How efficient is your cruncher?

[hat]

3600x drawing less power than 3600... interesting.

 

[xvi]

And then there's this:

I don't know why I didn't think about using reviews for power consumption levels. Thanks!
Due to the more extensive list and hopefully more accurate results, I'm grabbing package wattage off of AnandTech's site. Working on adding package wattage next to the CPU and calculating GFLOPS per watt. To point out the obvious, it would be most ideal to get power measurements while it's running the actual workload in question but I'm just working with what I can find for now.
Weird that TPU lists ~133 watts for total system power of the 8700K but AnandTech shows 150w under full load for the CPU package alone. Not sure what they're using to stress it though.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

Weird that TPU lists ~133 watts for total system power of the 8700K but AnandTech shows 150w under full load for the CPU package alone.

There are variations between CPU's, but I bet AnandTech forgot to turn off the default overclocking that so many motherboards do today.

 

[phill]

I'll see if I can get my figures updated here for everyone, I've tested 4 out of the 6 crunchers so I'll see if I can get the other two tested Some interesting results from my Xeon's and Ryzen's I'm hoping that the 3900X will give me some surprising results

 

[phill]

Well guys, I suppose it's better late than never.... So, here we go...

Cruncher 1, R620

Dual Xeon E5-2658 V2 - 20C 40T



Price per hour 4p @ 16p per Kw

Cruncher 2, R730 (1)

Dual Xeon E5-2680 V3 - 24C 48T



Price per hour 7p @ 16p per Kw

Quick pic....



Cruncher 3, 2700X + EVGA GTX 1070 SC - 8C 16T



Price per hour 3.4p (ish) @ 16p per Kw
With the EVGA GTX 1070 SC crunching away it's adding about 120w to the total (see third pic) - Price per hour 4p (ish) @ 16p per Kw

Cruncher 4, Mrs's rig, 1700X + Asus Strix RX 480 - 8C 16T



Price per hour 2.8p (ish) @ 16p per Kw

Cruncher 5, my main rig, 3900X + 2 1080 Ti's - 12C 24T



CPU limited to 3150MHz - price per hour 4p @ 16p per Kw
Second pic, with the CPU limited to 3150MHz and the two 1080 Ti's folding price per hour 10.8p (ish) @ 16p per Kw
My two 1080 Ti's are underclocked when they run Folding @ Home just because of the heat and the extra strain on the cards, so I try to limit the power and heat as much as possible. I'm hoping to be able to get it into a case at some point soon, I don't like it being on the desk with Sophia (my boss and Admin) as she can now walk....

Cruncher 6, Isabelle's rig (eldest daughter), 1700X + Asus Strix RX 480 (same as the Mrs's) - 8C 16T



Price per hour 2.5p (ish) @ 16p per Kw

Cruncher 7 - 6700k - 4C 8T

Used to be used a little while ago, but retired it due to having the Ryzen setups. If my memory serves me correctly, it's about the 130w mark when under load... I've not re-tested it as it's now doing Rosetta work units rather than WCG. I know different units can make a difference but how much I'm unsure. Something like 3p an hour or something like that?? (I'll find a link and put it here... - Different thread, but similar!! )

The new Admin is keeping tabs on my crunching, so I'm trying to keep the boss happy....



So the total cores I have crunching are 84 and we have a total of 168 threads thumping along
I'd like to get the other R730 server running as well (hopefully dual 14C or higher??) and then I've a Ryzen 2700 to find a motherboard and some RAM for and then if I wish to re-introduce the two R710's into the mix, they both have dual L5640's (I think, but definitely hex cores in both sockets), so another 24 threads each there. But sadly I don't believe I'd be able to keep up the electric for that lot!! I'm not even going to mention the EVGA SR-2 board but that's another 24 threads as well X5675's in there

Without any FAH @ Home running on the 3 GPUs, cost per hour is approx 26.7p (call it 27p....)
With FAH @ Home running, the cost per hour is 34.1p (34p lol) Thank god for solar panels!! Ironically over in the UK it's known for mostly raining.....

Anyways, I've dribbled on long enough... I hope this was interesting for at least one person!??!

 

[phill]

Oh and as I have a brain the size of a pea at times, here's what I promised with the miner I used to have....

No tweaking....


With tweaking....


And a quick snap of the setup at the time..

It's what you use your dining room table for isn't it??......

Eventually I got it installed on to a home made 'case' which actually worked, really darn well!



So something that I suppose I could run for FAH in a way?? Although I'd guess I'd have to try and use my 1080 Ti's as I'm not sure that the 480's there will be as good efficiency wise...

