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[sepheronx]

System runs relatively cool when I close side of the case. So I don't have temp issues now. But when it does get warm, front fans speed up and vibrate/grind sound. So gotta adjust again but otherwise, you aren't even aware what temps I'm having so don't jump to conclusions so much. I'm idling at around 33C

 

[SoNic67]

Well, I decided that enough is enough, I need to upgrade my T5500:

T7610 with two (2) E5-2630v2@ 2.6Ghz and 24GB RAM for $526

 

[lexluthermiester]

Well, I decided that enough is enough, I need to upgrade my T5500:
T7610 with two (2) E5-2630v2@ 2.6Ghz and 24GB RAM for $526

That's damn decent! What else comes with it?

 

[SoNic67]

A Quadro K2000 and two 500GB HDD (T7610 it has two types of RAID on board, don't know exactly which one). Will see how it plays with my Radeon RX580... and with my own LSI 9750-8i RAID controller.
I am curious if my own DDR3 (48GB) would be ok on this motherboard.
Unfortunately, I just re-activated my Windows 10 license when I replaced the motherboard from T3500 to T5500... and I think I was allowed only to one transfer, being a Windows 7 free upgrade. So I might need another Windows 10 license (listing said it doesn't come with one).
It arrives on Feb 14. Coincidence

https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/sho...r-workstation/spd/precision-t7610-workstation

 

[lexluthermiester]

Unfortunately, I just re-activated my Windows 10 license when I replaced the motherboard from T3500 to T5500... and I think I was allowed only to one transfer, being a Windows 7 free upgrade. So I might need another Windows 10 license (listing said it doesn't come with one).

The upgrade inherits the status and licensing terms of the originating copy of Windows. So if your Windows 7 was a retail copy, it can be transferred an unlimited number of times and thus the upgrade Windows 10 can also be transferred the same way.

 

[SoNic67]

I guess I'll see. This seems to say that I am allowed only one transfer:
https://www.groovypost.com/howto/transfer-windows-10-license-new-pc/
"If you upgraded from a retail copy of Windows 7, Windows 8 or 8.1, the Windows 10 license carries the retail rights from which it was derived – can be transferred. But under Microsoft’s rules, you are only entitled to a one time transfer."
Or that means between Windows 7 and Windows 10? Not between Windows 10 to Windows 10?

 

[lexluthermiester]

But under Microsoft’s rules, you are only entitled to a one time transfer.

That means one time upgrade transfer of license. Put another way, the Windows 7 product key you used in the upgrade process can only be used that one time to perform an upgrade. However, the right to transfer from system to system through upgrades and system replacements still applies, as long as it was a full retail copy. Does that make sense?

 

[SoNic67]

I guess it makes sense. I hope it will be less painful now then when I transferred last time. I had to get chat support involved and they remote connected into Windows for activation.
The Office license transferred fine, just by me being logged in with my MS email account.

 

[SoNic67]

I have my new Dell Precision T7610 up and running. The case had a sticker with a Windows 7 Pro serial... and I used that to activate a new install of Windows 10 (using the USB media prepared previously). Painless install, I preferred that to moving the SSD, since I already had another 1TB SSD laying around. The two LSI controllers were recognized automatically - the LSI SAS2 2308 Mustang (on board) and my own LSI 9750 RAID5 (my 3 drive array). I had to swap the locations of the SAS-SATA cable and add mine to put the default 4-drive bay on the RAID card (left just the SSD boot on the 2308).

It was listed with "24GB" which would imply a triple channel (wrong for the E5-2630 V2, it's either dual or quad)... well inside were 4 sticks of 8GB each, but one of the memory sticks was not set right, after pressing it in, now I have 32GB RAM. The remaining slots look so empty...

I have posted my Cinebench score already: 1518 with stock frequency and cooling.

One negative... the case's lateral door doesn't like my RX580, it can't close, hits the card. Card it's too "tall", in comparation with the professional cards that were supposed to be installed (blower style). The "bar" that was keeping the Quadro cards seated, now interferes with the RX's shroud and possibly even a heat pipe. The Quadro K2000 is "lower" in height, picture shows that.
Hmm, I need to remove that square bar, I see it's just welded in a few points.

 

[Retrorockit]

Yeah it's just welded! This is what I love about working on Dells. Where else in computing do you get to say something like that.

 

[SoNic67]

Or... should I get a blower-type Vega 64 to match my new system? XFX, MSI...

 

[lexluthermiester]

Or... should I get a blower-type Vega 64 to match my new system? XFX, MSI...

