gameplay, story and AI is lacking.

Tell me 3 shoters with better gameplay, story, music, etc. There aren't. Maybe Crysis is lacking, but overall it's still the best shoter and PC game of last year.

GJSNeptune · Jun 5, 2008

HTC said:
This crysis, yes. We don't know about Warhead, do we?

You can't expect an expansion to be much different. Even though it's supposed to come out in probably four or so months, most of the game is already developed. I highly doubt we'll see a huge jump with DX10 over DX9. The sequel, probably. This expansion, probably not.

farlex85 said:
I disagree w/ that. I think it is better on dx10, but we've had this discussion before. I too though hope that the game is better optimized for dx10 and less so for dx9. Someone needs to set that standard so we can have some dx10 goodness.

I said it was better on DX10, but not significantly. Obviously, if you have only Vista and a DX10 video card, it doesn't matter to you. If you have a DX10 video card and dual boot XP and Vista, you might as well play it under Vista.

farlex85 · Jun 5, 2008

DarkMatter said:
First of all I played the sneaky way too 4 of the 5 times that I have played the game. Everything that I said happened, play again and maybe you will see them.

Second, I guess you have never been in a panic situation as you don't know how people react to it. MOST people react by not reacting at all, even though it sounds stupid, that is what happens. State of shock it is called.

And finally, from what I see you are really biased by the perception you had from the games. You even state that it's the graphical greatness that makes you feel the AI is poor. IMHO that's not a reason to bash a game that plays on the same level as most other games and just happens it stands out in graphical area. I agree that most games lately are lacking many things (better said have not evolved as they should), but that's true for all of them. If Crysis is not worth playing, then we can say the same about any other game. If you say one game is not worth playing say at least which one it is. I always wonder what is the game of election of people who say Crysis' gameplay, story and AI is lacking.

Tell me 3 shoters with better gameplay, story, music, etc. There aren't. Maybe Crysis is lacking, but overall it's still the best shoter and PC game of last year.

Bioshock, HL2 (especially ep 2), and any Halo are better than Crysis in every aspect except for enviornment. I also would include other, earlier games. There were a ton of FPS recently, few of which I really enjoyed. Everyone carries bias, it is the nature of opinion. These are not facts, these are opinions. Yet somehow you seem to believe we are debating facts here, and your own bias is simply correct and I have flawed opinions for thinking otherwise. Not the first time. :ohwell:

And no, shock does not look like that. Shock would be either complete paralization or running w/o in terror w/o any logic. Not saying "where are you" into the forest, and again, acting just the same as when they were looking for you before you killed all their friends.

GJSNeptune · Jun 5, 2008

Better to you. Luckily people can think differently.

DarkMatter · Jun 5, 2008

farlex85 said:
Bioshock, HL2 (especially ep 2), and any Halo are better than Crysis in every aspect except for enviornment. I also would include other, earlier games. There were a ton of FPS recently, few of which I really enjoyed. Everyone carries bias, it is the nature of opinion. These are not facts, these are opinions. Yet somehow you seem to believe we are debating facts here, and your own bias is simply correct and I have flawed opinions for thinking otherwise. Not the first time.

Point is you are basing your opinions on AI behaviours that are not correct, me and other members have stated an AI behaviour distinct to yours. You base your arguments in that enemies don't do anything when in fact they DO. That IS a FACT and you can't overlook it.

Bioshock is better on storyline, but not gameplay, AI or physics. They are different and you are no one to tell one is better than the other.

HL2 was great at its time (IMO is the best game ever), but the combat AI was embarrasingly poor. Despte this they still managed to save the gameplay though. Graphics and physics are outdated in comparison.

Halo games (1 and 2 at least) definately aren't better in any aspect as well as previous games. All games have been evolving every aspect slowly and the result is that even if in your memory those old games were better, they aren't. They are way behind indeed.

farlex85 · Jun 5, 2008

DarkMatter said:
Point is you are basing your opinions on AI behaviours that are not correct, me and other members have stated an AI behaviour distinct to yours. You base your arguments in that enemies don't do anything when in fact they DO. That IS a FACT and you can't overlook it.

Bioshock is better on storyline, but not gameplay, AI or physics. They are different and you are no one to tell one is better than the other.

