[EOL] Arctic MX-5 is here!!Tests incoming! Completed. Now its MX-6 testing time!

[doyll]

"Thermalright is bascially noctua with no marketing dept" really sums it up quite well. Maybe add "and support dept." While they do give decent support it can be time consuming. I have wondered if it was a cultural thing but don't know.

Indeed, Thermalright was started in 2001 while Noctua was established in 2005.
I found NH-D14 to perform same as original Silver Arrow. NH-D15 is a couple degrees cooler but also has higher speed / higher rate of airflow. Comparison testing of NH-D14 and NH-D15 with same fans showed NH-D14 to perform same to 2c better than NH-D15.

 

[freeagent]

I just did a budget build with a peerless assassin 120 for $40 and the included stock thermal right paste (TF8 or 9)... thing was keeping a HOT 10850K easily under 80C in Cinebench- the guy i built it for is happy as a clam. Was really worried about the heat of that chip, but no issue.

I am using one on my X3D, pretty decent... not quite as good as FC140, but I have a mount coming for that, since I broke mine with my He-Man strength

For the price though, you absolutely cannot go wrong! I tried it with my 5900X too at full limits, not bad, still kept it under 90

Edit:

That is with the stock ARGB fans, I haven't tried anything stronger yet

 

[jayjr1105]

Hmm, order 8g and be here tomorrow or 4g and be here next Wed.

 

[lexluthermiester]

My test rig is an i7 8086k with Thermalright peerless assassin 120se

Ah ok, That should work.

I can clock the 8086k to whatever is needed.

Let's do a fair OC. I'll do runs at 4ghz, the best I can get fully stable for that system and you do the same.

I generally only run aida64 mostly because I've grown incredibly lazy in my old age but I'm open to whatever is agreed upon.

Let do testing everyone can freely do themselves. AIDA64 is good but it's also a paid app and I like to do testing everyone can easily and free replicate with their own systems. That one of the reasons I use Prime95.

@lexluthermiester and @maxfly maybe try Cinebench? It seems to be accepted as the "worst-case real-world" situation for temps.

That sounds good.

@maxfly
I'm down with Cinebench. Say R15 Extreme?

Cinebench R15 Extreme Edition Download

Download Cinebench R15 Extreme Edition - This is a modded version of CB15 with a quadrupled workload....

www.guru3d.com

 

[mechtech]

pump out for one... I hate having to repaste my gpu / cpu every few months because the temps start to creep. Maybe a 1-2 week temp comparison after initial pasting.

I haven’t repasted mine ever. Going on 6 years now. Probably old mx2 in there if I had to guess.

 

[maxfly]

Ah ok, That should work.

Let's do a fair OC. I'll do runs at 4ghz, the best I can get fully stable for that system and you do the same.

Let do testing everyone can freely do themselves. AIDA64 is good but it's also a paid app and I like to do testing everyone can easily and free replicate with their own systems. That one of the reasons I use Prime95.


That sounds good.

@maxfly
I'm down with Cinebench. Say R15 Extreme?

Cinebench R15 Extreme Edition Download

Download Cinebench R15 Extreme Edition - This is a modded version of CB15 with a quadrupled workload....

www.guru3d.com

Sounds good, I will try to get everything set up so all I have to do is start testing once I get home next weekend.

 

[phanbuey]

I haven’t repasted mine ever. Going on 6 years now. Probably old mx2 in there if I had to guess.

MX2 didn't pump out. It's more the modern pastes that do... They perform AWESOME for afew weeks and then degrade. Ceramique, MX2 AS5 etc. none of that stuff ever pumped out on me.

 

[Space Lynx]

MX2 didn't pump out. It's more the modern pastes that do... They perform AWESOME for afew weeks and then degrade. Ceramique, MX2 AS5 etc. none of that stuff ever pumped out on me.

so why don't you go back to AS5 or MX2, they still make both to my knowledge.

 

[phanbuey]

so why don't you go back to AS5 or MX2, they still make both to my knowledge.

That would make way too much sense. I WANT THE NEW STUFF.

 

[Space Lynx]

That would make way too much sense. I WANT THE NEW STUFF.

