HIS Readying AGP HD 4670

eidairaman1 · Jul 19, 2009

No he was referring to a message I sent him about the joke he posted. I wasn't trying to be a buzz kill but it was in violation of the forum policy here, that joke could offend someone easily based on protected rights. Just trying to use CYA so he doesn't get in trouble with his fellow moderators.

Mussels · Jul 19, 2009

775 is power efficient. bad comparison. 1156 hasnt been released yet. once it IS released, and has been released for say, 3 years - then yes, i expect the majority of users to have moved on.

775 is old, but its REPLACEMENT is not. In fact, its replacement isnt even out yet. Will be very soon, however.

sigh, sata is a bad comparison. its backwards compatible. AGP and PCI-E are not. same with 1.1 and 2.0.

As for office... sure, why not. MS could tie new office in with new OS. its still capable of reading and saving older formats for older OS/office, so why not.

Scrizz · Jul 19, 2009

Is AGP being around actually hurting someone personally?

k0rn_h0li0 · Jul 19, 2009

i stopped buying agp after the 7800gs. the 3850 wasn't really that great and i don't think this card will either :/ sorry agp imma stick with nvidia. ATI isn't suitable for agp anymore

PP Mguire · Jul 19, 2009

My AGP 3850 stomps the crap outa my 7800GS. Get the newest drivers for ATI and OC your cpu.

k0rn_h0li0 · Jul 19, 2009

HAHA i wanted to. i had a 3700+ 754 only 1gb of ram though and a 500watt psu. i would've kept the 3850 but mehhh it was power consuming in my eyes.

eidairaman1 · Jul 20, 2009

k0rn_h0li0 said:
HAHA i wanted to. i had a 3700+ 754 only 1gb of ram though and a 500watt psu. i would've kept the 3850 but mehhh it was power consuming in my eyes.

if you wanted power consuming, get a 2900.

swaaye · Jul 20, 2009

When idle, the 3850 is much more power efficient than even the ancient 6800 or X800, actually. I've measured it myself. They also use about 50% less power than a HD 2900 XT when loaded down in a game. There's nothing power sucking about them.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-radeon-power,2122-3.html

4670 uses even less power, but the difference at idle is minimal. The problem with 4670 is it only has about 60% as much RAM bandwidth as 3850 and it shows sometimes. 4670 is either barely faster or is slower than a 3850 most of the time.

As for AGP going on forever, whatever. But what is funny is seeing people repeatedly pay the AGP card premium. That's dumb.

PP Mguire · Jul 20, 2009

I didnt pay for mine :laugh:

so i like it.

niko084 · Jul 20, 2009

Hahaha, while you guys tell people they can't have it, I'm busy selling it!

90%+ of the new systems I sell go out with XP.
I even have a lot of customers come to me after being told they can't have XP.

Best part is a lot of engineering companies can't run vista for software compatibility issues which they are not going to fork 50k+ for new software because they need 1 new computer.

Now that is over with..

The 4670 is on par and slightly faster than a 3870 depending, so yes it's faster than a 3850.

But that being said, it is nice to see some new cards still coming out in AGP but the prices are just stupid.. I myself am in need of a decent agp card for an older machine, keep looking for like a 6800 or something, the more these get released the lower the realistic prices on the 6800s will come down

Mussels · Jul 20, 2009

Scrizz said:
Is AGP being around actually hurting someone personally?

the factories making the parts and using GPU cores, could instead be used to make more PCI-E parts, thus lowering prices a small amount.

eidairaman1 · Jul 20, 2009

Well apparently there is still a demand for AGP parts otherwise they wouldn't exist now would they

lemonadesoda · Jul 21, 2009

Mussels said:
the factories making the parts and using GPU cores, could instead be used to make more PCI-E parts, thus lowering prices a small amount.

With that kind of argument, we only need "one factory, one brand" in the world for everything to improve economies of scale.

Oh, wait, :shadedshu

Mussels said:
775 is power efficient. bad comparison. 1156 hasnt been released yet. once it IS released, and has been released for say, 3 years - then yes, i expect the majority of users to have moved on.

775 is old, but its REPLACEMENT is not. In fact, its replacement isnt even out yet. Will be very soon, however.

sigh, sata is a bad comparison. its backwards compatible. AGP and PCI-E are not. same with 1.1 and 2.0.

As for office... sure, why not. MS could tie new office in with new OS. its still capable of reading and saving older formats for older OS/office, so why not.

Mussels!!!! You are staying up too late, or getting up too early! Dont you see the sarcasm/irony in my post?

Mussels · Jul 21, 2009

sarcasm and irony like escaping me. This IS the internet.

eidairaman1 · Jul 24, 2009

Well i sent some feedback to AMD about Driver support for legacy AGP parts, lets see if they even respond.

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HIS Readying AGP HD 4670

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman

Mussels

Freshwater Moderator

Scrizz

k0rn_h0li0

New Member

PP Mguire

k0rn_h0li0

New Member

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman

swaaye

PP Mguire

niko084

Mussels

Freshwater Moderator

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman

lemonadesoda

Mussels

Freshwater Moderator

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman

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