dram light turn on sometimes on my motherboard

[khjhpopasa]

I have motherboard b650 auros elite ax + 7600X + DDR5 6400mhz cl32,
I say my memory kit on support list from official website.

I have an issue sometime I turn on my pc after sleep and pc doesn't turn on and see a light on motherbaord, the light is vram.
Why it happened? it happened sometimes after sleep mode but the most time it work.

I did undervolt to my cpu by 35% for all cores (negative) it can be the problem? (when my pc turn on and I check cpu it work well even on 100%)
So what I can be the reason?

Thank for help

 

[khjhpopasa]

Help plz

 

[Toothless]

Run at stock and test.

 

[khjhpopasa]

Run at stock and test.

When my pc run it work well, it happened sometimes

 

[natr0n]

Well sleep loads everything into ram and maybe ram cleared itself thats why you see light being accessed.

Sleep mode can be tricky if you mess with settings in bios.

 

[Shrek]

As suggested above, take off the undervolt.

 

[ir_cow]

I have motherboard b650 auros elite ax + 7600X + DDR5 6400mhz cl32,
I say my memory kit on support list from official website.

I have an issue sometime I turn on my pc after sleep and pc doesn't turn on and see a light on motherbaord, the light is vram.
Why it happened? it happened sometimes after sleep mode but the most time it work.

I did undervolt to my cpu by 35% for all cores (negative) it can be the problem? (when my pc turn on and I check cpu it work well even on 100%)
So what I can be the reason?

Thank for help

Your issue is that 6400 speed unlikely to work or be stable. Probably want to update the BIOS to avoid killing the CPU with SoC auto voltages.

Update the BIOS immediately. Step 2 run memory test software like Memtest5 to check stability.

 

[khjhpopasa]

Your issue is that 6400 speed unlikely to work or be stable. Probably want to update the BIOS to avoid killing the CPU with SoC auto voltages.

Update the BIOS immediately. Step 2 run memory test software like Memtest5 to check stability.

As suggested above, take off the undervolt.

Well sleep loads everything into ram and maybe ram cleared itself thats why you see light being accessed.

Sleep mode can be tricky if you mess with settings in bios.

It happened today a lot so I turnoff memory xmp to off and it work, after that i turn on again xmp and it work well.
(For Now) , I hope it stay like that What do you think about it?

 

[ir_cow]

I think you shouldn't run 6400. Its clearly not stable.

 

[Shrek]

It happened today a lot so I turnoff memory xmp to off and it work, after that i turn on again xmp and it work well.
(For Now) , I hope it stay like that What do you think about it?

If you can tolerate data corruption, have fun; otherwise don't mess.

 

[khjhpopasa]

I think you shouldn't run 6400. Its clearly not stable.

If you can tolerate data corruption, have fun; otherwise don't mess.

it for gamming, why not stable? on motherboard support list I see my ram there (my specific)

 

[ir_cow]

it for gamming, why not stable? on motherboard support list I see my ram there (my specific)

Just because it's on the list, does not guarantee it will work. Sorry but you will not find a different answer. You have two options to get stability back. 1) play around with SoC / VDDIO_Mem voltages in the BIOS or 2) Lower the ram to 6000.

I highly suggested not playing with voltages unless you know whats safe for daily use. That is a hard one. We can at least agree that above 1.3V for SoC is probably not good long term.

 

[khjhpopasa]

Just because it's on the list, does not guarantee it will work. Sorry but you will not find a different answer. You have two options to get stability back. 1) play around with SoC / VDDIO_Mem voltages in the BIOS or 2) Lower the ram to 6000.

I highly suggested not playing with voltages unless you know whats safe for daily use. That is a hard one. We can at least agree that above 1.3V for SoC is probably not good long term.

Buy ram 6400mhz cost me so much and don't want to down it to 6000 only

 

[dgianstefani]

Buy ram 6400mhz cost me so much and don't want to down it to 6000 only

Too bad. 6400 won't work on AM5.

 

[khjhpopasa]

Too bad. 6400 won't work on AM5.

But it work, it fail to laod only after sleep mode You can see here.

 

[ir_cow]

But it work, it fail to laod only after sleep mode You can see here.

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Regardless if it boots to windows. We are TELLING you that it is not stable. Period.

If you do not want to compromise you WILL need to go into the BIOS and raise the SoC and VDDIO_Mem voltages. However by doing so, chances are you will have a dead CPU at some point. Could be next week, next year, but it will happen due to how much voltage is required to get it stable in the first place.

A few other things you can try if you don't want the change the voltages, is that you can set the DRAM ratio to gear two and lower the FCLK to like 1500 MHz and see if that works. But honestly if it is, the performance is worse than just running DDR5-6000 normally.