I know your pain. I have no need for MX-6, at all, its more just part of the fun of the hobby. lol

 

[freeagent]

AS5 is ok, it needs to be able to conduct heat a little better with these newer chips. I found it lost its grip on my 5900X at about 200w or so. Outside of that it is hella stable after it cures and it lasts forever NTH1 was my first experience with pumpout.

 

[mechtech]

Get cpu and cooler surfaced ground to machinist gauge block tolerance. Don’t need paste then.

 

[80-watt Hamster]

I usually use an X on the CPU and a spread on the gpu die just to make sure i get everything covered. I've had good luck with tfx but other pastes not as much - even MX-5 pumped out on the 3080 after about 2 months.

GPU's are tricky because fluid compounds can't grab onto the highly polished surface of a bare die, hence why the OEM compound is that usually-pink (IME) semi-solid patch.

 

[nomdeplume]

I know your pain. I have no need for MX-6, at all, its more just part of the fun of the hobby. lol

I should openly apologize to our test coordinator for making the first comment on front page article.

Teal would be so interesting though. I was absolutely wondering what color it was and if it had sparkles. AS5 has ugly dull grey sheen and texture of something freshly escaped from the backside of a pigeon.

 

[Space Lynx]

@phanbuey I went on ahead and bought the LGA1700 Contact Frame, the MX-6 paste will be spread perfect now and I won't have to worry if I need it or not. $12, not end of world. I still find it annoying we have to buy this to save 5 celsius/fix Intel's problem, Intel should have stepped up and offered their own variant of the contact frame very cheaply like $5 shipped. Cause at end of day, this was their mistake, not the consumer.

Regardless, its done now, so eh. It is what it is. I read lots of reviews on the contact frame, and I think it will benefit me. I'm still trying to decide if I want to get a 280mm AIO for the top of my case, or just stick with my budget cooler the V5... I'm not overclocking, and most likely will even be doing a very small undervolt. So, I think the V5 will be fine since all I am doing is gaming. We'll see. If I see 80 celsius when gaming, I am going to invest in a 280mm AIO I think. I want to see 72-74 celsius max when gaming. I know it doesn't matter. It's more of a personal thing, I like my rig to not run super hot.

 

[phanbuey]

@phanbuey I went on ahead and bought the LGA1700 Contact Frame, the MX-6 paste will be spread perfect now and I won't have to worry if I need it or not. $12, not end of world. I still find it annoying we have to buy this to save 5 celsius/fix Intel's problem, Intel should have stepped up and offered their own variant of the contact frame very cheaply like $5 shipped. Cause at end of day, this was their mistake, not the consumer.

Regardless, its done now, so eh. It is what it is. I read lots of reviews on the contact frame, and I think it will benefit me. I'm still trying to decide if I want to get a 280mm AIO for the top of my case, or just stick with my budget cooler the V5... I'm not overclocking, and most likely will even be doing a very small undervolt. So, I think the V5 will be fine since all I am doing is gaming. We'll see. If I see 80 celsius when gaming, I am going to invest in a 280mm AIO I think. I want to see 72-74 celsius max when gaming. I know it doesn't matter. It's more of a personal thing, I like my rig to not run super hot.

If you do go for the 280MM aio, I highly recommend the x63 with the liquid temp sensor and use argus monitor to control fans and pump based on coolant temp. I uninstalled the nzxt bloatware even - just this one proggy is amazing.

It's a life changer. System runs so much cooler and quieter now, and the fans slowly spin up when appropriate to keep my liquid below 37C so during a gaming session when the water is getting warm they're just cruising at 1300RPM keeping everything cool - during desktop use they usually sit below 750, and no ramping up with random load spikes. Lazy man's loop with coolant sensor.

Peak Cinebench even went down 5C after gaming just because the liquid temp is so much better controlled this way.

 

[Space Lynx]

If you do go for the 280MM aio, I highly recommend the x63 with the liquid temp sensor and use argus monitor to control fans and pump based on coolant temp. I uninstalled the nzxt bloatware even - just this one proggy is amazing.