Not an NVidia fan? There are plenty of GTX cards that will fit perfectly.

 

[SoNic67]

Price...

 

[lexluthermiester]

Price...

Used market. You can get a great cards for cheap on Ebay.

 

[SoNic67]

Definitely used...
Vega 64 is in $335-350 buy now range.
I can't get close to a decent RTX 2060 on those prices. And they are not normal profile usually, they are tall.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I did find these which should fit properly(judging by your picture);
https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-NVIDI...-Condition-Original-Box-Warranty/113643940488
https://www.ebay.com/itm/PNY-NVIDIA...s-3-0-x16-Graphic-Card-Dual-Fans/143012324903
https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-GeFor...0-KR-8GB-GDDR5-BLOWER-STYLE-CARD/303061680889
https://www.ebay.com/itm/USED-ASUS-...1070-8G-GPU-CARD-ONLY-AS-SHOWN-3/223344080804
Also found a Vega56;
https://www.ebay.com/itm/XFX-RX-VEG...M2-2048-bit-1156MHz-Original-Box/323680906484

 

[SoNic67]

I might wait a little more for the GPU. With side door open.

Meanwhile, I took out some RDIMM from my other board and stick it in this one, to get it working in 4 channel mode. This is the result:
https://valid.x86.fr/hgge83

Does anyone here managed to OC a Dell T7610 platform?

LE: Took a pic of the PLL IC: ICS932SQ420DGLF . SetFSB doesn't have this exact IC, closest seems to be ICS932S401EGLF or ICS932S421BGLF. Well... any of them locks up the PC.
Datasheet: https://www.idt.com/document/dst/932sq420d-datasheet
So... ICS 932SQ420D (GLF refers to the housing type and being tube not reel delivered).

 

[Retrorockit]

It's been reported that the lockup happens even with a supported PLL due to SATA going out of timing. A PCIe drive controller is reported to solve this.
The developer of SetFSB stopped supporting it (adding PLL numbers) shortly after LGA775 ended. Not too much after that.
The T3600,5600 7600 series hasn't been very popular due to the proprietary PSU, and even single CPU machines needing RDIMMs (I think). The learning curve is a little steeper, unlike The T3500 which is basically a locked BIOS X58 system.

 

[SoNic67]

That, IMO, is just a story. Changing the clock in SetFSB doesn't affect the PCIe speeds. Affects just the CPU "FSB" and the memory frequency.
However, I don't have anything on the internal SATA. Boot SSD is on a LSI SAS 2308, RAID5 drives on a more capable LSI 3ware 9750-8i.
Changing just one "tick" and hit apply locks up instantly the PC.

I think is related somehow to proprietary access to SMBus. I can "read" fine those PLL freq, but it seems that I cannot write properly the PLL registers.
Also, the memory SPD (SMBus) cannot be read by any program that I have tried. Same issue maybe?

 

[Retrorockit]

Some chipset/ PLL change the SATA clock with SetFSB and going to a PCIe controller avoids that. A user at OCN with a T7400 and a supported PLL got a SetFSB overclock that way. But if you're already using a PCIe controller something else is going on.
Have you tried RWEverything?
http://rweverything.com/

 

[SoNic67]

Thanks for that link. I have tried but I can't see anything at the clock generator...

 

[Retrorockit]

There is a thing called TME (time management execute) Some PLL have this to lock the frequency from rising. The SATA problem appears a limited increase. The TME is hard limit. If you can get the spec. sheet for your PLL you should be able to see this. The T7400 didn't have this because it supported 400fsb CPUs so couldn't be locked lower than that. It's usually multiplexed with a 33mhz PCI output to thwart electrical spoofing. There is a locking bit set during POST by the BIOS, then the PCI output begins. >7h is locked<7h is open. My programming experience=0. I've only read about this. I believe Setfsb editor can read this and change it in Windows if you can figure out which bit to set.
You can look around in here.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ing-methods-and-examples.393027/#post-4998927
The notebook stuff is mostly Core2 Mobile CPUs on socket 478. So not directly translateable.

 

[SoNic67]

I did found that datasheet, is linked above. Now... Understanding what it means is a different problem

 

[Retrorockit]

There are some FSB utilities that are based on RWEverything with a Windows shell. Might support newer chipsets also. SetFSB is not the only game in town.

 

[Retrorockit]

I did found that datasheet, is linked above. Now... Understanding what it means is a different problem

Can you lower your BCLK? This would indicate whether or not you have a valid connection to your PLL.
The FSB signal to the PLL is the actual frequency number translated to hexadecimal.