HL2 was great at its time (IMO is the best game ever), but the combat AI was embarrasingly poor. Despte this they still managed to save the gameplay though. Graphics and physics are outdated in comparison.

Halo games (1 and 2 at least) definately aren't better in any aspect as well as previous games. All games have been evolving every aspect slowly and the result is that even if in your memory those old games were better, they aren't. They are way behind indeed.

You actually are just not understanding what I'm saying and have a poor grasp of psychology, you think what you see in Predator is reality. I edited the post above, see that if you want to see my final thoughts on the situation.

I disagree w/ essientially everything you said there, but I don't care enough anymore to attempt to have a real discussion w/ you, its opinion, and you especially seem to believe your own opinions are simply correct and more accurate than others. Perhaps someone else will argue today.

GJSNeptune · Jun 5, 2008

I hope they have another expansion with Prophet's perspective. Maybe a third as a Korean.

And a fourth as an alien.

DarkMatter · Jun 5, 2008

farlex85 said:
You actually are just not understanding what I'm saying and have a poor grasp of psychology, you think what you see in Predator is reality. I edited the post above, see that if you want to see my final thoughts on the situation.

I disagree w/ essientially everything you said there, but I don't care enough anymore to attempt to have a real discussion w/ you, perhaps someone else will argue today.

In the end is a matter on how you express your opinions. Better still how people that didn't like it express it, as Crysis bashing is something really common.

You didn't like Crysis, that's ok. Many didn't. But it's not worse than other games.

I didn't like COD4 or Halo games, since you like them so much. But they are not worse, are different.

The difference here between you and me, is that you don't see me here saying COD 4 or Halo games are subpar. And you won't see me doing that nowhere, and specifically you won't see me bashing COD 4 on a COD4 related thread.

You can't see the difference between telling your opinion and deliberately try to blend the reality. One thing is to say that you don't like Crysis AI, because it acts in a way you don't like. And one completely different is to just say it's subpar because of the same reason. If you can't see the difference in this, well...

On another note you say Predator is not reality, but you seem to forget that neither it is Crysis. Again Crysis is a GAME and it's AI is wonderfully programed to copy the behaviour expected in a situation like the people in Predator and First Blood. You don't like it. That doesn't mean it's not a superb AI. Hope you finally understand.

farlex85 · Jun 5, 2008

DarkMatter said:
In the end is a matter on how you express your opinions. Better still how people that didn't like it express it, as Crysis bashing is something really common.

You didn't like Crysis, that's ok. Many didn't. But it's not worse than other games.

I didn't like COD4 or Halo games, since you like them so much. But they are not worse, are different.

The difference here between you and me, is that you don't see me here saying COD 4 or Halo games are subpar. And you won't see me doing that nowhere, and specifically you won't see me bashing COD 4 on a COD4 related thread.

You can't see the difference between telling your opinion and deliberately try to blend the reality. One thing is to say that you don't like Crysis AI, because it acts in a way you don't like. And one completely different is to just say it's subpar because of the same reason. If you can't see the difference in this, well...

On another note you say Predator is not reality, but you seem to forget that neither it is Crysis. Again Crysis is a GAME and it's AI is wonderfully programed to copy the behaviour expected in a situation like the people in Predator and First Blood. You don't like it. That doesn't mean it's not a superb AI. Hope you finally understand.

Lack of understanding was never a problem.

DarkMatter · Jun 5, 2008

farlex85 said:
Lack of understanding was never a problem.

Must be the language.

I have one specific example:

TBH I played the game in spanish and when they say "where are you" there's clearly fear reflected in their voice. Maybe was not the case in english version and translators simply managed to improve the game with that subtle accent in the voice. I don't know.

You haven't seen Predator, you say. In Predator the soldiers are scared to the point of shit their pants, but they don't run scared anywhere even when mutilated bodies of their friends are acumulating. They are soldiers. They are trained and whenever they hear something they don't move and try to guess where the danger is. If you see any documental of african predators you will see preys acting like that and predators trying to be invisible to the victim. In Predator and Crysis the predator has the ability to actually be invisible and that's the reason they behave in a manner that makes you think they don't react, but they DO.

In comparison in Halo only the garden dwarfds (whatever their name is) retreat in panic and has nothing to do with the situation. All of them will only and always retreat when you kill the boss the belong to.

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