It's a life changer. System runs so much cooler and quieter now, and the fans slowly spin up when appropriate to keep my liquid below 37C so during a gaming session when the water is getting warm they're just cruising at 1300RPM keeping everything cool - during desktop use they usually sit below 750, and no ramping up with random load spikes. Lazy man's loop with coolant sensor.

Peak Cinebench even went down 5C after gaming just because the liquid temp is so much better controlled this way.

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Funny you mentioned the X63, I saw it on sale two days ago for $132, the 280mm variant. It will fit the top of my case, almost nabbed it. I may do it. That sounds pretty cool. I like that it has a dark purple glow infinity mirror too... will go beautifully with my white case and silver mobo... hence the Paladin system name under my system specs.

 

[Mussels]

I haven’t repasted mine ever. Going on 6 years now. Probably old mx2 in there if I had to guess.

To be fair, first gen ryzen didnt have the crazy heat issues that came later
2nd gen had that dumb +10c/+20c offset that made them report higher than they really were, for whatever goddamn reason

What's that argus monitor, a third party fan control software, or hardware specific thingy?

 

[Pictus]

to avoid all that nonsense you can just use liquid metal, its a superior thing if you know how to use it. 1 year on a rx 580, still same temps as day 1

Not everyone can use liquid metal, some GPUs have non-nickel plated copper parts and aluminum.

The liquid metal will react to the copper and corrode the aluminum.

 

[Mussels]

Liquid metal also melted two pins off my 2700x (The one i repaired by using SATA wire as new pins)

While it's fantastic, it's also dangerous and therefore simply not worth it on hardware you aren't willing to lose

 

[Space Lynx]

Liquid metal also melted two pins off my 2700x (The one i repaired by using SATA wire as new pins)

While it's fantastic, it's also dangerous and therefore simply not worth it on hardware you aren't willing to lose

Yeah, I would never use Liquid Metal, just isn't worth the risk. I almost ruined my laptop trying it once a few years ago. lol

Not ever going to do it again.

Noctua has this for AM5 socket, not sure if LM might be easier to do on this or not, my guess is not, as that stuff can sneak into those little crevices still.

 

[Mussels]

LM is on my GTX1080 and inside my laptop trouble free
It's damaged two CPU's (same motherboard - some leaked inside a socket pin and I didnt know at the time) and been safe everywhere else i've used it


IMO it's best for delidded CPU's where its contained, or on hardware you can replace if it goes bad

 

[Space Lynx]

LM is on my GTX1080 and inside my laptop trouble free
It's damaged two CPU's (same motherboard - some leaked inside a socket pin and I didnt know at the time) and been safe everywhere else i've used it


IMO it's best for delidded CPU's where its contained, or on hardware you can replace if it goes bad

The problem is accounting for all the variables when you do LM, like when I did LM I didn't realize it would literally squirt out of the dispenser for it... I thought it was going to be more precise than that... and it literally shot like 5 inches from where it was supposed to go lol, and getting it off the mobo was a nightmare.

I could probably put it on my laptop now fine, but eh, im done with laptops and high temps so i don't care anymore. this is my last build for a solid 5-10 years. time to just chill and game.

I do like that thermal grease cover Noctua developed though, if I had an AM5 socket I would def invest in that. just to make life easier.

 

[mechtech]

To be fair, first gen ryzen didnt have the crazy heat issues that came later
2nd gen had that dumb +10c/+20c offset that made them report higher than they really were, for whatever goddamn reason

What's that argus monitor, a third party fan control software, or hardware specific thingy?

hmmmm

So if I go to a 5600 cpu what paste would last me at least 6 years then?

 

[P4-630]

hmmmm

So if I go to a 5600 cpu what paste would last me at least 6 years then?

The regular Kryonaut I used from 2018 till 2022 (upgrades).

I'd buy Kryonaut Extreme pink bubblegum (long term durability)

Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme Thermal Paste

Kryonaut Extreme is a high-performance Thermal Paste with optimized low-temperature load capacity for extreme overclocking.

www.thermal-grizzly.com

If you don't care much about a posssible few degrees higher running CPU you could still use Arctic Silver 5, it's really long lasting stuff, used it on my dads PC back in 2010, still runs today, now almost 2023.....