Anyways, I hope you guys enjoyed the pics

 

[xvi]

User | PSU | CPU + GPU | HDD/SSDs | Watts @ Load | Average 7 days PPD | points per watt | OS | Comment
xvi | 12v wall wart | Intel J4205 | 256GB SSD | 12.5w at wall @ 100% | 1,100 ppd | 88 points per watt | Window 10 Pro | Beelink J45 NUC

 

[phill]

I forgot to update this thread a little since I've done some tweaking with the 3900X system...

Since the last update I have been able to get the power down from the 220w to 230w down to 155w to 165w I found that the Ryzen Master was doing nothing when it came to controlling the voltage (should have looked harder at it) but then I've changed things in the bios itself and wow was there a difference as you can see!

I'm very impressed with the CPU and must say that I'm only on air cooling.. When I finally get some cash together, I will make sure that I get this speed I use daily tested with water and see what things are like from there... My full load temps are currently about the 50 to 55C mark It's cooled down a little around at the moment, but wow what a CPU!! I've been asked to sell it but the only thing I'd willingly grab next I think is a 3950X... We'll see

I'll try and grab some pics with the power draw I've got the two servers, 1700X and 2700X + GTX 1070 on a power bar at the moment, I'm seeing draws of around 1100w for the 4 systems whilst the 1070 is folding as well.. ouch!! Mind you I guess that's not tooo bad for 60C 120T is it??

 

[KLiKzg]

Mine?

Considering my GPUs, which are all xx50 or xx30 - so those are efficient enough (no extra power to the GPU).

Considering my CPUs, those are usually not...as I mostly run 2nd or 3rd Xeon processors from top of the line for that particular motherboard. Same thing will happen soon to my Lenovo C30.

Considering my RAM, usually not at all...as most of my computers use max ram or 2/3 of RAM allocated...if not, those are about to be!

Considering my data, pretty sure I have taken some wattage off with SATA SSDs...but there was never a good test done about the execution of program per use...maybe some day?!

 

[Toothless]

That's a lot of considering to take into consideration.

I guess to keep the thread alive, my 2680v2 pulls 200w from the chips alone. Everything else pulls more power for less multithread.

 

[PaulieG]

So, a related question. I was considering running all my crunchers 24/5 and taking the weekend off to save on some power. How many of you do 24/7 on all crunchers? For those of you who don't, what kind of "schedule" do you have for your rigs for WCG?

 

[Toothless]

So, a related question. I was considering running all my crunchers 24/5 and taking the weekend off to save on some power. How many of you do 24/7 on all crunchers? For those of you who don't, what kind of "schedule" do you have for your rigs for WCG?

Cold outside = crunch time. Not gonna pay for heating when science does it for me.

 

[80-watt Hamster]

So, a related question. I was considering running all my crunchers 24/5 and taking the weekend off to save on some power. How many of you do 24/7 on all crunchers? For those of you who don't, what kind of "schedule" do you have for your rigs for WCG?

Running 24/7 since it's still heating season. Heat from volts does cost more per unit energy than from gas, but I've decided to accept that. What I haven't decided is whether or what to run once I'm trying to cool the house instead. I may shut everything down but the 1030 on F@H, since it pulls all of 35W.

 

[stinger608]

All but one of my crunchers are in the basement, so I run 24/7/365 and on leap year 366 LOLOL

 

[KLiKzg]

Running 24/7 since it's still heating season. Heat from volts does cost more per unit energy than from gas, but I've decided to accept that. What I haven't decided is whether or what to run once I'm trying to cool the house instead. I may shut everything down but the 1030 on F@H, since it pulls all of 35W.

You could put some program to regulate the temperature of CPU / GPU. That would throttle it down & make sure you not only consume less - but also heat less the room.

Personally, I use FREE program Tthrottle for doing just that.


Disclaimer: I don't have any associations with developer of this program, other then giving some inputs in his/her forum for further development of the apps.

 

[80-watt Hamster]

You could put some program to regulate the temperature of CPU / GPU. That would throttle it down & make sure you not only consume less - but also heat less the room.

Personally, I use FREE program Tthrottle for doing just that.


Disclaimer: I don't have any associations with developer of this program, other then giving some inputs in his/her forum for further development of the apps.

