Getting Radeon RX Vega?

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Need more reviews first with updates drivers and Overclocking

For what? We already know what turbo mode does to power draw.

 

[ChosenName]

Managed to secure a Sapphire RX Vega 64 reference model for £449 yesterday - it'll replace my RX 480.

 

[Durvelle27]

For what? We already know what turbo mode does to power draw.

Who cares about power draw

 

[Vya Domus]

Who cares about power draw

Apparently everyone, suddenly.

 

[EarthDog]

Suddenly..lol. Everyone cared since the gtx 480... or 2900xt... or....ryzen...or.....

Its just another variable...dont infer it started now...

 

[Vya Domus]

Everyone cared

Really they don't in reality , they just make it look like they do from time to time.

People bought GTX 480s like crazy , did they really care about power consumption ? Did the people that bought the 290X care ? How about the RX 480 that was supposed to blow up your motherboard and stuff. Do you care about the 7900X that you use that it draws almost as much power as Vega ?

Let's face it , it's neat little argument people use to call out on things they don't like. I am yet to meet someone that goes like : "Oh man that 500$+ GPU sure draws a lot of power , better stay away from it. I am also friendly to the environment and oh boy I sure don't want to pay 5 extra bucks each month !"

Only viable argument I can see that the high power consumption is bad , is that you may have to upgrade your PSU because of it. But even then , come on , you get sappy for a new PSU when you're paying 500$+ for a GPU anyway?

 

[EarthDog]

Psu, heat to displace, noise in doing so... all viable arguments for using less power.

Point is, people care. They cared for a while. This isnt because of amd's gpus and trying to find a fault with them. That said, not all care. But lets not think in a vacuum here.

 

[krusha03]

Managed to secure a Sapphire RX Vega 64 reference model for £449 yesterday - it'll replace my RX 480.

wow... really? where?

Edit: Nevermind, just found it was on OCUK and all is sold out and at £550 now

 

[Liviu Cojocaru]

Poor,poor Vega ... apparently Nvidia has no intention to rush Volta anymore (it will probably be out in Spring 2018). I'll keep my humble 1080 for now

 

[bug]

Who cares about power draw

Even if you don't care about 100W more, it still speaks volumes about the overclocking headroom. Not to mention turbo mode on these throws TDP through the roof while barely improving performance. But hey, what do I know?

Apparently everyone, suddenly.

Why suddenly? Nvidia has been bashed before for drawing too much current, AMD's bulldozer has, P4 before that. I don't see anything sudden about it.

 

[Bjorn_Of_Iceland]

Suddenly..lol. Everyone cared since the gtx 480... or 2900xt... or....ryzen...or.....

Its just another variable...dont infer it started now...

GTX480 sucked in power but it was fastest single GPU during its release.

The thing here is that GTX1080 and Vega 64 dances around the same pricepoint, with GTX1080 even stretching out performance through its massive overclocking headroom. If Vega 64 was priced $100 cheaper, it would be a tempting deal.

Bang for the buck stretches out more than just the actual hardware itself. Bang for the buck in electrical consumption, software support, driver developers, and the actual company doing actual campaigns with game devs to make the most of their hardware.

 

[EarthDog]

I get that Bjorn...and you are correct. However that isn't really the point.

I was simply picking on Vya's assertion this 'just started' and inferred it was 'a matter of convenience (for Vega)'. It's been a talking point, be it legit or a matter of convenience for every card/CPU that could be considered power hungry. This isn't remotely "sudden"

 

[Vya Domus]

Going through the comments on here and form other threads it becomes obvious that the people that care so much about power consumption and people that are very critical of RX Vega ( and that probably aren't even thinking about buying a new card anyway ) are one and the same.

I said "suddenly" in an ironic fashion because really everyone that is complaining about it keeps on beating on a dead horse in an attempt to find flaws just for the sake of doing so. They are here just for the "show".

We aren't blind and everyone has enough brain power to see that in a graph RX Vega's bar is very big , you don't have to repeat yourself several times and make a big deal out of it. We get it , you don't like it fair enough. 290X had pretty much the same power draw and guess what even today I see plenty of them around , I am so sure power consumption was a big factor for those people that picked them up.

Point is at the end of the day people that are actually interested in picking up an expensive card like RX Vega , couldn't care less about most of these things. The overwhelming majority of people look at just 2 things : price and performance.

 

[ASOT]

1080ti and 1060 to much power amd gpu's

 

[bug]

Going through the comments on here and form other threads it becomes obvious that the people that care so much about power consumption and people that are very critical of RX Vega ( and that probably aren't even thinking about buying a new card anyway ) are one and the same.

