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[lexluthermiester]

UPDATE: Hmmm, still no display. It makes 2 beeps and is showing green lights for 3 ,2 ,1 with green power light and stays on from there.

Weird. So it booted with the cap in the other position but wouldn't get into Windows?

 

[MrJunez]

Weird. So it booted with the cap in the other position but wouldn't get into Windows?

Yep, Im not sure what to do. Sometimes when I turn it on it blinks LED 1 one time then the HDD LED , 4 , 3 stays on then just 4,3 loops restarting the computer by itself until it reaches 3,2,1 at the end and stays on Locked in like that. No display on any of the restarts. One stick of 8GB DDr3 1333 REG Ram in, 5680 In, and a Radeon HD 2400 PRO for a video card

Any solutions?

 

[lexluthermiester]

Yep, Im not sure what to do

Make sure that cap is in the correct position.

One stick of 8GB DDr3 1333 REG Ram in

Have you tried a 2GB or 4GB non-registered DIMM?

Based on your descriptions, the LED lights make no sense, so I'm at a loss..

Precision T3500/T5500/T7500 Workstations Diagnostic Lights and Beep Codes | Dell US

 

[Susquehannock]

Is this memory configuration fine? Just got the memory today. Wondering if the slots i put them in are fine.

Lex's question- "Have you checked for any bent pins in the CPU socket?"- got me thinking so took a look at image in post #2,006 above.
That second pin above red dot appears out of alignment. Possibly making contact with pin next to it when clamping pressure is applied.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Lex's question- "Have you checked for any bent pins in the CPU socket?"- got me thinking so took a look at image in post #2,006 above.
That second pin above red dot appears out of alignment. Possibly making contact with pin next to it when clamping pressure is applied.

Good catch!! Yeah I just looked as well. That's a problem.
@MrJunez
Can you get a pair of tweezers all straighten that pin, being very gentle and careful of course? If you can that my solve your problem, or at least part of it..

 

[MrJunez]

Lex's question- "Have you checked for any bent pins in the CPU socket?"- got me thinking so took a look at image in post #2,006 above.
That second pin above red dot appears out of alignment. Possibly making contact with pin next to it when clamping pressure is applied.

Good catch!! Yeah I just looked as well. That's a problem.
@MrJunez
Can you get a pair of tweezers all straighten that pin, being very gentle and careful of course? If you can that my solve your problem, or at least part of it.

I am going to check and take a picture of the whole socket maybe you guys can help me out point out any pins. As for the cap issue and Ram I'm going to try fixing the cap again and also try a 2gb or 4gb ram stick. Sorry I didn't reply yesterday. It was my birthday and didn't want to spend it doing something that will get be upset (if it didn't work)

 

[lexluthermiester]

As for the cap issue and Ram I'm going to try fixing the cap again and also try a 2gb or 4gb ram stick. Sorry I didn't reply yesterday. It was my birthday and didn't want to spend it doing something that will get be upset (if it didn't work)

No worries, but I think it's important to mention that the bent pin in question might be the reason why the system was failing to boot except for that one time. Straighten that pin and it might easier to solve any other issues.

And Happy Birthday!! Hope you had a great day!

 

[MrJunez]

No worries, but I think it's important to mention that the bent pin in question might be the reason why the system was failing to boot except for that one time. Straighten that pin and it might easier to solve any other issues.

And Happy Birthday!! Hope you had a great day!

Thank you for the Bday cheers. it was a good day, turned 23 I took a picture of the whole socket maybe I can get help point out anymore pins

 

[lexluthermiester]

Thank you for the Bday cheers. it was a good day, turned 23 I took a picture of the whole socket maybe I can get help point out anymore pins

From that angle it looks like you might have already fixed it, yes? We're talking about the following pin;

Couldn't see any other pins out of place.

 

[MrJunez]

From that angle it looks like you might have already fixed it, yes? We're talking about the following pin;
View attachment 221579
Couldn't see any other pins out of place.

This is scary to fix. I tried today and no luck. maybe I need to bend the pin more... as for the cap, I can't manage to get the negative pin through so I'm having a tough time. I am thinking about just taking a wire and solder it from both top and bottom to get both connections, sounds janky but it might help if its a cap problem

 

[lexluthermiester]

This is scary to fix. I tried today and no luck. maybe I need to bend the pin more...

There's not need to rush. Just be careful and bend it just a little bit at a time.

I am thinking about just taking a wire and solder it from both top and bottom to get both connections, sounds janky but it might help if its a cap problem

Bodge wires are always a valid solution if they get the job done. It does not have to be pretty as long as it works.

 

[ThaiTaffy]

Hey everyone so I'm not quite a member here but my r210ii arrives in a few days.

I asked the question earlier but didn't really get a answer, I have a months warranty to iron out any issues so I'm wondering how good the dell health check is? I read in the manual it has a hardware diagnosis option built into the bios or something along those lines, how in depth is it?
I will of course run some synthetic loads on it as well as some other checks but I'd like to try find any issues asap as I don't want to waste time setting up a dud unit.

