DDR4 memory upgrade

Sitkam · Aug 4, 2023

Hi, I've a question for the memory Pro's. overclockers

I've a c-die memory kit, 3600 cl18 dual rank 18-22-22-22-42-64 optimized and working good. is it worth buying b-die memories according i play football manager 2023 and F1 23 from perfomance point of view? Thanks a lot for your attention.

FoulOnWhite · Aug 4, 2023

Sitkam said:
Hi, I've a question for the memory Pro's. overclockers I've a c-die memory kit, 3600 cl18 dual rank 18-22-22-22-42-64 optimized and working good. is it worth buying b-die memories according i play football manager 2023 and F1 23 from perfomance point of view? Thanks a lot for your attention.

Imo if you can buy a guaranteed B die kit, why not. I run mine at 4000 16.16.16.38

damric · Aug 4, 2023

Sitkam said:
Hi, I've a question for the memory Pro's. overclockers I've a c-die memory kit, 3600 cl18 dual rank 18-22-22-22-42-64 optimized and working good. is it worth buying b-die memories according i play football manager 2023 and F1 23 from perfomance point of view? Thanks a lot for your attention.

You would be better off upgrading something else, like graphics card, CPU, or NVMe storage.

Macro Device · Aug 4, 2023

damric said:
You would be better off upgrading something else, like graphics card, CPU, or NVMe storage.

This.

RAM is definitely not a bottleneck in your system.

FoulOnWhite · Aug 4, 2023

For football manager i'm not sure a CPU or GPU upgrade will be worth it either.

Edit- just looked at football manager 23 requirements and his system far exceeds them. Even for F1 23 it right on the money requirements wise.

bug · Aug 4, 2023

Sitkam said:
Hi, I've a question for the memory Pro's. overclockers I've a c-die memory kit, 3600 cl18 dual rank 18-22-22-22-42-64 optimized and working good. is it worth buying b-die memories according i play football manager 2023 and F1 23 from perfomance point of view? Thanks a lot for your attention.

Generally speaking, upgrading RAM to tighten timings is probably the upgrade that yields the smallest performance increase. We're talking 5% max, but mostly something like 1-2%.

Sitkam · Aug 4, 2023

FoulOnWhite said:
Imo if you can buy a guaranteed B die kit, why not. I run mine at 4000 16.16.16.38

i know that f123 is most gpu intensive but FM23 is more memory and cpu intensive. And those games more gpu intensive what's the advantage in a perfomance point of view we get? a dual rank 32Gb b-die kit 14-14-14-34-2N 3200 costs 162 euros, and a 14-14-14-34 3600 242 euros.

damric said:
You would be better off upgrading something else, like graphics card, CPU, or NVMe storage.

Hum...I see. thanks a lot.

FoulOnWhite · Aug 4, 2023

Sitkam said:
i know that f123 is most gpu intensive but FM23 is more memory and cpu intensive. And those games more gpu intensive what's the advantage in a perfomance point of view we get? Her a dual rank 23Gb b-die kit 14-14-14-34-2N 3200 costs 162 euros, and a 14-14-14-34 3600 242 euros.

Hum...I see. thanks a lot.

This is what i have, a good kit imo for DD4 for the price. and they will do 3600 14.14.14. for less than 242 euro
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...c4-28800c16-3600mhz-dual-chann-my-002-8p.html

Sitkam · Aug 4, 2023

Beginner Micro Device said:
This.

RAM is definitely not a bottleneck in your system.

thank you. I'm trying to get points of view about that

FoulOnWhite said:
This is what i have, a good kit imo for DD4 for the price. and they will do 3600 14.14.14. for less than 242 euro
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...c4-28800c16-3600mhz-dual-chann-my-002-8p.html

oh my god, this kit is for sell at £139.99 (incl. VAT) 'till tomorrow. the seller is from uk....so i'm done. it will be more expensive due the import taxes

FoulOnWhite · Aug 4, 2023

Sitkam said:
thank you. I'm trying to get points of view about that

oh my god, this kit is for sell at £139.99 (incl. VAT) 'till tomorrow. the seller is from uk....so i'm done. it will be more expensive due the import taxes

Shame, where are you?

