How to fail, the CyberPowerPC way

[newtekie1]

That's nuts... If you can't build a PC my guess is you can't overclock either.. WTF is the point of spending money like that on watercooled prebuild.... takes all the fun out of it

That is why they offer pre-overclocked options too.

I don't see a problem with the build. Zip ties are fine by me, as are no clamps if the tubing is tight enough.

It's a fully functional installation, not a show quality one. There's not a rat's nest of wires in the path of airflow or anything.

Show quality takes a lot more time. Time = money in a business like this. You want show quality, you need to pay for the time it takes.

Remeber VooDoo before they were bought out? Their cable management was phenomenal, but they also charged more than most of their other competitors. Cyber charges less than most of their competitors. You get what you pay for in that respect.

That is a very good point, when compared to their competitors CyberPowerPC are the low-end/low-cost options. And I think something else that should be pointed out is that CyberPowerPC gives a 3 year warranty on their computers standard, as well as free lifetime tech support. That is something that you won't find on a lot of other pre-built computers in this class.

 

[Black Panther]

Personally I don't like the zip-ties for watercooling. If I were to go for WC myself I'd use proper metal clamps, stainless-steel ones.

Heck just 4 days ago I opened my pc for cleaning, and a zip-tie holding the wire of the side-case fan broke. It had gotten brittle..

 

[MT Alex]

Three cheers for CyberPowerPC!!

Hip, HIP,...

Ah, no thanks.

 

[eidairaman1]

Personally I don't like the zip-ties for watercooling. If I were to go for WC myself I'd use proper metal clamps, stainless-steel ones.

Heck just 4 days ago I opened my pc for cleaning, and a zip-tie holding the wire of the side-case fan broke. It had gotten brittle..

just like a vehicle, you dont see tubes without clamps in them so why should WC PCs not have them?

 

[m1dg3t]

Cuz it reduces Air Resistance and dust collection.

I know why i cable manage, you don't have to tell me. But thank's for the opportunity of another post

 

[Wile E]

Three cheers for CyberPowerPC!!

Hip, HIP,...

Ah, no thanks.

You're not in their target demographic anyway. These are for the people below us but above a standard user in technical ability.

And I gladly take this type of cable management if it saves me a few bucks. It's a hell of a lot better than most OEMs, and a hell of a lot cheaper than most other boutique builders.

I really don't see why people have issues with this setup.

 

[Beertintedgoggles]

just like a vehicle, you dont see tubes without clamps in them so why should WC PCs not have them?

Lets see, higher pressures and much higher temperatures causing the tubing to expand and become more pliable. PC's do not have those issues to deal with.

 

[newtekie1]

just like a vehicle, you dont see tubes without clamps in them so why should WC PCs not have them?

I've seen quite a few tubes in vehicles without clamps. Usually in non-essential, low pressure, applications(such as windshield waster fluid reservoirs and such).

Though that analogy is pretty flawed. Computers don't get nearly as hot as cars, the tubing doesn't get nearly as flexible due to the heat, and computers are stationary while vehicles move around constantly, vibrate a lot more, and are subjected to sudden impacts(like hitting pot holes and stuff). Whens the last time your computer hit a pot hole?

 

[radrok]

Compression fittings, problem solved

 

[Maelstrom]

Whens the last time your computer hit a pot hole?

Well, this one time at band camp ... yeah, I got nothing .

 

[eidairaman1]

I've seen quite a few tubes in vehicles without clamps. Usually in non-essential, low pressure, applications(such as windshield waster fluid reservoirs and such).

Though that analogy is pretty flawed. Computers don't get nearly as hot as cars, the tubing doesn't get nearly as flexible due to the heat, and computers are stationary while vehicles move around constantly, vibrate a lot more, and are subjected to sudden impacts(like hitting pot holes and stuff). Whens the last time your computer hit a pot hole?

Just sayin anything with a pc with hoses not clamped down can be big trouble when one/many/all lines slip due to the fluid running through

 

[ShiBDiB]

Just sayin anything with a pc with hoses not clamped down can be big trouble when one/many/all lines slip due to the fluid running through

slip due to fluid going thru them? only if the tubing is too big and the seal isnt tight.

This is a troll thread at its best, theirs nothing wrong with the construction outside of nitpicking.

 

[eidairaman1]

slip due to fluid going thru them? only if the tubing is too big and the seal isnt tight.

This is a troll thread at its best, theirs nothing wrong with the construction outside of nitpicking.

Not trolling here at all, just givin how i feel about this, to me it feels like cutting corners...