 

[lexluthermiester]

The builtin diags, AFAIK, will test the baseline hardware(motherboard/CPU/RAM) and report any errors. Addin cards, drives and such are only tested by the extended Dell diags which run from the diag partition on a host drive.

 

[Karlos]

Previously had a hp z600, my dad has a dell t7500, brought one myself currently debating whether to upgrade my dual xeon x5670s to x5687's or 5690's, I know the 5687 have less cores but slightly higher performance but im not sure which one would be better for me. I mostly play games so im thinking of the 5687's as they're cheaper and have slightly better performance but would love to hear some input

 

[lexluthermiester]

I know the 5687 have less cores but slightly higher performance but im not sure which one would be better for me.

The loss of 2cores/4threads will not be offset by the extra speed of X5687. Stay with a 6core model. A pair of X5675's would be an excellent balance of performance, price and power/heat, especially for a T7500. However, a pair of X5680's or W3680's would be great choices as well. The X5690's and W3690's are really pricey and not worth the extra expense for all of an extra 133mhz of speed.

And Welcome to TPU!

 

[Susquehannock]

This is scary to fix. I tried today and no luck. maybe I need to bend the pin more... as for the cap, I can't manage to get the negative pin through so I'm having a tough time. I am thinking about just taking a wire and solder it from both top and bottom to get both connections, sounds janky but it might help if its a cap problem

You might try a mechanical pencil or similar. Slide pin into hole on end. Perfect for that one which looked like it needed to be rotated counter-clockwise a bit.

 

[ThaiTaffy]

So the rack sever came today considering the price and the initial frustration of it lacking a Cpu shroud the unit seems ok.

Some dust inside, but I would tend to prefer that than some super clean one that could have been suffocated all its life. Components don't seem bad either, Samsung ram and Seagate Barracuda drives. Initial scan over the system and the board looks in good shape. Will check the PSU caps and power it up if all is well.

Going to take a while it seems.

So it passed everything I threw at it I've installed Ubuntu server and spent the last 4hours relearning terminal, I haven't typed this much in years....

 

[lexluthermiester]

spent the last 4hours relearning terminal, I haven't typed this much in years....

Welcome to the wonderful world of system admins.

 

[ThaiTaffy]

Welcome to the wonderful world of system admins.

Yes wonderful I've spent 10 hours or so on terminal and just barely got SSH working secure via key rather than password and started loading up docker.
I could have loaded a GUI but it feels more foreign to me Unless gnome is especially bad, I seem to understand more via terminal
Anyway bed time now another day of it tomorrow, if I get zoneminder loaded and working with my IP cameras I'll be happy.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Yes wonderful I've spent 10 hours or so on terminal and just barely got SSH working secure via key rather than password and started loading up docker.

Not laughing AT you, just laughing because I've been there..

 

[Karlos]

The loss of 2cores/4threads will not be offset by the extra speed of X5687. Stay with a 6core model. A pair of X5675's would be an excellent balance of performance, price and power/heat, especially for a T7500. However, a pair of X5680's or W3680's would be great choices as well. The X5690's and W3690's are really pricey and not worth the extra expense for all of an extra 133mhz of speed.

And Welcome to TPU!

Are you able to dual run w3690's? is there a massive difference from the w3690's to the x5690s, I know that the "W" chips are unlocked but i'm unsure if that even matters for the t7500.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Are you able to dual run w3690's? is there a massive difference from the w3690's to the x5690s

The W3680/W3690 being unlocked CPU's, means that you can overclock them, even on a Dell, with a utility called ThrottleStop. If that's not important to you, than stick with the X56xx CPU's

Just an FYI, You don't need X5690 or W3690. The extra 133mhz of the 90 versions over the 80 version will not make a difference in overall performance and does not justify the extra cost, unless you can get them for cheap.

 

[Karlos]

The W3680/W3690 being unlocked CPU's, means that you can overclock them, even on a Dell, with a utility called ThrottleStop. If that's not important to you, than stick with the X56xx CPU's

Just an FYI, You don't need X5690 or W3690. The extra 133mhz of the 90 versions over the 80 version will not make a difference in overall performance and does not justify the extra cost, unless you can get them for cheap.

Alright cheers for the info, Ill likely go with the x5690s as they're virtually the same price here in the UK as the x5680s

 

[lexluthermiester]

Alright cheers for the info, Ill likely go with the x5690s as they're virtually the same price here in the UK as the x5680s

Fair enough. On this side of the pond pricing is different. So yeah, no reason not too!

 

[Karlos]

Fair enough. On this side of the pond pricing is different. So yeah, no reason not too!

If only my precious hp z600 could've supported the higher chips, sigh, I'm enjoying this dell t7500 although