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only in the minds of the weak and the halls of corruption is it up for debate. in the real world we can see what is happening without the need for big business and corporations telling us "the truth".
Because the Gov. never ever lies...


i hold the words of those who do in much higher regard than any lab jockey from bumsville university who was paid to write a paper "disproving" anything.
To think only "lab jockeys from bumsville" disagree with the fictional 97% shows me you have very narrow paths of thought :( This subject requires an open mind and no blinders. Especially if you want others to even consider your views.

if people are the cause or not, matters not. not 1 fucking bit. it is happening and if we do nothing to stop it we are about to lose 60% of all our major cities all over the world. the major ports which every person in the modern world relies on for import/exports are about to be gone.
Dr.Evil might be a strong influence here. After all...he wants to control the weather too. :p
Oh and stop with the fear mongering please! Its like beating a dead horse and you guys lose credibility! The list of Failed global warming predictions is laughable... fucking amazing!
vega22 you want to talk about Weak Minds? All the Hurricanes and extreme weather??? WTF? Its been a record period of NO EXTREME WEATHER. You have google so you can search but, here is just a tidbit/sample of their extraordinary lies.


Now I'm going to burn some plastic...:toast:
 
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all depends on the government.

american government has been lying about it not happening for years.

just like they say fracking is safe too. not because it is the truth but because it makes more money for them.

where do you live dude?

no extreme weather?

europe has been hit with snow this week.

spain hit with hail the size of baseballs which destroyed many cars and killed livestock.

but hey, there is no extreme weather going on....
 

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no extreme weather?

europe has been hit with snow this week.

spain hit with hail the size of baseballs which destroyed many cars and killed livestock.

but hey, there is no extreme weather going on....
snigger THERE IS No Extreme Weather for computer Geeks living in moms basement
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Meanwhile in Liberia the Refugee's are waiting for the Mediterranean Sea to Ice over like Alaska so they can walk to Europe
 
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The IPCC found in 2013 there “is limited evidence of changes in extremes associated with other climate variables since the mid-20th century.” The IPCC also found “no significant observed trends in global tropical cyclone frequency over the past century” and “[n]o robust trends in annual numbers of tropical storms, hurricanes and major hurricanes counts have been identified over the past 100 years in the North Atlantic basin.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/05/03/a...is-still-alarmingly-inaccurate/#ixzz47lopAl8N
 
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Yup, if higher global average temperatures do have an impact on cyclonic activity, it will be several more decades before there's any conclusive evidence to prove it.

Considering there's already many decades of data, I'd call the odds pretty slim.
 

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Guys I will use a citation I heard on Quebec television about power electric lines worker in north. The guy was telling that before even the neck-mouth warmer was getting stuck with ice due to difference between body and outside temperature. Now its so warm due to global warming that even in far north they dont even need to cover their mouth anymore. Which makes it easier to work but soil is softer so its harder for trucks to roll on muddy ground.
 

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I think it's irrelevant. We could/should do a lot better about how we produce energy and we should take the highroad regardless of what impact, if any, there is on the planet. For example, we should be shutting down all of the coal power plants and replacing them with nuclear. Also, build more mass transit in cities like LA and get serious about finding a solution to long distance travel without burning thousands of gallons of fuel.

Agreed, it is irrelevant whether it is a scam or not, the fact is we need to move to a more green economy A) because it will provide better paying long term jobs (my cousin recently graduated from community college to do maintenance on windmills) B) our own health and air will improve, less nasty stuff in the air and wind currents the better for everyone C) Coal and fracking, separately in their own ways do pollute ground water one way or another, whether it be a little bit of this chemical dripping here or there during the process or transportation (not saying a lot does), which seeks into the underground wells a lot of small cities draw from.
 

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Methane produced by livestock farming accounts for around 18 per cent of global greenhouse gas emissions in the form of flatulence and belching, according to official estimates.





Researchers at Aarhus University in Denmark believe they may be able to reduce this by feeding cows oregano to alter the balance of bacteria in their digestive systems.

Dr Kai Grevsen, a senior researcher involved in the project, told NPR: 'Oregano has essential oils with a mild antimicrobial called carvacrol, which can kill some of the bacteria in the cow’s rumen that produce methane.


According to a recent UN report, farm animals release a total of 80 million metric tonnes of methane into the atmosphere, which is 23 times more potent at warming the planet than carbon dioxide.

