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Retrorockit · Jun 13, 2020

HP on the Z400 which is their T3500 they added 2x 12V. wires to the MB 24 wire pinout instead of using an 8 pin CPU connector. Sending 12V. down a 3V. rail probably would not end well. HP went to 18 pin on the Z420 PSU which is the T3600/3610 equivalent. What Dell may or may not have done on the T3610 where PSU compatability was no consideration at all IDK. But Dells consumer Optiplex 3020 went to 8 pin MB connectors ( maybe some 10 pin also). So they definitely don't worry about ATX compatability when they don't feel like it. Optiplex XE2 is another.

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If you want to try it go ahead. But please be sure to let us know how it goes either way. It would be nice if it works.
The reason for my concern is the T3610 24 pin connector is now providing power to all the SATA drives, which previously had their own cables from the PSU. You could probably power those drives the old fashioned way, but how the MB will react IDK. Dell definitely had a "reason" to change things there.

crazydrve` · Jun 14, 2020

Does anyone know the pinot on the dell boards to start them without the front panel?

I think my power supply is fine but believe my board is bad?

Susquehannock · Jun 14, 2020

crazydrve` said:
Does anyone know the pinot on the dell boards to start them without the front panel?

I think my power supply is fine but believe my board is bad?

This Dell page should tell everything you need to know. Pin outs. Part numbers ...

Installing Precision T3500 motherboard into a new chassis? | DELL Technologies

I'm doing up an old T3500 and want to make use of liquid cooling, obviously I will need to buy a new case and transfer the mainboard into it, however the motherboard does not seem to be normal ATX ...

www.dell.com

Quite common for that front board to go bad. Have replicated it myself. Especially if it's an older unit with the brown colored United Chemicon 'KZG' series caps that are known to be failure prone. When getting a new piece be sure it has the blue Rubycons. Goes for motherboards too. Dell was heavily fined for intentionally hiding the bad capacitor issue from customers actually.

crazydrve` · Jun 14, 2020

Susquehannock said:
This Dell page should tell everything you need to know. Pin outs. Part numbers ...

Installing Precision T3500 motherboard into a new chassis? | DELL Technologies

I'm doing up an old T3500 and want to make use of liquid cooling, obviously I will need to buy a new case and transfer the mainboard into it, however the motherboard does not seem to be normal ATX ...

www.dell.com

Quite common for that front board to go bad. Have replicated it myself. Especially if it's an older unit with the brown colored United Chemicon 'KZG' series caps that are known to be failure prone. When getting a new piece be sure it has the blue Rubycons. Goes for motherboards too. Dell was heavily fined for intentionally hiding the bad capacitor issue from customers actually.

I didnt know that thanks, the caps look ok but I do wonder about the power on board.

lexluthermiester · Jun 14, 2020

crazydrve` said:
I think my power supply is fine but believe my board is bad?

Ebay.

OEM Dell M884g Front I/o Panel W/ Cables Jn454 for Precision T3500 T5500 for sale online | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for OEM Dell M884g Front I/o Panel W/ Cables Jn454 for Precision T3500 T5500 at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

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Susquehannock said:
Quite common for that front board to go bad. Have replicated it myself. Especially if it's an older unit with the brown colored United Chemicon 'KZG' series caps that are known to be failure prone. When getting a new piece be sure it has the blue Rubycons. Goes for motherboards too. Dell was heavily fined for intentionally hiding the bad capacitor issue from customers actually.

Or he could just replace the caps. It's not difficult.

crazydrve` · Jun 15, 2020

lexluthermiester said:
Ebay.

OEM Dell M884g Front I/o Panel W/ Cables Jn454 for Precision T3500 T5500 for sale online | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for OEM Dell M884g Front I/o Panel W/ Cables Jn454 for Precision T3500 T5500 at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

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Or he could just replace the caps. It's not difficult.

