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Well, Thunderbolt has nothing to do with USB-C for starters, that was Intel appropriating the same connector and it's on them.
As for the other features, it's not entirely straight forward for sure, but it's even worse on phones, where most phones only support USB 2.0 speeds.
The issue once again comes down to cost though, how much are people willing to pay for the extra features?
What sucks is that both AMD and Nvidia dropped USB-C connectors from their cards, which lead to the OEMs doing it as well, so from two generations ago, we've gone backwards and lost connectivity.
Notebooks seem to be somewhat better when it comes to USB-C at least, but still not great.
I guess we're going to have to wait for USB4 to gain some ground until all the features you want are commonplace, but even so, it'll only be on a port or two, due to cost and the amount of bandwidth required from the host system side.

As you can see, on higher end boards, things like DP support is clearly labelled.

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Agreed, with a couple of observations.
1. Thunderbolt may be independent of USB-C, but reusing the connector instead of inventing a new one seems like a good move.
2. Do you honestly think that "clearly labeled" helps? Most of the time that port is close to the floor, facing the wall, good luck reading that label

What I think it would be acceptable it would be at one USB-C port at the front of the case that supports everything that USB-C does (perhaps not Thunderbolt), one port at the back supporting everything and at least a couple more USB-C port at the back supporting USB 3.2 2x2 transfer speeds. I, for one, would pay more for that if that saves me from managing adapters and USB-C to USB-A cables.

Also, yeah, USB 2.0 on phones hurts big time. It's faster to upload your files to the cloud and download them from there to your PC than it is to transfer them via USB

 

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Agreed, with a couple of observations.
1. Thunderbolt may be independent of USB-C, but reusing the connector instead of inventing a new one seems like a good move.

So why complain about it?

2. Do you honestly think that "clearly labeled" helps? Most of the time that port is close to the floor, facing the wall, good luck reading that label

Well, put your PC on your desk, or label your cables...

What I think it would be acceptable it would be at one USB-C port at the front of the case that supports everything that USB-C does (perhaps not Thunderbolt), one port at the back supporting everything and at least a couple more USB-C port at the back supporting USB 3.2 2x2 transfer speeds. I, for one, would pay more for that if that saves me from managing adapters and USB-C to USB-A cables.

Problem with case connectors is that you've already lost 30 cm of cable length, so if you plan on plugging things in here with a cable, you might get slower than expected data speeds, as the host controller will decided that the cable is too long and throttle you back to 5 Gbps speeds.

Also, define everything. I doubt any single USB-C port out there supports "everything" since USB-C has some rather weird modes that haven't been widely implemented, such as that VR thingie that some graphics cards had and the analogue audio mode for example. Intel's Thunderbolt chips don't support USB speeds faster than 10 Gbps btw.

Also, yeah, USB 2.0 on phones hurts big time. It's faster to upload your files to the cloud and download them from there to your PC than it is to transfer them via USB

The amazing thing here is that the phone SoC often supports USB 3.0 or even faster speeds, but the device makers don't bother adding the extra 50 cents of hardware to make it work.

 

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So why complain about it?

Not complaining about it, just wishing we'd see it actually implemented. Even if on the high-end and maybe a couple of more expensive mid-range mobos.

Well, put your PC on your desk, or label your cables...

Not an option, with a couple of monitors already there.

Problem with case connectors is that you've already lost 30 cm of cable length, so if you plan on plugging things in here with a cable, you might get slower than expected data speeds, as the host controller will decided that the cable is too long and throttle you back to 5 Gbps speeds.

If PD still works, I'm good. It's so convenient having a handy port that you can plug your phone into...

Also, define everything. I doubt any single USB-C port out there supports "everything" since USB-C has some rather weird modes that haven't been widely implemented, such as that VR thingie that some graphics cards had and the analogue audio mode for example. Intel's Thunderbolt chips don't support USB speeds faster than 10 Gbps btw.

Good point, I didn't mean the exotic stuff. I meant full speed USB, Thunderbolt and USB-PD.

The amazing thing here is that the phone SoC often supports USB 3.0 or even faster speeds, but the device makers don't bother adding the extra 50 cents of hardware to make it work.

I have a hunch this has to do with pushing users towards storing their stuff in the cloud. Or it's just me being paranoid. Either way, really, really petty when you charge $500+ for the phone.

 

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Not an option, with a couple of monitors already there.

You can still label the cables, no?

If PD still works, I'm good. It's so convenient having a handy port that you can plug your phone into...

Very few boards have front PD support so far.

Good point, I didn't mean the exotic stuff. I meant full speed USB, Thunderbolt and USB-PD.

You mean PCIe data tunneling over USB4? Forget about Thunderbolt, Intel has too many restrictions there.
Again, the cable length limit is very strict. The only way that this might work on a front case connector is if a redriver/retimer is added right next to the case connector. Maybe in the future, but right now, no-one is doing that due to extra cost.

I have a hunch this has to do with pushing users towards storing their stuff in the cloud. Or it's just me being paranoid. Either way, really, really petty when you charge $500+ for the phone.

Yet the Pixel phones support USB 3.0 or faster data speeds over the connector, but no DP Alt mode...