 

[yogurt_21]

I'm not missing the point at all. I understand that some people take pride in their work, but lets face it CyberPowerPC never has. If they did they wouldn't offer an upcharge for cable management, they would just do it. The then again, at least they offer the upcharge, unlike most other pre-built manufacturers. From my standpoint they did acceptable basic cable management, if you are worried about more then pay for the advanced cable management. It still looks better than most Dells/Alienwares and shit I see.

I call BS.

we have a multi million dollar contract with dell for not just servers but everything, desktops, etc.

You would NEVER and I repeat NEVER see anything like this from Dell.

While it may be "ok" without clamps, clamps would be included were this a dell xps. While it may be "ok" to use zip ties, you would never see zip ties used on a dell xps.

In fact if it were anything short of superior cable management the dell rep would be getting an earful from me.

Sure this is jim bob customer but that is a very expensive prebuilt, not a 500$ budget box. The consumer paid for better and should have gotten better.

Sure if he had paid Motel 6 prices, he shouldn't expect the Ritz Carltons build quality.

But this consumer paid Ritz Carlton prices and got a motel 6 build quality.

Can you sleep safe and sound in a motel 6? Sure, will you settle for that whn you pay Ritz Carlton prices? Hell no!

I know you like being "devils advocate" and all but come on, you act as if we're in mad max times and professionalism is for the weak who'll never survive.

 

[ZenZimZaliben]

Cable Management takes time. Time is money. I would rather my tech knock out two more systems then have OCD on the cable management. If the customer wants it, they pay for it. Obviously a rat nest of cables is unacceptable and should be cleaned up, but not spending hours on it. The goal is to get the computer out the door in working condition.

 

[Wile E]

I call BS.

we have a multi million dollar contract with dell for not just servers but everything, desktops, etc.

You would NEVER and I repeat NEVER see anything like this from Dell.

While it may be "ok" without clamps, clamps would be included were this a dell xps. While it may be "ok" to use zip ties, you would never see zip ties used on a dell xps.

In fact if it were anything short of superior cable management the dell rep would be getting an earful from me.

Sure this is jim bob customer but that is a very expensive prebuilt, not a 500$ budget box. The consumer paid for better and should have gotten better.

Sure if he had paid Motel 6 prices, he shouldn't expect the Ritz Carltons build quality.

But this consumer paid Ritz Carlton prices and got a motel 6 build quality.

Can you sleep safe and sound in a motel 6? Sure, will you settle for that whn you pay Ritz Carlton prices? Hell no!

I know you like being "devils advocate" and all but come on, you act as if we're in mad max times and professionalism is for the weak who'll never survive.

Compare the price of this build to other OEMs with the same components, and you will find this one is cheaper.

I completely disagree with you here. You can't have it both ways, either you pay as much as you would at other OEMs and get top of the line cable management, or you save yourself a few dollars by going to Cyber and opting for run of the mill management instead. That's what this customer did. Opted to save money by not going for the show quality job.

If this build cost as much as the same components from another OEM, you would have a point. But it doesn't. That's the allure of Cyber.

 

[LAN_deRf_HA]

Cable management in Dell's is mindlessly simple. Especially after build number 5,000. The cases are all the same, the wires are always the same length. You find the best spot to zip tie it the first time and you know where to zip tie it every other time. It's not as clean and simple on builds using more varied, retail parts with more shit that needs wired up.

All that said, the picture didn't really show anything wrong with the cable routing anyways. If there's something were not seeing get a better pic.

 

[BlackOmega]

Personally I don't like the zip-ties for watercooling. If I were to go for WC myself I'd use proper metal clamps, stainless-steel ones.

Heck just 4 days ago I opened my pc for cleaning, and a zip-tie holding the wire of the side-case fan broke. It had gotten brittle..

Thats why you dont use the cheap Chinese zip ties --theyre crap. I only buy American made ones since theyre MUCH higher quality. You can tighten them up with pliers theyre so strong. The Chinese ones literally fall apart in my hands.

 

[m1dg3t]

I call BS.

we have a multi million dollar contract with dell for not just servers but everything, desktops, etc.

And this is why Dell goes the extra mile for you, otherwise you'd get standard fare. Install/assemble, test & ship

I still don't see what people are complaining about, are there other pic's posted that i'm not seeing?

 

[Static~Charge]

Just judging by the info we know from the OP, minimum of $3600 based on building the similar system on CyberPowerPC's website, my guess would be closer to $4500.

For that much money, cable management should be S.O.P., not an additional charge. That machine looks like it was assembled by a monkey. :shadedshu

 

[m1dg3t]

That machine looks like it was assembled by a monkey. :shadedshu

It prolly was! the moral of the story is: If you want something done right, do it yourself.