I said "suddenly" in an ironic fashion because really everyone that is complaining about it keeps on beating on a dead horse in an attempt to find flaws just for the sake of doing so. They are here just for the "show".

We aren't blind and everyone has enough brain power to see that in a graph RX Vega's bar is very big , you don't have to repeat yourself several times and make a big deal out of it. We get it , you don't like it fair enough. 290X had pretty much the same power draw and guess what even today I see plenty of them around , I am so sure power consumption was a big factor for those people that picked them up.

Point is at the end of the day people that are actually interested in picking up an expensive card like RX Vega , couldn't care less about most of these things. The overwhelming majority of people look at just 2 things : price and performance.

So go buy (and Crossfire) your Vega, nobody's stopping you. But TDP is what makes the difference between Vega64 and GTX1080, what would you like people to talk about if not TDP?
Another differentiator is open source support. While not mainlined yet (which requires a bit of tinkering on your side), this is AMD's first card that has better performance when run on open source drivers. Granted, AMD's Linux drivers have been known to suck, but things are slowly turning around.
Other than these two aspects, I don't know what else is to talk about Vega.

 

[EarthDog]

Going through the comments on here and form other threads it becomes obvious that the people that care so much about power consumption and people that are very critical of RX Vega ( and that probably aren't even thinking about buying a new card anyway ) are one and the same.

I said "suddenly" in an ironic fashion because really everyone that is complaining about it keeps on beating on a dead horse in an attempt to find flaws just for the sake of doing so. They are here just for the "show".

We aren't blind and everyone has enough brain power to see that in a graph RX Vega's bar is very big , you don't have to repeat yourself several times and make a big deal out of it. We get it , you don't like it fair enough. 290X had pretty much the same power draw and guess what even today I see plenty of them around , I am so sure power consumption was a big factor for those people that picked them up.

Point is at the end of the day people that are actually interested in picking up an expensive card like RX Vega , couldn't care less about most of these things. The overwhelming majority of people look at just 2 things : price and performance.

And when those are similar... what other variables are there? Power use is certainly one of them, no? If I had a choice between two similarly performing cards similarly priced and one used 25% less power..........

Some don't care, indeed. Some do. I can see why its a dead horse considering the pricing and performance similarities between the two cards since its another major variable. Are people finding flaws for the sake of doing so, or is it just next up on the list of considerations? Come on now...

 

[ERazer]

nobody would care about TDP if its fastest GPU (like the 480) but vega 64 aint

 

[Vya Domus]

And when those are similar... what other variables are there? Power use is certainly one of them, no? If I had a choice between two similarly performing cards similarly priced and one used 25% less power..........

Some don't care, indeed. Some do. I can see why its a dead horse considering the pricing and performance similarities between the two cards since its another major variable. Are people finding flaws for the sake of doing so, or is it just next up on the list of considerations? Come on now...

I am not disagreeing with anything you say. I am just saying it's blown way out of proportion since it is the only eye-popping thing people can find and complain about. And that's kind of ridiculous. Like I said no one is blind we all see the TDP ratings it has become very uninteresting at this point.

 

[EarthDog]

Its real for some people... even if it's saving a few dollars a month (mining/folding - that number goes way down gaming a couple hours /day), or saving a few db trying to mitigate the heat. Since it's really the only difference, I can see why it's being made into more since everything else can be considered a wash. Are some blowing it out of proportion... yeah, word choice is abysmal from some... goes back to what we were talking about some of the people on forums.

Cheers.

 

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I am not disagreeing with anything you say. I am just saying it's blown way out of proportion since it is the only eye-popping thing people can find and complain about. And that's kind of ridiculous. Like I said no one is blind we all see the TDP ratings it has become very uninteresting at this point.

It has only become uninteresting for those who regularly post here and praise AMD. You do the math.

 

[Vya Domus]

It has only become uninteresting for those who regularly post here and praise AMD. You do the math.

Right...well , let's all hold hands and say it once more , for the 100th time : Vega uses a lot of power ! Oh boy , fascinating as ever !

And if you're alluding that I am praising RX Vega , I am not , do the math again.

It's really , really ,uninteresting.

 

[Melvis]

Nope I'm happy with my gtx 970 and I'll just add another one later this yr.

 

[_JP_]

I want to get one just so I can pretend I'm a hipster and know what early-90's computers and Web 1.0 was like, so I'm going to scrape the RADEON logo and stamp a big "ATi MACH" on the side.

 

[Figus]

I'm still happy with my Fury Tri-X on a 1440p display, and i did not even unlock it to Fury-X even if it seems one of the lucky card...

 

[Kaleid]

Sticking with Polaris (480 8GB). The efficiency is not there with Vega and I don't even really need a faster card now.