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Well, pulled the trigger on the silverstone strider 850+ modular... this will answer the question: is my palit gtx280 okay, and always has been? And: will I sli my 2 gtx260 cards! And: was I one of the very few unfortunate souls on earth that got a malfunctioning corsair tx750? Stay tuned......
 

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What are the max clocks on a good gtx260? I just did a brief test as I have a bad psu, but my pny pulled 720\1440\1107 running warhead on max settings, 8xaa ect?
Edit: The pny is a performance edition 55nm model, the xfx I haven't tested yet is an xfx core 216 black, probably 65nm.
 
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What are the max clocks on a good gtx260? I just did a brief test as I have a bad psu, but my pny pulled 720\1440\1107 running warhead on max settings, 8xaa ect?
Edit: The pny is a performance edition 55nm model, the xfx I haven't tested yet is an xfx core 216 black, probably 65nm.

Those sound about right... remember that they jump in very specific "steppings", I dont know what the steppings are for the 55nm, but I know that 720 1440 would not be the actual clocks for a 65nm card, since the next stepping would be 728 1456 and the one below that would be something like 712 1424 AFAIK, but the best way to monitor it is through rivatuner of EVGA precision.

Also, lower GPU temps will give you more headroom. If you keep it below 55-60C on the GPU you will be able to hit 756 1512 easy. With aftermarket cooling, you might be able to game at 783 1566sh. One of my cards can do that, but the other will crash :/
 
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Just saw my 2 gtx260 cards come up in sli, but only under win7. Can't wait for my new psu! And yes I know the 65s have a bit different clock stepping than the 55s. Makes it a bit of a chore for clock matching under sli!
 

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unfortunately i'm already quite dissatisfied with the 260. i was expecting it to be able to play max on dragon age origins at least, where the graphics aren't that fantastic in the first place, and it's not doing so well. on max (no msaa), there are areas where fps drops to 20 and stutters.

dya think an e6750 would significantly cripple a 5 series card? here's what i'm talking about: http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,6...ores/Practice/
it's either i hold off on both, or i just get the new card. i won't be upgrading a processor now since that would entail a new motherboard and rams as well and that's more money than i'm willing to spend right now.

dya happen to know of any programs that display cpu load while gaming?
If you upgrade anything, it should be your processor and mobo / memory. That e6750 probably bottlenecks the GTX260 at stock speeds to some extent. And not all games are pure GPU power for performance. A lot of games, along the RPG realm especially, use a lot of processor power as well. Here's a decent scaling example. I own a GTX260, and run an AMD Phenom II X4 Black edition (AM2+) at 3.65Ghz. At its stock CPU speed (3.0Ghz), my GTX260 didn't scale well on performance when overclocking the GPU. However, when I overclocked my CPU, I scaled very well in benchmarks and stability. Thus, my problem was my CPU bottlenecking my GPU.
Why not push the CPU further, as well as GPU?!?! My current power supply, an Antec 850 Quattro, and/or my DFI LanParty DK (1st gen) will not support the voltage, or more likely, amperage (on the power supply's part with 18 amps per rail, i.e. about 30 amps max with PCI-E power coming from 2 rails) needed to OC both at the same time. I currently play everything max on everything I own, including DA-Origins & Source games, very well on a 30" 1080p Sceptre Monitor. My card is backed down to stock voltages and clock, and my CPU is ramped up to get the most out of my GTX260 (a 192 core I might add). Hence, you need a new processor bud, cuzz your numbers probably won't go up any with a 5000 series ATI, assuming the lack of a Physx processor that the 260 is giving you, doesn't make your performance with an ATI card of any type go down.
Another way to look at it is that your 65nm CPU is trying to process input from a 65 or 55nm GPU that was made with newer technology and doesn't know when to quit. Try FAH, my stock GTX260 192 core pushes 6-7K PPD. I would wager a e6750 in at the 3-4K PPD range max. It just can't push it. $400 in mobo, CPU, and RAM will do you a lot more good than $500 in graphics card when you aren't even using the one you have's potential.
 
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If you upgrade anything, it should be your processor and mobo / memory. That e6750 probably bottlenecks the GTX260 at stock speeds to some extent. And not all games are pure GPU power for performance. A lot of games, along the RPG realm especially, use a lot of processor power as well. Here's a decent scaling example. I own a GTX260, and run an AMD Phenom II X4 Black edition (AM2+) at 3.65Ghz. At its stock CPU speed (3.0Ghz), my GTX260 didn't scale well on performance when overclocking the GPU. However, when I overclocked my CPU, I scaled very well in benchmarks and stability. Thus, my problem was my CPU bottlenecking my GPU.
Why not push the CPU further, as well as GPU?!?! My current power supply, an Antec 850 Quattro, and/or my DFI LanParty DK (1st gen) will not support the voltage, or more likely, amperage (on the power supply's part with 18 amps per rail, i.e. about 30 amps max with PCI-E power coming from 2 rails) needed to OC both at the same time. I currently play everything max on everything I own, including DA-Origins & Source games, very well on a 30" 1080p Sceptre Monitor. My card is backed down to stock voltages and clock, and my CPU is ramped up to get the most out of my GTX260 (a 192 core I might add). Hence, you need a new processor bud, cuzz your numbers probably won't go up any with a 5000 series ATI, assuming the lack of a Physx processor that the 260 is giving you, doesn't make your performance with an ATI card of any type go down.
Another way to look at it is that your 65nm CPU is trying to process input from a 65 or 55nm GPU that was made with newer technology and doesn't know when to quit. Try FAH, my stock GTX260 192 core pushes 6-7K PPD. I would wager a e6750 in at the 3-4K PPD range max. It just can't push it. $400 in mobo, CPU, and RAM will do you a lot more good than $500 in graphics card when you aren't even using the one you have's potential.


your spot on , tats why im gettin a phenom x4 my athlon x2 240 @ 3.4 isnt enough for my
gtx 260 dont get me wrong some games are ok like dirt 2 but bfbc2 has to be played on medium no aa and get 22-35fps ith my cpu 100% usage. so i cant wait to get my no cpu-mobo and a bigger psu for some oc!
 

