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[lexluthermiester]

im at school right now so i dont have access to the laptop but i do know it has a C2D T7250 @ 2.00 Ghz, 4gb DDR2, and Intel integrated graphics

That's not bad actually. It's possible that system will take an 8000 series mobile C2D, which will boost performance a fair amount and reduce temps.

 

[8bitgamer757]

i found some 9000 series that look socket compatible, will the bios like it?

I also have the latest bios (A17 or 19 if i remember correctly)

 

[Retrorockit]

Here are the builds for that. I see an X9000 CPU running there. Maybe a Throttlestop overclock can happen.
https://www.userbenchmark.com/System/Dell-Latitude-D630/2573
I think this site sells NOS so you should be able th beat the price by quite a bit.
https://starmicroinc.net/search.php?search_query=X9000&section=product
T9300 looks like choice #2.
https://starmicroinc.net/intel-core-2-duo-t9300-2-5ghz-mobile-oem-cpu-slaqg-ff80576gg0606m/
Here's a thread at Notebook Review on upgrading that system.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/great-upgrades-for-dell-latitude-d630.759818/
Here's a thread listing that as being capable of a 1066 fsb pinmod overclock of some sort.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ing-methods-and-examples.393027/#post-4998927

 

[remixedcat]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007H29FR...olid=3U3516Q93DJDN&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
Good upgrade or not for my T3600. E5 2650 @ 2.0Ghz currently.

 

[lexluthermiester]

found some 9000 series that look socket compatible, will the bios like it?

The only 8000/9000 series CPU's that will work for that chipset are theT8300, T9300 and T9500 as that chipset is limited to the 800mhz FSB. The 1066mhz FSB CPU's will not run on that chipset a full speed. Look for one of those on Ebay or elsewhere and you will be good to go.

I also have the latest bios (A17 or 19 if i remember correctly)

The latest is A19. If you have it, cool. If not, might be good to update;
https://downloads.dell.com/FOLDER01530764M/1/D630_A19.exe

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007H29FR...olid=3U3516Q93DJDN&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
Good upgrade or not for my T3600. E5 2650 @ 2.0Ghz currently.

Good CPU, bad price. Try one of these;
https://www.ebay.com/sch/164/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=E5-2670&_sop=15&LH_BIN=1&rt=nc&LH_PrefLoc=1

 

[8bitgamer757]

well i guess i better start saving up for the t9500, and also, would it be worth it to find a mobo with the nvidia graphics?

 

[Retrorockit]

The X9000 is 800fsb and a Core 2 Extreme. Plus there is an example of one running in that system at userbenchmark.com.
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/10659593
Dell never lists the Core2 Extremes even if they will run, and you have to access the overclock through Windows using Throttlestop 6.00.

 

[Susquehannock]

No surprises with the X5690. Nothing unlocked and will not work with RDIMMs in the T3500 board. The CPU did not post at first and thought it was a bad chip. Re-seat in the socket and all is good. Brings me to what someone said about maximum installs. Mechanical stress on the pins? Cannot remember how many with this particular T3500. Ten total? In any case, once the W3680 goes back in it's staying put. Have done enough hardware swaps for a while. May see if I can go above the easy 4.0ghz with some voltage adjustments.

X5687 and X5690 are top dogs in the T5500. Both solid performers. If dual hex core CPU is your goal the X5680 look to be a good deal now. Can get a pair for less than a single X5690.

[edit]

My CPU is X5675 that's supposed to support ECC and max 288GB.

LE: I have made an offer of $35 for the T5500 MoBo and the seller accepted it. Free shipping.

Be aware you may run into a no POST situation with X5675 in that T5500 board depending on BIOS.

Do not think I mentioned this here, but I showed in the ThrottleStop thread (post #213) that the updated BIOS is required to run the X56xx series. Basically I had to boot up with a two QPI 45nm Nehalem (in my case W5590), then download and install the latest BIOS. Only then would it boot up with Westmeres. Intel compatibility page linked in that post.

 

[kalmuk]

Hello there!

Old 2xXeon x5675 T5500 workstation owner here. Bought it used several years ago and it still works like a charm . One thing is really bugging me though. The H1 fan on the motherboard has become really noisy with time and no matter what I do I can't make it silent. Tried greasing it several times, helped a tiny bit for just a little while. I can't find a replacement one anywhere basically (except a refurbished one on ebay for 200$ or so which is ridiculous). Even if it is possible to use another fan model, I'm kinda stuck with this one because it's really thin and the "into" the heatsink and I've put a huge GTX1070 that fits only into a certain PCI-E slot and is exactly above it, only 2-3 mm apart.
Question is can I somehow turn it off and bypass the BIOS error on startup... I've seen that other T5500s even have only heatsinks on the same spot, so I guess it would be running no problem without that fan. It also runs at about 4500 rpm all the time and is basically the only fan that doesn't respond to SpeedFan control at all. I've attached a pic with the fan in question marked

Any help would be much appreciated! Thanks

 

[Retrorockit]

Some old smaller video cards used a squirrel cage fan like that. There might be something compatable there. If it's a 3 wire fan it won't have speed control.