I ordered another board and power supply and then I will see if I need that Front I/O Panel, thanks for the Link.

crazydrve` · Jun 22, 2020

Hey everyone, I got a new/different board from server worlds and now I get an error.

Although the bios seems the 24gb ram.

Alert memory error detected in DIMM 3, I have swapped all my ram, which was good with other board.

Does this mean the board has an issue or is there something else I should check.

Dell t5500 xeon 5560

Thank you
Bill

ManGupta · Jun 22, 2020

crazydrve` said:
Hey everyone, I got a new/different board from server worlds and now I get an error.

Although the bios seems the 24gb ram.

Alert memory error detected in DIMM 3, I have swapped all my ram, which was good with other board.

Does this mean the board has an issue or is there something else I should check.

Dell t5500 xeon 5560

Thank you
Bill

What happens if you press F1 to continue to boot in OS. Does the OS shows 24 GB or only 16 Gb.
Have you checked cleaning the ram slots and the Ram-sticks or swapping the Ram-sticks across the ram slots.

rGBurninator · Jun 22, 2020

Hello all. I have an off topic question but don't want to be an unwanted intruder.

As I wait for my w3680 , I have been playing with an Inatek 3.0 expansion card. It works for data and my webcam but for some reason I cannot get it to work with my Elgato HD60S. Has anyone here had any luck using a capture card on a t3500 utilizing an expansion card? I have tried all the common solutions and none of them have worked. Any help would be appreciated.

Mazer · Jun 22, 2020

Very interesting thread

I found a t3500 for sale locally with a W3680 and 16gb ram some quadro gpu couple of hdds I'd replace other than that looks pretty solid for $200 but the thing is worrisome is the PSU and hearing about proprietary ones, and it's x58 which means the mobo goes, it's pretty expensive to replace for me would I be able to switch out the PSU in the T3500 with a better one than the stock dell to replace? I am thinking of getting one just need clarification.

lexluthermiester · Jun 22, 2020

crazydrve` said:
Hey everyone, I got a new/different board from server worlds and now I get an error.

Although the bios seems the 24gb ram.

Alert memory error detected in DIMM 3, I have swapped all my ram, which was good with other board.

Does this mean the board has an issue or is there something else I should check.

Dell t5500 xeon 5560

Thank you
Bill

Check the contacts on the bottom of the CPU to be sure they're clean. Also check the CPU socket for bent pins. Remember Socket 1366 CPU have their memory controller on-chip and those connections run through the socket.

Retrorockit · Jun 22, 2020

To answer your question ATX aftermarket PSUs will fit and work. Be sure and check the power on the 5V. rail. Not all of the newer ones still have enough power there.
The Dell PSUs are quality parts. But a little tricky to add more cables than Dell intended. Up to about GTX1070 the stock one should be OK.
T3500 motherboards don't cost as much as aftermarket X58 ones. There is also an overclocking thread that applies to these if that interests you. Aftermarket MB won't fit these anyway. The W3680 is an unlocked multiplier CPU and is the favorite for overclocking these. Page 4 has the settings for these.

Throttlestop overclocking Desktop PCs

Hey everyone, Sorry to intrude in the middle of any conversations that might be going on. No worries at all! I am new to the forum but not this page as I have read literally all 37 pages of this thread to help me with achieving the best performance out of my T3500. Welcome to TPU, and we hope...

www.techpowerup.com

The 16GB RAM configuration is suspect on a 3 channel RAM system. 12GB, or 18GB would make more sense.

rGBurninator · Jun 22, 2020

I have a ThermalTake 700w PSU and it was in my T3500 case until I did a case swap. I do not have any issues as of now with the selection of PSU, it was pretty inexpensive too. I can't wait until I get my W3680, going to be such a difference to have those extra 2 cores and being unlocked. The link Retro posted is VERY helpful, but please read all of the information because if you have a questions they are probably already answered in that thread. I actually just bought a GTX1070 and installed it over the weekend, its a great GPU for the money, now I just need to figure out my capture card problem! haha

