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The biggest distinction for me at 165 Hz is that w/ a 165 Hz AUOptronic panel (as opposed to 144 hz) , I can turn G-Sync off and switch to ULMB at 120 Hz @ 1440p. At 144 hz, 100 Hz was max w/ ULMB. Took a long hard look at the G-Sync / Freesynsc stuff back in the day, and came away with this:
a) Fressync really showed its stuff from about 40 fps to 70 fps or so ... after that the difference between on / off seemed to diminish the higher the fps got.
b) G-sync really showed its stuff from about 30 fps to 70 fps or so ... after that the difference between on / off seemed to diminish the higher the fps dropped.
c) Each tech has some feature differences and each had pluses and minuses.
d) With 144/165 Hz monitors and big enough GFX cards, I could push fps well past 100 fps into the 120+ fps range. Once i got past 90 fps, I found that I much preferred using Motion Blur Reduction rather than the whatever-sync technology. With nVidia, MBR tech is built in ... it's that MBR hardware module that accounts for the cost difference between the two technologies. You can buy Freesync monitors with MBR technology but that tech is provided by the monitor manufacturer rather than AMD. You can see a list of what has what here:
blurbusters.com
Little has changed since, I don't know what monitor you have but if its on those lists for MBR tech, Id give it a try and see what you like better.
As for how to tell the difference, here's the thing. You know how the song goes ... "
"Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone? "
I find i don't notice improvements in technology as much as I miss that tech when I can't use it. My 1st experience with high refersh rate IPS screens came when my son finished college, was employed and rewarded hmself with a big hit on his credit card. Included on the list as a 1440p 144 hz monitor with a AUOptronics panel. I couldn't get near it for a month but when his college roomate was building an new box I went over to help with the build.... this one had a 34" curved panel.
I got about 2 hours on my son's box before I had to give it back, but then his roomate got picked up by his GF and I goit a shot at that. As to my son's box, it was a lot better than my monitor ... but I got up from the chair thinking ... nice but not worth 3 times the price. When I sat in the roomie's chair, I was impressed by the immersion the curved screen gave and started to feel bad that I talked my son out of getting one. After 2 hours, I switched with my son again.
I loaded the game again and it was like a punch in the face. Everything looked so much more realistic, motion wise ... colors were 'thicker' for lack of a better word, shadows more realistic ... It was like looking at the Mona Lisa in a museum versus looking at the Mona Lisa in an art book ... a cheap art book. The biggest difference was that motion was much smoother... how could I not have seen this before ? Well part of this was that I hadn't played anything in months and when I sat down, I had no recent experience to use as a familiar reference. I walked back in the other room to see what I had left just 10 minutes ago and it was as if I was looking thru a filter or foggy windshield ... colors seemed pale, movement was somewhat mechanical by comparison. My son was laughing at me and I said "what did you do ?".... he told me that he had switched from G-Sync to ULMB. After that i bounced back and forth and what I realized was is:
a) The color on the 27" AU Optronics panel was far superior than on the LG 24' curved panel.... I just didn't notice it as much without something to compare it with.... color was the same whether using G-Sync or ULMB,
b) I found ULMB far better from a motion standpoint than G-Sync ... couldn't see any ghosting even when straining to do so.
I am anxious to have him upgrade to a 165Hz panel for 2 reasons : a) I will inherit the old 144 Hz screen ... I wanna see how much improvement there is w/ ULMB at 120 Hz as compared with the current 144 hz model which tops out at 100 Hz in ULMB
Here's a comparison of 144hz versus 120 MHs under ULMB
This video also shows the effect on" ghosting"
https: //youtu.be/hD5gjAs1A2s .... (delete the 2 spaces after https: that I added as I didn't want a big picture blob in middle of the text)
Well while that explains what is different, lets address what you are seeing, The reason I went into that discussion comparing that weekend's experience is that our exerinces are relative. We are less likely to notice an improvement than we are a drop in the experience. Back in my audiophile days, I subscribed to a magazine called The Absolute Sound". We'd joke that hat was the "State of the Art in the Winter issue would some times be knocked down a few notches in the Spring issue. It's not so much that you notice hearing something better as it is having done so, youn are now able to detect flaws in the previous "best". So give it some time... play with the new thing for 2 weeks... then go back... I bet you will wonder "How could I aver be satisfied with this ?" I posted a link to optimized ICC profiles below, you may find this improves your color profile.