 

[lexluthermiester]

well i guess i better start saving up for the t9500, and also, would it be worth it to find a mobo with the nvidia graphics?

Get the T8300. The performance difference between those three is not that great and not worth the premium price you're going to pay for the T9500. Examples;
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fr...&LH_TitleDesc=0&LH_PrefLoc=1&LH_BIN=1&_sop=15
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fr...&LH_TitleDesc=0&LH_PrefLoc=1&LH_BIN=1&_sop=15

With the T9500 starting at $55 and the T8300 starting at $17, it just not a competition. As for the NVidia option, the choice of NVidia GPT Dell chose for that system wasn't great. The Intel IGP is good in comparison. That NVidia based mobo would come at a price preimium and you'd need the extended heatsink to go with it, which is even more money. If it were me, I'd go with the T8300, put in the SSD you mentioned, get 4GB of RAM for the system and call it good. You'll have a end up with a very decent laptop that will get the job done for most tasks you ask of it.

The H1 fan on the motherboard has become really noisy with time and no matter what I do I can't make it silent.

There are replacements for that fan on Ebay for a very reasonable price.

 

[kalmuk]

Get the T8300. The performance difference between those three is not that great and not worth the premium price you're going to pay for the T9500. Examples;
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fr...&LH_TitleDesc=0&LH_PrefLoc=1&LH_BIN=1&_sop=15
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fr...&LH_TitleDesc=0&LH_PrefLoc=1&LH_BIN=1&_sop=15

With the T9500 starting at $55 and the T8300 starting at $17, it just not a competition. As for the NVidia option, the choice of NVidia GPT Dell chose for that system wasn't great. The Intel IGP is good in comparison. That NVidia based mobo would come at a price preimium and you'd need the extended heatsink to go with it, which is even more money. If it were me, I'd go with the T8300, put in the SSD you mentioned, get 4GB of RAM for the system and call it good. You'll have a end up with a very decent laptop that will get the job done for most tasks you ask of it.


There are replacements for that fan on Ebay for a very reasonable price.

I would be very thankful if you can point to such replacement. I've been looking for a very long time and the only ones I found are some refurbished from Germany that cost about 200$, which seems pretty high , considering I can buy a used workstation for that amount. All the other ones I found were bigger in size than that tiny fan.

Thanks.

 

[Retrorockit]

Unfortunately I take all my small GPUs apart and saw up the heatsinks for use on VRMs in overclocking situations. I didn't keep any of those tiny fans.
Here's a 37mm .1A. GPU fan. Not sure how thin it is. If the screws don't line up just glue it.
https://www.dhgate.com/product/video-card-fannew-geforce-gt610-gt620-df0401012rfmn/401814517.html
These guys have some fansinks in their catalog.
http://www.coolinnovations.com/products/low-profile-fan-sinks/data-sheets/
Shopping by the Dell part# I found this one with no photo for $10 but most people do want way too much for those.
http://www.ubbcentral.com/store/ite...ion-T5500-T7500-Motherboard_142045632335.html

 

[lexluthermiester]

I would be very thankful if you can point to such replacement. I've been looking for a very long time and the only ones I found are some refurbished from Germany that cost about 200$, which seems pretty high , considering I can buy a used workstation for that amount. All the other ones I found were bigger in size than that tiny fan.

Thanks.

Are you talking about motherboards with an NVidia GPU for the Dell D630? If so;
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Dell-L...a-graphics-Intel-NIC-DT785-R874J/113249798206
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Dell-L...aphics-and-Intel-NIC-DT785-R874J/382564878607

@8bitgamer757
Looks like I was wrong about the cost on those mobo's as these are very reasonable prices. Couple one of those with a T8300 and you got a decent upgrade for less than $60.

@kalmuk
If you were referring to the chipset heatsink, here are some examples I think will fit. You'll have to do measurements to be sure;
https://www.ebay.com/itm/40mm-Alumi...tsink-Cooler-Cooling-Fan-Hole-IJ/163381485492
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Square-Cop...-Video-Card-Cooling-Fan-Heatsink/183303999949
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Titan-TTC-CUV1AB-DIY-Heatsink-Fan-Copper-VGA-Cooler/331886381539
That last one looks the most promising.