Retrorockit · Jun 23, 2020

ATX PSUs will work. It's the rest of it that's proprietary.

bullet308 · Jun 23, 2020

Hi:

Still playing with my T3500 w/ T5500 mobo and T7400 power supply (w/ T5500 harness), and I have run into a bit of a jam. I am trying to get two Zotac GTX 970 cards up and working in SLI. To that end, I have them both installed into the two x16 PCIe slots and a high-bandwidth SLI bridge in place. With the latest drivers installed, both cards are seen by the OS and work fine for Folding@Home work, but the SLI option stubbornly will not appear in the Nvidia Control Panel. Using GPU-Z to look at things, I note that it says that one card is running at x16 and the other at x8. No other PCIe, PCI or PCI-X devices are installed.

Any ideas about how to work around this issue?

TIA

ManGupta · Jun 24, 2020

bullet308 said:
Hi:

Still playing with my T3500 w/ T5500 mobo and T7400 power supply (w/ T5500 harness), and I have run into a bit of a jam. I am trying to get two Zotac GTX 970 cards up and working in SLI. To that end, I have them both installed into the two x16 PCIe slots and a high-bandwidth SLI bridge in place. With the latest drivers installed, both cards are seen by the OS and work fine for Folding@Home work, but the SLI option stubbornly will not appear in the Nvidia Control Panel. Using GPU-Z to look at things, I note that it says that one card is running at x16 and the other at x8. No other PCIe, PCI or PCI-X devices are installed.

Any ideas about how to work around this issue?

TIA

I am not sure if the Dell system supports SLI.

lexluthermiester · Jun 24, 2020

ManGupta said:
I am not sure if the Dell system supports SLI.

It should. the T3500/T5500/T7500 should all support SLI and CrossFire AFAIK.

bullet308 · Jun 24, 2020

Yeah, I had read elsewhere that the T5500 would in fact support SLI, but I couldn't find anything on troubleshooting. Sitting here at work, it occurred to me that perhaps it might be something I can tweak in the BIOS, like the video card selection options...

rGBurninator · Jun 24, 2020

Is it worth an upgrade? I am looking into a gigabyte ga-x58-ud3r v2.0 for my w3680. I can get one on eBay for about 100 bucks. Had anyone had experience with this board?

lexluthermiester · Jun 24, 2020

rGBurninator said:
Is it worth an upgrade? I am looking into a gigabyte ga-x58-ud3r v2.0 for my w3680. I can get one on eBay for about 100 bucks. Had anyone had experience with this board?

Good board, decent price.

ManGupta · Jun 24, 2020

rGBurninator said:
Is it worth an upgrade? I am looking into a gigabyte ga-x58-ud3r v2.0 for my w3680. I can get one on eBay for about 100 bucks. Had anyone had experience with this board?

If you can get Asus or EVGA x58 board in similar price , that would be better.

watch this video at 10:15 ...... there is a comment on Gigabyte X58 MB problem.

rGBurninator · Jun 24, 2020

I was looking at the EVGA X58 SLI3 for about 129 on eBay, it does seem nicer and look better

lexluthermiester · Jun 24, 2020

rGBurninator said:
I was looking at the EVGA X58 SLI3 for about 129 on eBay, it does seem nicer and look better

That one is good too, just pricier. However, that Gigabyte model is a solid board and OC's well.

rGBurninator · Jun 24, 2020

Hmmm, the choices the choices. The guys selling the EVGA has better reviews lol

lexluthermiester · Jun 24, 2020

rGBurninator said:
Hmmm, the choices the choices. The guys selling the EVGA has better reviews lol