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Well, the Silversone answered many questions.. my gtx280 is okay and always has been. So much for my nice expensive corsair tx750 that caused me over a year of grief! And as I though, tweaking a 55nm and 65nm gtx260 to work together is a pain, but worth at least 30% performance increase over a gtx280. A lot of work, but finally paid off.....
 
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C'mon...4 weeks and nothing happened to your GTX260's? :)

Some ppl over at guru3D claimed higher oc with 257.15 Beta. I don't agree. I've had many 3DMark Vantage runs with memory at 1260MHz...1242MHz was highest with this new driver w/o driver errors..but, I also could run higher CORE CLOCK...they usually go in 27MHz increments, 729MHz being the highest on the stock 1.06v(756MHz @ 1.12v)...now 738MHz was possible in Vantage. For shaders, same old, same old...1512MHz..99% of all GTX260 stop there...

How old are my GTX 260s? lol...2 years? they feel golden tho, like 8800GTX used to be..I'm sure they also still roxx!
 

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C'mon...4 weeks and nothing happened to your GTX260's? :)

Some ppl over at guru3D claimed higher oc with 257.15 Beta. I don't agree. I've had many 3DMark Vantage runs with memory at 1260MHz...1242MHz was highest with this new driver w/o driver errors..but, I also could run higher CORE CLOCK...they usually go in 27MHz increments, 729MHz being the highest on the stock 1.06v(756MHz @ 1.12v)...now 738MHz was possible in Vantage. For shaders, same old, same old...1512MHz..99% of all GTX260 stop there...

How old are my GTX 260s? lol...2 years? they feel golden tho, like 8800GTX used to be..I'm sure they also still roxx!

55nm shaders go higher than 1512, but yes any 65nm stop there for sure. I just got a core 216 than can only pull 734 core but 1566 stable - 1620 shaders in Metro 2033 and Crysis (methinks these are inefficient games allow for higher shader clocks.)

memory clocks on newer ones are sh*t though. i cant get past 1161 :(
 
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I'm stuck with 1458 shaders for gaming, the 55nm 260 actually can't sustain 1512, whereas my 65nm can. Weird. Also of note, got 21.5k suicide run at 1512 shaders in vantage with 197.45 drivers, got almost as high with stable 1458 shaders using the 257.15 drivers. Interesting...! And nope, didn't blow 'em up yet!
 

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Nvidia Ion is a system/motherboard platform that includes Nvidia's GeForce 9400M (MCP79) chipset, DDR3-1066 or DDR2-800 SDRAM, and the Intel Atom processor. The original reference platform was based on a Pico-ITXe motherboard designed for netbook and nettop devices.

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iv had my ram running @ 1250 befor but i had to rlly lower my core clock. my temps are low for gamming max stress tested temp was 54 deg but i game arround 47-50

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=42234&vpn=T-Rad2 GTX&manufacture=Thermalright only problem with this cooler is the 2end chip lol dont know what it is but its only got a small ram synk on it held on by twist tie and thick thermal paste
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i can't move my ram at all with 796 core but i think im getting smother gamming like this iv used furmark and left itfor like 3 hrs maby and max temp was 56deg i dotn wanna blow my card up with any volt mod thing so i left the volts stock.
 
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How are you overclocking? What are you using to verify clocks? I did learn early on to pay attention to what the evga precision graphs reported because GPU-z (at least used to) read the driver clocks not the actual clocks. That's a pretty big OC, especially if it's a later 216 core card that doesn't support voltage control with some serious cooling. Not saying it's impossible to attain on air or stock air cooling though.

Can you take some screenshots and maybe post em up? What driver are you using? Have you reseated the card? Have you verified it's PCI-e slot is at 16X (wouldn't be that drastic tho...)? What do you get at stock speeds? It's been a good while since I sold my 260, but I'll do what I can to help out man.

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its the 65nm gtx260. flashed to GTX280 standard clocks and voltages. I use EVGA precision and EVGA voltage tuner. afterburner doesnt work on this card for some reason. its got volterra vrms. water cooled core and unisink with backplate ill post screenies, i think they are driver issues because its off and on sometimes ill get high 3dmark scores sometimes low.
 
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I was using the 197.45's and they were acting buggy like driver crashes etc, upgraded to the 25X.XX drivers no more issues except when I oc it at all from where it is with the GTX280 bios it gets super low performance
 
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my drivers would chrash alot on the 197. im going to try this new driver and see if i fixes the bugs
 
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its weird i have been getting random hard locks since putting the 260 in my system, not sure why, just says "system has haulted" and bluescreen
 
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i think iv had the same problems lol but iv been overclocking every part of my pc so it may just be me. the new drivers seem to have fixed my mem load controler it would chrash and go to 100% used on older drivers.
 
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