 

[8bitgamer757]

add around 30-40$ and ill have a 2 new batteries (one for the modular bay) and ill last all day on a single charge

@lexluthermiester I also found a t8300 for 7$ and comes with thermal paste

 

[lexluthermiester]

@lexluthermiester I also found a t8300 for 7$ and comes with thermal paste

Excellent! Buy it. Hopefully it's stateside..

 

[8bitgamer757]

but should i stick with my gma graphics or pay for something that will eventually fail?, also, i already have 4gb of ram, and would it be cheaper to buy a small ssd and find an hdd caddy for the modular bay or get a larger ssd? (i was thinking 32gb ssd + 500gb hdd or a 128gb ssd + extra battery)

 

[thenightsky_0102]

Hi all. I'm new to the forum (I just found this forum when I was looking for stuff relating to Dell Precision workstations since I'm in the market for one).

Anyways, I had a question regarding them: I will be buying one from eBay probably in early December. It'll be replacing my current machine which I've been using for a while now... I'll have $600 to spend and I'm looking to get one which will fit my needs nicely and will run my applications better than what my current machine can do.

I use one particular program which is designed to take advantage of multiple cores + hyperthreading. Obviously my current machine, which has an i5 3340 (4 cores, 4 threads) isn't ideal since it pegs it out at 100% until it finishes processing files and I see on ebay there is a T5500 for sale which is exactly in my price range and should be a good fit:

2 Xeon X5675 processors which would total 12 cores and 24 threads, 72 GB of RAM, and a Quadro 600 1 GB card.

Is this worth $597? It's got free shipping on it. I'm thinking the program I want to use will benefit from this type of machine and will surely be a lot faster than my current setup. On the site for the program it states if you have 16 hyperthreaded cores and 16 GB of RAM it will process files within 2-3 minutes. I'd guess with 12 cores and 72 GB of RAM I'd get roughly the same wait-time. The program is called Hit'n'Mix 3 (their site is down for me at the moment - I informed them of it)

Btw sorry if I should've made a new thread for this question. I just joined.

 

[remixedcat]

Look for a T7610 in that price range. I've seen a system with 2 of the equivalant xeons and 64GB DDR3 ECC RAM for 580. Almost got it but the auction ended and was outbid at the last min.

 

[thenightsky_0102]

Hmm, alright. I'm not too good with hardware (better with software I guess) and I just want the absolute best I can get for the price i mentioned.

I was seeing online that a number of people have had issues with Windows 10 on the 5500 (at least with the 1709 update). Hopefully if I get that machine it won't have any issues running it...

 

[remixedcat]

the one I alsot got off ebay was capable of running 10. also you're better off getting one with an intel NIC or predownloading the broadcom netextrme drivers. server 2012 I don't think had the bcm one. The one I did end up with getting had an intel adapter (LM82579) and the driver was built into windows. easy peasy even PRTG transferred it well with minmal probe/server adjustments.

 

[lexluthermiester]

should i stick with my gma graphics

This is what I'd do.

i already have 4gb of ram

Cool, you're set then.

would it be cheaper to buy a small ssd

You can get a quality 240/250/256GB SSD for $40 on Amazon. I'd go that route personally.

@thenightsky_0102
Welcome to TPU! That system seems like it would be good for that price as long as it's in good shape and includes at least a 2TB HDD. If not keep looking. T5500's can be had for better deals and you can simply transfer all of your existing hardware into it.

 

[thenightsky_0102]

Thanks for the welcome! It comes with a 1 TB drive.

If I downgrade the RAM to 48 GB, I can put a 2 TB drive in. I can also upgrade the Quadro to a 4000 2 GB card. That very well might be my best option. It'd be just under $600 as well. It's a "build your own" type of listing, where you can customize what's in it.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Thanks for the welcome! It comes with a 1 TB drive.

If I downgrade the RAM to 48 GB, I can put a 2 TB drive in. I can also upgrade the Quadro to a 4000 2 GB card. That very well might be my best option. It'd be just under $600 as well. It's a "build your own" type of listing, where you can customize what's in it.

That sounds very decent for a fully working system that has dual 6core Xeons. Very decent indeed. If the seller has a good reputation, I'd take the chance. Although, the T7500's are in the same price range and are far more upgradeable, hard drive wise.

 

[thenightsky_0102]

I'll be doing that, then. I think 72 GB is a bit overkill for me hah. I just wanted to future-proof myself so I don't have to upgrade for a very long time. I think 48 is good enough. Sure beats 8 GB!