As a result scientists have been trying for years to come up with different ways to prevent them from belching and flatulence.

Many of the previously tested remedies have been promising, for example adding the chemical, 3NOP to cattle feed cut the emissions from a sample of cows by 30 per cent.

The study is building on previous the work that looked at 3NOP and will go on until 2019.

They will be using Greek oregano because of its high concentration of belch-suppressing oil. They hope this method will cut methane by 25 per cent.

Dr Greveson also said cows lose a lot of their energy through the process of releasing methane.

He hopes the energy saved by blocking the methane-producing bacteria will allow the cow to generate more milk and therefore be beneficial to farmer.

It is also still unknown what the milk from oregano-fed cows will taste like, but in previous studies there were no hints of the flavour of pizza or spaghetti in the final product, Dr Greveson assures.
 

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Dairy cows are a very small percentage of the cows out there; most are raised for slaughter. I doubt oregano would have any impact on the flavor of the meat.

I applaud them for looking for practical solutions to the methane problem.
 
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Dairy cows are a very small percentage of the cows out there; most are raised for slaughter. I doubt oregano would have any impact on the flavor of the meat.
Maybe they could add some garlic to that and we could have pre-seasoned cows.
 
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4.5 billion years old, yeah were killing it.........
 
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I believe this is George's 3rd appearance in this thread. He also has an awesome monologue on the way Political Correctness has fucked shit up so bad.
 
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I'm old what can I say, forgot i posted this already
 
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Haa! Right on... I wasn't trying to call you out or anything...Hell, I think I may have even posted it once!
Edit: Found the PC one. This is epic.
 
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I'm differently abled but never diagnosed:roll:OH I suffer from Lookism as well



By the way, the SKY IS FALLING THE SKY IS FALLING!:fear:
 
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I just wish they would cram some more shit down our collective throats!!! Oh wait... get ready to swallow another load :/
http://portlandtribune.com/sl/30784...l-board-bans-climate-change-denying-materials

In a move spearheaded by environmentalists, the Portland Public Schools board unanimously approved a resolution aimed at eliminating doubt of climate change and its causes in schools.
“It is unacceptable that we have textbooks in our schools that spread doubt about the human causes and urgency of the crisis,” said Lincoln High School student Gaby Lemieux in board testimony. “Climate education is not a niche or a specialization, it is the minimum requirement for my generation to be successful in our changing world.”
 
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I just wish they would cram some more shit down our collective throats!!! Oh wait... get ready to swallow another load :/
http://portlandtribune.com/sl/30784...l-board-bans-climate-change-denying-materials

In a move spearheaded by environmentalists, the Portland Public Schools board unanimously approved a resolution aimed at eliminating doubt of climate change and its causes in schools.
“It is unacceptable that we have textbooks in our schools that spread doubt about the human causes and urgency of the crisis,” said Lincoln High School student Gaby Lemieux in board testimony. “Climate education is not a niche or a specialization, it is the minimum requirement for my generation to be successful in our changing world.”
In future news: SJWs riot @ Oregon university over banning of Hot Pockets due to fake ingredients.
 
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Pre-industrial era was much cloudier than previously thought:
The new data will "slightly reduce and sharpen the projections for temperature during the 21st century."
 

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See above: the "baseline" in the corner is wrong.
 
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See above: the "baseline" in the corner is wrong.
I can understand having a 50 year period for the baseline to average out temperatures to measure change against, but I'm not clear on how they measured global temps in 1850. Obviously their measuring instrumentation wouldn't be calibrated to todays standards or as accurate.
 
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Little Ice Age might skew that spiral "a bit". It's always good to take care of your environment though, it's a lot nicer having some clean air to breath instead of some smoke.
 

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I can understand having a 50 year period for the baseline to average out temperatures to measure change against, but I'm not clear on how they measured global temps in 1850. Obviously their measuring instrumentation wouldn't be calibrated to todays standards or as accurate.
I posted an article about how they got those temperatures a long time ago. Basically, there were taken by seafaring vessels and terrestrial observations.
 

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Obviously their measuring instrumentation wouldn't be calibrated to todays standards or as accurate.


Thermometers were invented 300 years ago and are easy to calibrate.....freezing point and boiling point of water.
 
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