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[dirtyferret]

I'll look at it thank you

That list is a joke and has been ripped apart multiple times on jonnygurus forums as do most PSU lists. 64k asked a question which you have yet to answer.

What are you looking to power?
Any future upgrades that will require more power?
What is your budget?
Where do you shop? Specific web store would help.

 

[cucker tarlson]

How about a tx550m ?

Corsair TX550M (2017) Chroma Review @TweakPC

https://www.tweakpc.de/hardware/tests/netzteile/corsair_tx550m/s01.php Translate: Klick

www.jonnyguru.com

 

[dirtyferret]

How about a tx550m ?

Good unit and Newegg used to sell them for $39 after MIR. Haven't seen that sale in a while or too many of those units in general. I think Corsair is retiring them for one of the dozen lines they have that start with "RM"

 

[eidairaman1]

As I said before grab the psu from the link I suggested earlier, i did a spec check and it meets the demands of your system.

 

[cucker tarlson]

imo grab this

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079HGL413?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1

$90 for an excellent quality psu,super quiet,10 year warranty.
4.6 out of 5.0 from 2000 ratings.

saving a couple of bucks on a component that is supposed to power the whole pc for a decade is beyond silly.

 

[E-Bear]

I'll look at it thank you

Look lower on that page you also have link for version 4.0 of that chart.

 

[Solid State Soul ( SSS )]

Seasonic or Superflower Only

CWT ?

 

[dirtyferret]

CWT ?

CWT, Delta, flextronics all make excellent PSUs. You then have FSP, enhance, great Wall among others that have quality units out there as well.

 

[hat]

FSP has been known as a reputable brand for a long time. I got one recently, it's doing quite well.

 

[Solid State Soul ( SSS )]

CWT, Delta, flextronics all make excellent PSUs. You then have FSP, enhance, great Wall among others that have quality units out there as well.

I know CWT units have been impressing the hell out of Tom's hardware Aris Mpitziopoulos in the past few years, he even stated that the gold rated category of power supplies is being dominated by Channel Well Technology and Seasonic.

I can understand when people always recommend Seasonic or Superflower, but when its as far as its the only right choice then i have a problem with that as it comes out as fanboy syndrome

 

[dirtyferret]

I know CWT units have been impressing the hell out of Tom's hardware Aris Mpitziopoulos in the past few years, he even stated that the gold rated category of power supplies is being dominated by Channel Well Technology and Seasonic.

I can understand when people always recommend Seasonic or Superflower, but when its as far as its the only right choice then i have a problem with that as it comes out as fanboy syndrome

Channel well has been around for almost three decades. They make PSU for everyone, laptops, gigabyte, zalman, Corsair, among others. They are bigger then seasonic and superflower combined. People give them crap because they make a wide range of PSU from cheap PSU to quality units but that's like saying the Intel 9900k is junk because the Celeron processor is mediocre compared to modern processors.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Is it? There seems to better options out there, no?

Sure it is. I've never had a problem with EVGA PSUs.

EVGA 750N1 750W Power Supply – Page 6 – JonnyGURU.com

www.jonnyguru.com

Interesting review. I don't agree with a few of their conclusions. So do you have a suggestion for a better unit?

 

[8BitZ80]

Zalman was known for making some strong power supplies back in the day. AFAIK they are still in the PSU business but in fairly limited capacity. Most of their products are mainly made for Asian markets while outside regions will only see very limited supply. They are having a hard time getting back into the market as its dominated by so many players that have been in the game for longer and already built their empire. This wouldnt of happened if their parent company tried throw them under the bus when they were going bust but Zalman had to scale back on 90% of the stuff they did.

As for the Aywun. Ive read enough about them to know that youre probably getting 60-70% of the quoted specs and efficiency ratings for the price paid for it, Even when its brand new and freshly unboxed.

People have every reason to be scared away and go with a tried, tested and highly reviewed/recommended brand over an unknown brand which probably only a quarter of the world has heard about and no reviews or information exists other than people on forums telling other people they are bad.

The power supply is the #1 most important thing in your system. Because if that dies, then so could everything else thats hooked up to it because it fries. Electricity isnt anybody's friend. If a power supply cant keep electricity regulated and under control. Then there will be a loud bang and lots of black smoke, maybe even a small fire which then also results in a lot of stress and a costly bill or repairs or replacement parts.

Imagine Propping up your system with a $1300 graphics card and $500 CPU with a $50 aliexpress power supply. Just because it says 750w Bronze doesnt mean anything. Any random joe at home can print out a fancy sticker that says 750w and a load of random specs and slap it on the side of a power supply.

There are certain situations where it might not matter though... For instance if youre building a low powered office rig or machine to do nothing but web browse and media streaming. Because at that point youre not really stressing the power supply.

I can't help but sense there's a lot of exaggeration going on here.

Never heard of power supplies exploding and creating small fires, particularly when there's electrical components called "fuses" that are designed to pop way before any fireworks start happening. Lightning is more likely to cause serious damage/shorts/fires than overloading, but again there's plenty of fuse and circuit breaking technology these days to prevent that.