Good reading:
Obtain optimized ICC profiles for your Monitor:
www.tftcentral.co.uk
Variable Refresh Rates G-sync and FreeSync
www.tftcentral.co.uk
a) Fressync really showed its stuff from about 40 fps to 70 fps or so ... after that the difference between on / off seemed to diminish the higher the fps got.
b) G-sync really showed its stuff from about 30 fps to 70 fps or so ... after that the difference between on / off seemed to diminish the higher the fps dropped.
c) Each tech has some feature differences and each had pluses and minuses.
d) With 144/165 Hz monitors and big enough GFX cards, I could push fps well past 100 fps into the 120+ fps range. Once i got past 90 fps, I found that I much preferred using Motion Blur Reduction rather than the whatever-sync technology. With nVidia, MBR tech is built in ... it's that MBR hardware module that accounts for the cost difference between the two technologies. You can buy Freesync monitors with MBR technology but that tech is provided by the monitor manufacturer rather than AMD. You can see a list of what has what here:
List of FreeSync Monitors
This list features current monitors that supports FreeSync (AMD), HDMI Variable Refresh Rate (VRR), VESA Adaptive-Sync , and 'G-SYNC Compatible'. See a TestUFO Animation of FreeSync for a FreeSync demo! Also, XBOX ONE gaming console now support FreeSync, 120Hz, and 1440p. Jump to: 240Hz 144Hz...
blurbusters.com
Little has changed since, I don't know what monitor you have but if its on those lists for MBR tech, Id give it a try and see what you like better.
As for how to tell the difference, here's the thing. You know how the song goes ... "
"Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone? "
I find i don't notice improvements in technology as much as I miss that tech when I can't use it. My 1st experience with high refersh rate IPS screens came when my son finished college, was employed and rewarded hmself with a big hit on his credit card. Included on the list as a 1440p 144 hz monitor with a AUOptronics panel. I couldn't get near it for a month but when his college roomate was building an new box I went over to help with the build.... this one had a 34" curved panel.
I got about 2 hours on my son's box before I had to give it back, but then his roomate got picked up by his GF and I goit a shot at that. As to my son's box, it was a lot better than my monitor ... but I got up from the chair thinking ... nice but not worth 3 times the price. When I sat in the roomie's chair, I was impressed by the immersion the curved screen gave and started to feel bad that I talked my son out of getting one. After 2 hours, I switched with my son again.
I loaded the game again and it was like a punch in the face. Everything looked so much more realistic, motion wise ... colors were 'thicker' for lack of a better word, shadows more realistic ... It was like looking at the Mona Lisa in a museum versus looking at the Mona Lisa in an art book ... a cheap art book. The biggest difference was that motion was much smoother... how could I not have seen this before ? Well part of this was that I hadn't played anything in months and when I sat down, I had no recent experience to use as a familiar reference. I walked back in the other room to see what I had left just 10 minutes ago and it was as if I was looking thru a filter or foggy windshield ... colors seemed pale, movement was somewhat mechanical by comparison. My son was laughing at me and I said "what did you do ?".... he told me that he had switched from G-Sync to ULMB. After that i bounced back and forth and what I realized was is:
a) The color on the 27" AU Optronics panel was far superior than on the LG 24' curved panel.... I just didn't notice it as much without something to compare it with.... color was the same whether using G-Sync or ULMB,
b) I found ULMB far better from a motion standpoint than G-Sync ... couldn't see any ghosting even when straining to do so.
I am anxious to have him upgrade to a 165Hz panel for 2 reasons : a) I will inherit the old 144 Hz screen ... I wanna see how much improvement there is w/ ULMB at 120 Hz as compared with the current 144 hz model which tops out at 100 Hz in ULMB
Here's a comparison of 144hz versus 120 MHs under ULMB
This video also shows the effect on" ghosting"
https: //youtu.be/hD5gjAs1A2s .... (delete the 2 spaces after https: that I added as I didn't want a big picture blob in middle of the text)
Well while that explains what is different, lets address what you are seeing, The reason I went into that discussion comparing that weekend's experience is that our exerinces are relative. We are less likely to notice an improvement than we are a drop in the experience. Back in my audiophile days, I subscribed to a magazine called The Absolute Sound". We'd joke that hat was the "State of the Art in the Winter issue would some times be knocked down a few notches in the Spring issue. It's not so much that you notice hearing something better as it is having done so, youn are now able to detect flaws in the previous "best". So give it some time... play with the new thing for 2 weeks... then go back... I bet you will wonder "How could I aver be satisfied with this ?" I posted a link to optimized ICC profiles below, you may find this improves your color profile.
Good reading:
Obtain optimized ICC profiles for your Monitor:
ICC Profiles and Monitor Calibration Settings Database - TFTCentral
ICC Profiles and monitor calibration settings database to help you set up and calibrate your monitor for improved performance and colours
www.tftcentral.co.uk
Variable Refresh Rates G-sync and FreeSync
Variable Refresh Rates - G-sync and FreeSync - TFTCentral
A detailed look at variable refresh rates (VRR) including NVIDIA G-sync, AMD FreeSync and all the various versions and certifications that exist
www.tftcentral.co.uk
