GIGABYTE Intros X870E AORUS Master Motherboard

[chrcoluk]

I was wrong, sadly 10Gbit not mandatory

The Asus ProArt were the only X670 I would consider. I expect the X870E based ProArt will be at least as good.
SLI? Why would anyone think of that?
I just wish to use my m.2 card normally, and not extra crispy under my GPU heatsink.

"Just buy Threadripper bro"
TOP KEK LMAO even
1 - I know about it, (everyone know about it here)
The problem is:
2 - only the price...
Hope Intel will soon offer something with 50~60 PCIe usable lanes, forcing AMD to follow (nah, I would personally wouldn't buy any Intel CPU using more than the N100)
3 - Ryzen 9000 offers 28 lanes
Threadripper 7000 gives 88 lanes (60 more than the "top Ryzen 9")
Do you need a marketing degree to notice there is a big gap between?
Don't get me wrong, if I win the lottery I can use it all, but as of now, I would be happy with like ~40 usable PCIe lanes

So basically you wish for 2 full 16× PCIe slot
And two of these:
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This is the ultimate way forward, ship boards with maybe only the top m.2 slot, revert to pcie slot design, and ship one of these adaptors with the board for m.2 expandability, also all drive installations can be done easily out of the case as well, and this would offer better cooling as the icing on the cake. The main issue being though more lanes would be needed to route to the 2nd x16 slot, and if they were through the chipset, you will of course not be able to max out all drives at the same time, already the case though of course with chipset based M.2 (x8 lane for intel x4 lane for AMD). Doing both x16 slots direct over to CPU would need a bump on CPU side lanes I expect Intel and AMD wont stomach as to bringing the consumer line too closer to other lines.

However what might be workable for AMD, and only need them to add 4 more lanes to CPU, is to reduce first PCIe slot to 8x lanes, would be problematic for gen 3 top tier GPUs maybe, but I would think gen 4 and 5 ok, and then the second CPU slot full 16 lanes (which could be used for GPU if not planning to use the adaptor), then finally recovering 4 lanes by removing the 2nd CPU routed M.2 slot, this leaves only the 4 lanes short.

 

[csendesmark]

This is the ultimate way forward, ship boards with maybe only the top m.2 slot, revert to pcie slot design, and ship one of these adaptors with the board for m.2 expandability, also all drive installations can be done easily out of the case as well, and this would offer better cooling as the icing on the cake. The main issue being though more lanes would be needed to route to the 2nd x16 slot, and if they were through the chipset, you will of course not be able to max out all drives at the same time, already the case though of course with chipset based M.2 (x8 lane for intel x4 lane for AMD). Doing both x16 slots direct over to CPU would need a bump on CPU side lanes I expect Intel and AMD wont stomach as to bringing the consumer line too closer to other lines.

However what might be workable for AMD, and only need them to add 4 more lanes to CPU, is to reduce first PCIe slot to 8x lanes, would be problematic for gen 3 top tier GPUs maybe, but I would think gen 4 and 5 ok, and then the second CPU slot full 16 lanes (which could be used for GPU if not planning to use the adaptor), then finally recovering 4 lanes by removing the 2nd CPU routed M.2 slot, this leaves only the 4 lanes short.

Maybe the AM5 does not have the number of pins to pull a second full 16× PCIe...
So maybe we get ahead in 4~5 years.
Also, I would use an m.2 adapter card in the second 16× slot.