I've also never heard of anyone putting a $1300 graphics card on a $50 power supply, that's pretty absurd and out of context. I could also remark a similar point: What's stopping Corsair from releasing a $1000 power supply that blows up with 100 watts of load? Nobody can disagree with me that it's a bad idea in THIS situation to buy Corsair power supplies. Doesn't matter if this scenario is highly improbable, idealised and exaggerated, but hey, at least I've successfully placed Corsair in a bad light and put up an indisputable argument to avoid them. See what I mean? Preposterous.

Just in case anyone starts raging, I actually don't have negative opinions of Corsair. Quite the opposite. Especially the RM-series units are good quality and have good features, they're expensive but I bought an RM550 for someone else and thought it was nice. That one's been running for four years and counting.

All I'm saying is that it's not as simple as "common = good and uncommon = bad", because at least from my own experience that idea hasn't held any water. Buyers should definitely be cautious when buying uncommon brands, but they should also be cautious when buying ANY brand! Any brand is capable of making a terrible product! You never know for sure where the next lemon will be coming from. As they say, buyer beware.

 

[Frick]

Seasonic or Superflower Only

Blergh herg this may have been adressed but ... Just no. This is FUD, plain and simple.

I can't help but sense there's a lot of exaggeration going on here.

Never heard of power supplies exploding and creating small fires, particularly when there's electrical components called "fuses" that are designed to pop way before any fireworks start happening. Lightning is more likely to cause serious damage/shorts/fires than overloading, but again there's plenty of fuse and circuit breaking technology these days to prevent that.

Quick note, this can definitely happen still. It isn't likely to happen with brand name units (even the super low end units) but random 700W PSUs you buy off ebay for $15? They can be properly dangerous, and there are still plenty of them around.

 

[8BitZ80]

Quick note, this can definitely happen still. It isn't likely to happen with brand name units (even the super low end units) but random 700W PSUs you buy off ebay for $15? They can be properly dangerous, and there are still plenty of them around.

Well again, no shit. You wouldn't get botox in a remote Indian village where they inject your buttocks with cooking oil, would you?

 

[lexluthermiester]

Never heard of power supplies exploding and creating small fires, particularly when there's electrical components called "fuses" that are designed to pop way before any fireworks start happening.

I can confirm that it does happen. The cause is not always obvious either.

 

[EarthDog]

I don't agree with a few of their conclusions

We'll leave it up to the experts and proper testing versus what we've simply plugged in and used to pass judgement. While I'm sure it will be fine that N series is a bit sketchy according to multiple reputable reviews.

I'm waiting for the OP to list a budget. Did I miss it?

 

[lexluthermiester]

I'm waiting for the OP to list a budget. Did I miss it?

If so, I missed it too.

 

[Frick]

Well again, no shit. You wouldn't get botox in a remote Indian village where they inject your buttocks with cooking oil, would you?

i wouldn't, but others would. People still buy fake Fermi GPUs from ebay.

 

[dirtyferret]

We'll leave it up to the experts and proper testing versus what we've simply plugged in and used to pass judgement. While I'm sure it will be fine that N series is a bit sketchy according to multiple reputable reviews.

I'm waiting for the OP to list a budget. Did I miss it?

If so, I missed it too.

I think the OP is just fishing for a unicorn part (extremely cheap and extremely good)

Never heard of power supplies exploding and creating small fires, particularly when there's electrical components called "fuses" that are designed to pop way before any fireworks start happening.

Diablotek says "hold my beer" with the best PSU customer review ever (most are similar as well)

When the PS went, it also took most of the Mother Board it was attached to with it. After replacing it with a different PS, the PS2 Keyboard & Mouse controller is fried, as is the Internal Network Card. I'm thankful that it did not take the customers network switches/router too. Did I mention the poor receptionist is going to be sending me her laundry bill? Apparently it was quite loud and 'fireworky' (her word) when it blew.

Amazon.com: Diablotek DA Series 350-Watt ATX Power Supply PSDA350: Electronics

Amazon.com: Diablotek DA Series 350-Watt ATX Power Supply PSDA350: Electronics

www.amazon.com

This is a good PSU.

1. Price is too good to be true, it's $35 after MIR on newegg so even cheaper there
2. plenty of amps on the 12v rail but too low for a 750w unit so it's group regulated when every modern unit has been DC-DC for at least a decade.
3. two year warranty tells me cheap fan and parts
4. it's only rated to 25c so I doubt you can even get 750w out of it at 45c and if you do the efficiency has to be crazy bad as I see no 80 plus rating on this unit

Sure it is. I've never had a problem with EVGA PSUs.


Interesting review. I don't agree with a few of their conclusions. So do you have a suggestion for a better unit?

I think OK-wolf was generous with his reviews, those secondary caps are junk and will go on anyone pushing that unit past warranty. You would be better off with a CX550 that provides full power for bronze efficiency at 40c.

Evga has many good units but they don't get enough crap for their junk units. The fact that it seems like every other unit starts with a "G" only makes things more confusing for the market.