 

[Dr. Dro]

6400 + AMD = no, you're not doing this especially not on a low cost motherboard like yours, sorry. listen to us and stop trying to force it before you set your CPU on fire.

1. Update BIOS so you can get AGESA to the latest version (specifically to prevent a fire)
2. Run 6000 MT/s *at most*. Higher doesn't work reliably even on high-end AM5 motherboards. Yours is not;
3. If you're so bothered, optimize your subtimings and try to get CAS latency lower... but then again if you were bothered you'd not buy a B650 of all things

BTW, what drove you to build this setup? It's totally weird: you bought the slowest socket AM5 CPU currently available and one of the cheapest motherboards for this socket, but want to push 6400 MT/s memory and run a 7900 XTX. You should have purchased a cheaper memory kit and a 7700X instead. Or even purchased the 7800X3D and a 7900 XT, if you insist on sticking to AMD+AMD, I guarantee your experience would be better in practically every game out there.

As for the reason your DRAM light comes up: you're pushing unstable settings and CPU memory training is failing. I bet you load any memory tester and it's going to spit out errors within a minute.

 

[ir_cow]

@Dr. Dro I'm finishing up the X670 Elite AX right now. Did the memory testing and 6400 kinda, sorta boots with 1.4V on the SoC and 1.3 for the VDDIO_mem. IMC quality comes into play for sure, but I would not use those voltage now knowing the risk of a meltdown.

DDR5-6200 works though at 1.3V SoC, but the VDDIO had to be manually adjusted to become stable in windows. I would agree here that 6000 is the top now before either high voltages or dicking with BIOS auto voltages comes into play.

 

[Dr. Dro]

@Dr. Dro I'm finishing up the X670 Elite AX right now. Did the memory testing and 6400 kinda, sorta boots with 1.4V on the SoC and 1.3 for the VDDIO_mem. IMC quality comes into play for sure, but I would not use those voltage now knowing the risk of a meltdown.

DDR5-6200 works though at 1.3V SoC, but the VDDIO had to be manually adjusted to become stable in windows. I would agree here that 6000 is the top now before either high voltages or dicking with BIOS auto voltages comes into play.

I wouldn't run those volts long term even on high-end cooling... and taking it that far doesn't make it stable? Ouch. The last 200 just isn't worth it if it takes someone who's basically a pro at tweaking the timings to get it even remotely stable. 6000 it is.

I wonder what drives the OP's FOMO though. I guess they're just new to this and have a mentality of "I paid for 6400 and 6400 I shall use", without taking into account their platform's limitations, but then again, those specs seem like nonsense to me.

 

[Udyr]

Maybe OP will understand with a different analogy:

If you can lift X amount of weight without issues and I start adding an incremental percent of that weight every 5 seconds, you'll still be able to keep lifting (you won't collapse immediately), but after some time, the weight will be too much and eventually your muscles will get weak and then collapse. That's what is happening with your RAM: the increased speed is too much weight for your PC muscles (board/CPU) and eventually they collapse, and worst case, they'll completely break.

 

[khjhpopasa]

6400 + AMD = no, you're not doing this especially not on a low cost motherboard like yours, sorry. listen to us and stop trying to force it before you set your CPU on fire.

1. Update BIOS so you can get AGESA to the latest version (specifically to prevent a fire)
2. Run 6000 MT/s *at most*. Higher doesn't work reliably even on high-end AM5 motherboards. Yours is not;
3. If you're so bothered, optimize your subtimings and try to get CAS latency lower... but then again if you were bothered you'd not buy a B650 of all things

BTW, what drove you to build this setup? It's totally weird: you bought the slowest socket AM5 CPU currently available and one of the cheapest motherboards for this socket, but want to push 6400 MT/s memory and run a 7900 XTX. You should have purchased a cheaper memory kit and a 7700X instead. Or even purchased the 7800X3D and a 7900 XT, if you insist on sticking to AMD+AMD, I guarantee your experience would be better in practically every game out there.

As for the reason your DRAM light comes up: you're pushing unstable settings and CPU memory training is failing. I bet you load any memory tester and it's going to spit out errors within a minute.

Regardless if it boots to windows. We are TELLING you that it is not stable. Period.

If you do not want to compromise you WILL need to go into the BIOS and raise the SoC and VDDIO_Mem voltages. However by doing so, chances are you will have a dead CPU at some point. Could be next week, next year, but it will happen due to how much voltage is required to get it stable in the first place.

A few other things you can try if you don't want the change the voltages, is that you can set the DRAM ratio to gear two and lower the FCLK to like 1500 MHz and see if that works. But honestly if it is, the performance is worse than just running DDR5-6000 normally.