Sitkam · Aug 4, 2023

bug said:
Generally speaking, upgrading RAM to tighten timings is probably the upgrade that yields the smallest performance increase. We're talking 5% max, but mostly something like 1-2%.

thank you

FoulOnWhite said:
Shame, where are you?

Lisbon, I'm Portuguese.

FoulOnWhite said:
For football manager i'm not sure a CPU or GPU upgrade will be worth it either.

Edit- just looked at football manager 23 requirements and his system far exceeds them. Even for F1 23 it right on the money requirements wise.

i'm already playing it, and it's working good...nowadays

Deleted member 229121 · Aug 4, 2023

Don't sweat missing that deal across the pond.
You'll be much better off putting your money toward a GPU upgrade as stated VS the RAM.

thunderingroar · Aug 4, 2023

Sitkam said:
a dual rank 32Gb b-die kit 14-14-14-34-2N 3200 costs 162 euros, and a 14-14-14-34 3600 242 euros.

Yeah and 64GB DDR5 6000 kits cost 200€

ddr4 Bdie is extremely overpriced in 2023

Sitkam · Aug 4, 2023

Double-Click said:
Don't sweat missing that deal across the pond.
You'll be much better off putting your money toward a GPU upgrade as stated VS the RAM.

unfortunately now I just can't spend money to buy a new gpu. must wai for better days.

thunderingroar said:
Yeah and 64GB DDR5 6000 kits cost 200€

ddr4 Bdie is extremely overpriced in 2023

yes, for sure...anywhere.

thanks a lot to all of you. i wish you all, a nice weekend.

Shrek · Aug 4, 2023

A GPU you can carry across to a future machine, all that RAM not (if the future is DDR5)

Save the money

Sitkam · Aug 4, 2023

Shrek said:
A GPU you can carry across to a future machine, all that RAM not (if the future is DDR5)

Save the money

Yes, I'll do that for sure Shrek. Thank you so much.

Deleted member 232534 · Aug 4, 2023

you need a gpu upgrade to run this game on higher fps,

ram upgrade will give you 1fps gain

chrcoluk · Aug 4, 2023

Sitkam said:
Hi, I've a question for the memory Pro's. overclockers I've a c-die memory kit, 3600 cl18 dual rank 18-22-22-22-42-64 optimized and working good. is it worth buying b-die memories according i play football manager 2023 and F1 23 from perfomance point of view? Thanks a lot for your attention.

You already have a not horrible memory setup, not worth it in my opinion unless you get the B die for way cheaper than it usually costs. o/c isnt assured either, might hit a clock wall or end up with a silicon loser dimm that needs excessive voltages.

Also take into account DDR4 has been replaced on newer platforms so think of how long you will keep your platform for.

maxfly · Aug 5, 2023

Is it worth it? Nah, not really. Is it worth it to you? Maybe? How much longer do you plan on keeping your current rig? And are you into tweaking memory? If you like messing with timings and voltage and you don't see yourself moving onto a new platform anytime soon then sure, swing away!

Sitkam · Aug 5, 2023

M440 said:
you need a gpu upgrade to run this game on higher fps,

ram upgrade will give you 1fps gain

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M440, ok i see the point. it doesn't worth make the memory upgrade at the moment. so i'll save the money and will get a better gpu. just don't know when.

Sitkam · Aug 6, 2023

maxfly said:
Is it worth it? Nah, not really. Is it worth it to you? Maybe? How much longer do you plan on keeping your current rig? And are you into tweaking memory? If you like messing with timings and voltage and you don't see yourself moving onto a new platform anytime soon then sure, swing away!

I guess, maybe, keeping it for 3 years. I'm not quite sure.

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