It's less about the ability to handle the heat generated than trying to be a (slightly more) responsible consumer of energy. Each joule of energy generated by a heat source essentially has double impact when added to a space one's trying to cool. Having them all in the basement would probably keep that to a minimum, or I could move them to the garage with a downclock so they don't overheat. But it also feels like it's maybe better to keep my energy bill just that tiny bit smaller, and to leave that tiny bit of strain off the grid. It all adds up, ya know.

 

[phill]

Thanks for the updates everyone, we tend to forget about what things cost after we've bought them but doing this sort of thing doesn't only cost to buy but more so to run. The difference in idle to full load 8 hours to 12 or 16 or even 24 hours a day, can be a massive thing...

Some of my rigs are what I'd consider efficient considering the hardware but for the likes of the servers running that's about as inefficient as you can get!

Thanks for keeping the thread alive there, none of these posts are not informative It's great reading everyone's input and setups

 

[phill]

I thought I'd just drop in with a quick update for a couple of my rigs I've been very lucky to be able to swap around a little....



I've been fortunate enough that I have managed to be able to buy myself a 3900X and a 3950X that I've swapped out for my original 3900X.. Seeing as I had two X370s with 1700X's in them, I thought well, bit more performance and power required and what CPU should I put in them as they will support up to the 3950X... Seeing as at the time I was looking I could see bids going from £350 at its lowest to well over £450+, I decided that I'll grab another 3900X for the X370 board and then I can use the 3950X for the Mrs's when I get my 5950X for my other board.

As I was trying to get my CPU installed and tested, the board refused to play ball and wouldn't post with an 02 error I



So I had to go back to the 1700X and find out what was causing it....
Turned out it was pretty simple cause it was literally down the bios version I was running with these two boards.. They where both using 6201 bios, but the 3900X wasn't supported until 7001, so since there was a fair few more updates since the 7001 update, I just went and downloaded the latest.



So with the board's bios safetly updated and working fine and me releasing trying to flash a WiFi board with a non WiFi bios, wasn't going to work, I made sure I had the right bios and version... (Stupid boy!! )
So being very happy and getting things moving along, I did a quick test with the CPU cooler and the default voltages and the temps were definitely not what you wanted to be seeing with crunching 24/7.... Or even for a few minutes to be honest... But still, here's a few pics...



The second 3900X I had wasn't the best in the world so with a few tweaks and manually setting the CPU core speeds, we slowly got there and we went from around 90C after not even 30 seconds of crunching to about 60 to 65C with a random heatsink, just ploked on the top of the CPU....



Now with the power usage at this point in time, I must say I was very impressed by far...



So first one is running with WCG running 100% and the second is with WCG and FAH running together on my 1080 TI. I've set the GPU to about 60% power to try and get the temps better for the GPU as well as the CPU as it can add a few degrees to the temp of the CPU. So for 12C 24T running at 100% and the 1080 TI running at full as well, I didn't think that 145w crunching and then 280w crunching and folding together.... I was and am very impressed with these 3900X CPUs One of the CPUs where able to be set about 1.05vcore I believe, the other wasn't so good and that requires 1.10vcore I believe, so it's a little warmer as well as using a little more juice to get the job done

I'll try and grab a few updates with the 3950X but I thought I'd give these two 3900X's some lime light first Hopefully the post was a little interesting and useful.... I'll try and run a test with just crunching and then crunching and folding together, just to get an idea of running costs with this

I've also got something to test with them just to see how it handles the 3900X's, I'll of course report back to everyone just to see what is what and what you all think Thanks for reading if you got this far, I wonder if you'd skip the post when you see my name and the loads of pictures surrounding it!!

EDIT - I've also managed to get some testing in with the AIO today, so I'll post that up later

 

[KLiKzg]

@philll, why do you power down the GPU?

Personally, I use Tthrottle & set the "max temp." for CPU & GPU. That way, even if fans fail (& they do fail), the GPU will throttle down to 1%.
& yes, in summer they get down to 40% throttling during the day time on some days, but most of the time they are on 100%.

 

[phill]

@philll, why do you power down the GPU?

Personally, I use Tthrottle & set the "max temp." for CPU & GPU. That way, even if fans fail (& they do fail), the GPU will throttle down to 1%.
& yes, in summer they get down to 40% throttling during the day time on some days, but most of the time they are on 100%.

I find it keeps the temps down on the GPU whilst folding away and with the wattage as well, limits it I find it works really well I try to keep the temps of the CPUs and GPUs at worst 60C under load. Normally anything between 40 to 50C is much more preferable for me

Servers, they normally hit 60C under load which is unsurprising due to their environment but otherwise they are as good as gold also, just well, hungry for power lol