I bought that pc 6 months ago, so don't have any 3D CPU, and in my country b650 auros elite ax cost a lot!! so it not cheap at all.
anyway I choose that cpu and ram because I see my memory on the motherboard list support, so why It should be a risk to my cpu? if my motherboard support it?

 

[ir_cow]

anyway I choose that cpu and ram because I see my memory on the motherboard list support, so why It should be a risk to my cpu? if my motherboard support it?

I understand there may be a language barrier here. The risk to the CPU comes from needing high IMC voltage to get it stable (or even booting). That will damage your CPU overtime. The motherboard QVL list is misleading. Not just Gigabyte here, all the vendors do it. All the list means, is someone in a lab validated it to work on that motherboard. This does not indicate voltage needed and its always validated with a ES CPU (engineering sample) that has a excellent IMC. I wish vendors would stop listing speeds that are unlikely to work for daily use and or us normals. Its been this way for years now. Not going to change anytime soon.

I will leave it here. IF you do not change anything, two things will happen. A corrupted OS and a dead CPU. There is evidence high SoC voltage is killing CPUs, I have no doubt you are at 1.35+ already from the motherboards auto settings.

 

[wheresmycar]

I bought that pc 6 months ago, so don't have any 3D CPU, and in my country b650 auros elite ax cost a lot!! so it not cheap at all.
anyway I choose that cpu and ram because I see my memory on the motherboard list support, so why It should be a risk to my cpu? if my motherboard support it?

Trust the advice given above!

I encouraged a friend of mine to jump on the AM5 bandwagon and he picked up a 6400Mhz/32CL Kingston Renegade kit (we thought we got a great deal but far from it). It seemed to work fine until launching games resulted to constant restarts and BF2042 was stuttering like crazy before freezing up and on top sometimes the system wasn't posting after exiting BIOS. Tried a bunch of stuff but nothing worked for him until he dialed down/selected a lower freq preset to 5600Mhz which worked perfectly fine. We were supposed to run higher frequencies or presets and each time stress test, run games, etc.... but he had enough with the first round of tests and settled with 5600Mhz.

Whether its QVL supported or not, 6400Mhz doesn't seem to have been rigorously tested for some of these boards. Or we have to wander what tests were they running to determine seamless compatibility.

More importantly, there are new developments you should be aware of where BIOS settings are causing problems and burning chips up. The guys above are clearly warning you to avoid damaging your system (esp. CPU, mobo and memory). AMD has identified the problem (or some of the problems) and have issued a patch for board manufacturers to provide BIOS updates. Everyone on AM5 is encouraged to commit to these BIOS updates. Set everything on default, update your BIOS and settle with a less problematic memory profile (~6000mhz).

 

[khjhpopasa]

Trust the advice given above!

I encouraged a friend of mine to jump on the AM5 bandwagon and he picked up a 6400Mhz/32CL Kingston Renegade kit (we thought we got a great deal but far from it). It seemed to work fine until launching games resulted to constant restarts and BF2042 was stuttering like crazy before freezing up and on top sometimes the system wasn't posting after exiting BIOS. Tried a bunch of stuff but nothing worked for him until he dialed down/selected a lower freq preset to 5600Mhz which worked perfectly fine. We were supposed to run higher frequencies or presets and each time stress test, run games, etc.... but he had enough with the first round of tests and settled with 5600Mhz.

Whether its QVL supported or not, 6400Mhz doesn't seem to have been rigorously tested for some of these boards. Or we have to wander what tests were they running to determine seamless compatibility.

More importantly, there are new developments you should be aware of where BIOS settings are causing problems and burning chips up. The guys above are clearly warning you to avoid damaging your system (esp. CPU, mobo and memory). AMD has identified the problem (or some of the problems) and have issued a patch for board manufacturers to provide BIOS updates. Everyone on AM5 is encouraged to commit to these BIOS updates. Set everything on default, update your BIOS and settle with a less problematic memory profile (~6000mhz).

ok, so how I should to know it before buy? if memory on support list

edit: and if i was but that motherbaord instead?

GIGABYTE B650E AORUS MASTER AM5 AMD B650 DDR5​

my memory kit is KF564C32RS-16*2 and on the list b650 aorus elite ax

 

[ir_cow]

Gigabyte 100% supports that memory kit because it is validated by them and on the QVL list. However, AMD does not.

Anything above DDR5-5200 for Ryzen 7000 series is considered a user overclock and not supported by AMD.

Max Memory Speed: 2x1R DDR5-5200

https://www.amd.com/en/product/12166