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System Name	BTXTREME
Processor	QX6800 SLACP Core2 Extreme
Motherboard	Dell 0WG864 LGA775 BTX
Cooling	Dell T9303 heatpipe cooler, Delta GFB1212VHG 2 motor fan.
Memory	8GB Dell DDR2@800
Video Card(s)	Sapphire Dual BIOS R9-285 ITX O/C 2GB DDR5
Storage	Crucial M500 240GB SSD
Display(s)	Dell 22" LCD
Case	Dell Dimension E 520 MT
Audio Device(s)	onboard sound with Logitech Z523 speakers
Power Supply	EVGA B2 750W semi modular
Mouse	Logitech wireless (two installed)
Keyboard	Logitech wireless backlit
Software	Win7-64, Throttlestop 6.00 overclock
Benchmark Scores	3DMark 11 P7644 (52% )In Win7 64, Firestrike 6892 ( 58% ) http://valid.x86.fr/l2j5p1

System Name	Dell T620
Processor	2x E5-2697 v2
Motherboard	Dell v6 G1CNH
Cooling	Stock
Memory	256GB
Video Card(s)	Onboard currently
Storage	N/A
Display(s)	1 x 27" 4K
Case	Default OEM
Power Supply	2x 1100watt

System Name	Dell T3500
Processor	Xeon X5687
Motherboard	Dell - 9KPNV
Cooling	Dell U016F
Memory	12gb ECC 1333
Video Card(s)	MSI rx480 gaming X
Storage	1tb WD blue
Case	Dell T3500

System Name	Dell T620
Processor	2x E5-2697 v2
Motherboard	Dell v6 G1CNH
Cooling	Stock
Memory	256GB
Video Card(s)	Onboard currently
Storage	N/A
Display(s)	1 x 27" 4K
Case	Default OEM
Power Supply	2x 1100watt

System Name	Dell T620
Processor	2x E5-2697 v2
Motherboard	Dell v6 G1CNH
Cooling	Stock
Memory	256GB
Video Card(s)	Onboard currently
Storage	N/A
Display(s)	1 x 27" 4K
Case	Default OEM
Power Supply	2x 1100watt

System Name	Dell T3500 Terminator
Processor	Intel Xeon W3680 3.3ghz OC'd to 4.3ghz
Motherboard	EVGA X58 SLI3
Cooling	Cooler Master CPU Cooler + 4 Case Fans
Memory	Micron 24gb Non-ECC (4gbX6)
Video Card(s)	Nvidia GTX 1070 8gb
Storage	128gb SSD Boot, 256 SSD (Game), 1TB HDD (video), 1TB External HDD (Whatever)
Display(s)	22" LG IPS, 22" Asus TN
Case	Cooler Master Haf X
Audio Device(s)	Default
Power Supply	ThermalTake 700W Smart
Mouse	Razor Deathadder
Keyboard	Corsair K55 RGB Mechanical
Software	Throttle Stop, MSI Afterburner

Processor	Ryzen 7 5600x @ stock
Motherboard	B550M motar wifi
Cooling	Thermalright assassin 120 se
Memory	DDR4 G.skill 32gb @ 3600mhz
Video Card(s)	6700xt
Storage	2x Crucial MX500 1tb SSDs 1TB SN850x
Display(s)	Acer nitro XV272U 1440p 170hz
Case	Deepcool M370
Power Supply	Corsair RMx 850w

System Name	Dell R710 w/ dual Xeon x5675s and Dell Precision T5500 w/ one Xeon X5670
Processor	See above
Motherboard	OEM
Cooling	OEM
Memory	48GB and 24GB, respectively
Video Card(s)	2x Zotac GTX 970, one per system
Storage	Small SSDs for the OS, and 4x WD Red spinners 2tb each (3x in RAID 5 in the R710)
Display(s)	Motly collecction of older 27-22 inch monitors, four in total
Case	OEM
Audio Device(s)	Generic USB and OEM, respectively
Power Supply	2x OEM 870w hot-swappable, and a 1000w PS looted from an old T7400, respectively
Mouse	OEM Dell
Keyboard	OEM Dell, Ancient IBM buckling spring clicker, respectively
Software	Win 10 Pro/Linux Mint 20 dual boot, both
Benchmark Scores	About what you would expect from the above hardware and software: good enough for what I do

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