I have never had a single issue with Corsair unit but that doesn't mean their first run of CX units were not bad PSU and the second version was hardly better. It took them until the third version (with panasonic main caps) to get a solid budget unit out. Ive also had more issues with Seasonic units then any other oem yet that doesn't mean Seasonic doesn't make great units.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I think the OP is just fishing for a unicorn part (extremely cheap and extremely good)

Perhaps.

1. Price is too good to be true, it's $35 after MIR on newegg so even cheaper there
2. plenty of amps on the 12v rail but too low for a 750w unit so it's group regulated when every modern unit has been DC-DC for at least a decade.
3. two year warranty tells me cheap fan and parts
4. it's only rated to 25c so I doubt you can even get 750w out of it at 45c and if you do the efficiency has to be crazy bad as I see no 80 plus rating on this unit

1. They might be clearing out overstock or getting ready to replace it with a newer model.
2. Let's see a schematic.
3. Most economy/budget models have a 1 year, so 2 years says EVGA has some confidence in their offering. And I'm cool with that.
4. Please review EVGA's spec page. It states "750W @ +25C". Amazon and Newegg misquote that spec. https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=100-N1-0750-L1

I think OK-wolf was generous with his reviews

Let's agree to disagree.

 

[EarthDog]

1. They might be clearing out overstock or getting ready to replace it with a newer model
2. Let's see a schematic.
3. Most economy/budget models have a 1 year, so 2 years says EVGA has some confidence in their offering. And I'm cool with that.
4. Please review EVGA's spec page. It states "750W @ +25C". Amazon and Newegg misquote that spec.

2. What would that tell you? Look at the specifications and look at the amperage on modern PSUs. You'll find most are just a few watts under the label rating on the 12V rail. Surely what is listed is 'enough' and not a big issue, but it isn't what typical modern, quality, 750W PSUs are able to output.
3. Most name brands have 3 year warrantys, no? Corsair CX is three years. Using that thinking, Corsair has more confidence in their less expensive CX line than Evga does with that N series...
4. 25C is nothing. My room IS that warm in the summer (22C now)... 40C+ rating is what you want to see...

I think OK-wolf was generous with his reviews,

Agreed... in most cases the test units get the benefit of the doubt. If he says it's trash or great, it is.

Let's agree to disagree.

You are of course welcome to do this, however, can you support why you feel this way with some details? On one hand, we have a known expert in the field who tested the equipment stating his findings, while OTOH, we have a random forum member who says otherwise without support. Nobody is perfect, OW is human, but without you supporting your assertion, we're left believing the expert until we hear otherwise. So, if you say its a good PSU and disagree, you should really say WHY you actually disagree...

Again, it will work, but there are better units out there for less. As soon as the OP returns and posts a budget, we can dig in a bit deeper. But, that unit isn't "good" according to experts.

 

[dirtyferret]

Perhaps.

1. They might be clearing out overstock or getting ready to replace it with a newer model
2. Let's see a schematic.
3. Most economy/budget models have a 1 year, so 2 years says EVGA has some confidence in their offering. And I'm cool with that.
4. Please review EVGA's spec page. It states "750W @ +25C". Amazon and Newegg misquote that spec. https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=100-N1-0750-L1

Let's agree to disagree.

1. maybe and lets hope they do replace it with a better model. Frankly I think their FSP built GD line is better performance for the price
2. the JG review earthdog linked confirms it as do the 12v/5v coil and 3.3v coil (Aris description on how to spot group regulated)
"But make no mistake… it’s still group regulated, it’s still obsolete technology, and it still isn’t well suited to modern builds"

3. Maybe several years ago but with Corsair's CX line, Evga B3, and Seasonic S12iii all doing bronze @ 40c and five years I would personally not recommend a two year warranty 25c unit to anyone especially if you are building a PC that really needs a 750w unit, as very few do.
4. this is what the evga spec sheet states

Operating Temperature

0° to 25° C

I think OK-wolf says it best in his review.


"can do 750 watts at only 25 degrees? Seriously? That’s a marketing point to you, EVGA? Quite frankly, it’s useless to me. To be brutally blunt, I often see temperatures higher than that in cold testing, where the power supply is sitting out in the open air. Your chances of seeing that number at the power supply in a case is really slim… it would basically have to be on the bottom of the case, pulling from the air underneath, in a room with a low ambient temperature to start with."

And it showed in hot box testing;
"Voltage regulation was beyond mediocre with an average of 11.2% in the hot box, so 2.5 points will come off there"

I respect your opinion, I just don't share it on this product.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

Seasonic or Superflower Only

inb4 the EVGA reference !

Just a reminder: You get what you pay for. So if you get lucky, you got real lucky.

 

[dirtyferret]

3. Most name brands have 3 year warrantys, no? Corsair CX is three years. Using that thinking, Corsair has more confidence in their less

CX is up to five years, even their ultra budget VS line (great for desktops but you can do better for gaming) is 80 plus at 30c with a three year warranty.