De-Lidded Ryzen 7 9800X3D Pic Confirms 3D V-cache Die Moved Below the CCD

[kondamin]

How about giving us the benchmarks already if you are going this far.

 

[AusWolf]

How about giving us the benchmarks already if you are going this far.

That's probably still under embargo.

 

[AnotherReader]

I guess that solves the thermal limitations once and for all.

Dunno about Vcore though (which the N5 regular CCDs relied on to max boost clock), still need to find a way to decouple Vcore from cache voltage to enable the same on X3D? 5.2GHz is hardly a huge bump like some sources have been describing.

Adding a new voltage domain for the L3 would increase L3 latency due to the latency penalty for crossing voltage and clock domains. Consider Golden Cove which has much higher latencies for the L3 than the various Zen cores.

 

[igormp]

My point is that there's been a lot of talk about "significantly increased clock speeds", so that might have to happen to enable X3D to eventually catch up to the rest of the lineup. Not currently on 7800X3D.

Intel's new DLVR enables per-Pcore and per-cluster Ecore voltage, as well as separate L3. Who knows if AMD will go the same way.

View attachment 369310

Another annoyinig thing on the current X3D chips with dual CCDs is that it's the same voltage rail for both CCDs, meaning that if both are in use, the non-x3D one ends up with less voltage due to the hard cap of the X3D-CCD, limiting its clocks.

 

[Steevo]

Maybe he should change his name to Der Del!dder. Better than calling yourself "the farmer".

I work in Ag, being a farmer these days is not a low brow job, using machine automation that is also used in the ICBMs, so much technology that is added and can be added to older machines.


Also I used to farm up some great numbers in PVP shooters.

 

[azrael]

I work in Ag, being a farmer these days is not a low brow job, using machine automation that is also used in the ICBMs, so much technology that is added and can be added to older machines.


Also I used to farm up some great numbers in PVP shooters.

I didn't mean my comment in a disrespectful way. It's more a stab at the sometimes poor grasp of the English language by Germans (btw, I am one, by birth ). "Bauer" is the direct translation of "builder". Problem is, a "Bauer" isn't a builder, but a farmer.

Kudos for being in agriculture! You're one of the people putting food on our tables. Also, high-brow jobs are overrated.

 

[Caring1]

Did he do it? Is it his pic?

I checked the source and both his channels but can't see anything, what am I missing..

Anyone can buy his delidder.

Der8auer did delid one, he showed it in his latest video, also his recent iteration of the delidding tool which has not been released yet, that heats the solder, unlike previous delidding tools which were mechanical only.

Run a thumb comparison and let us know the result:
View attachment 369312
View attachment 369313

That's the unreleased version of the delidding tool.

 

[tpuuser256]

There's no pic of any thumb and a 9000 CPU here anyway lol

I wonder how many 1851 heaters he will sell..


Roman have showed on youtube that it works with 7000/8000/9000.

Good to know, thanks