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I'll agree with you, that's likely a real thing.After seeing that ferrite choke dancing around the GPU power cable earlier i can totally see smaller vibrations helping settle in the adhesive.
I'll agree with you, that's likely a real thing.After seeing that ferrite choke dancing around the GPU power cable earlier i can totally see smaller vibrations helping settle in the adhesive.
Processor | 7800X3D |
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Motherboard | ASUS X670E GENE |
Cooling | Custom Water |
Memory | TG 7200 CL34 @ 6400 CL26 |
Video Card(s) | MSI GAMING TRIO 4090 |
You're welcome! Glad it helped!Thanks for sharing this method!
System Name | Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load) |
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Processor | Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core) |
Motherboard | Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded) |
Cooling | Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate |
Memory | 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V) |
Video Card(s) | Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W)) |
Storage | 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2 |
Display(s) | Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144) |
Case | Fractal Design R6 |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic |
Power Supply | Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY) |
Mouse | Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL |
Keyboard | Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps) |
VR HMD | Oculus Rift S + Quest 2 |
Software | Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware! |
Benchmark Scores | Nyooom. |
let us know if it improves over time, as it seems to do so for other peopleJust wanted to report back: Using this method has significantly reduced the coilwhine on my MSI Gaming X Trio 4090. It is not gone, but much better.
Combined with an undervolt, the noise levels are absolutely acceptable now. Thanks for sharing this method!
Processor | 7800X3D |
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Motherboard | ASUS X670E GENE |
Cooling | Custom Water |
Memory | TG 7200 CL34 @ 6400 CL26 |
Video Card(s) | MSI GAMING TRIO 4090 |
oh it's already a month ago I have done the mod (also changed TIM to a kryosheet with great success). Can absolutely confirm it was way better after 2 days passed, maybe even more. Was initially a bit disappointed, but after a bit of waiting I am happy I did this!!let us know if it improves over time, as it seems to do so for other people
System Name | Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load) |
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Processor | Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core) |
Motherboard | Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded) |
Cooling | Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate |
Memory | 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V) |
Video Card(s) | Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W)) |
Storage | 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2 |
Display(s) | Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144) |
Case | Fractal Design R6 |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic |
Power Supply | Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY) |
Mouse | Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL |
Keyboard | Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps) |
VR HMD | Oculus Rift S + Quest 2 |
Software | Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware! |
Benchmark Scores | Nyooom. |
Yes, this was covered a few pages into this thread, with quotes from JonnyGuru (One of the lead PSU designers at Corsair, these days)Is it possible for a PSU to make your graphics card produce coil whine?
Tested multiple GPUs and some had it, others didn't (even same GPU, different manufacturers).
It is. Mussels covered the high points. PSU's can make noise all on their own as well, as can motherboards.Is it possible for a PSU to make your graphics card produce coil whine?
System Name | Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load) |
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Processor | Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core) |
Motherboard | Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded) |
Cooling | Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate |
Memory | 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V) |
Video Card(s) | Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W)) |
Storage | 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2 |
Display(s) | Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144) |
Case | Fractal Design R6 |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic |
Power Supply | Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY) |
Mouse | Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL |
Keyboard | Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps) |
VR HMD | Oculus Rift S + Quest 2 |
Software | Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware! |
Benchmark Scores | Nyooom. |
Yup - best way to explain it is a pump working over-time to counter high demand at the far end (PSU whine) or the PSU/pump providing too much pressure so something squeaks at the far end, as it tries to stay shutIt is. Mussels covered the high points. PSU's can make noise all on their own as well, as can motherboards.
System Name | Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load) |
---|---|
Processor | Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core) |
Motherboard | Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded) |
Cooling | Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate |
Memory | 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V) |
Video Card(s) | Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W)) |
Storage | 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2 |
Display(s) | Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144) |
Case | Fractal Design R6 |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic |
Power Supply | Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY) |
Mouse | Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL |
Keyboard | Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps) |
VR HMD | Oculus Rift S + Quest 2 |
Software | Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware! |
Benchmark Scores | Nyooom. |
Yup, you got the right ones. You did miss that one choke by the right edge of the PCB, but that one isn't likely to be a source of noise. When you start, just remember to take your time and be very careful. Let us know how it goes for you.I just want to make sure I understood the instructions correctly and that I'm gluing the right components. I marked the parts in question with red. Can you please take a look and let me know if I got it right?
Yup, that's a good one and 2oz should be more than enough. You're good to go!To fix the coil whine, I plan to use this specific glue: https://starbond.com/products/super-fast-thin-ca-glue. It has a very low viscosity, which should allow it to seep into all the right places.
I just relized now that i only ordered 2oz(56,7g). is that enough?
System Name | Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load) |
---|---|
Processor | Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core) |
Motherboard | Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded) |
Cooling | Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate |
Memory | 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V) |
Video Card(s) | Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W)) |
Storage | 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2 |
Display(s) | Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144) |
Case | Fractal Design R6 |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic |
Power Supply | Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY) |
Mouse | Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL |
Keyboard | Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps) |
VR HMD | Oculus Rift S + Quest 2 |
Software | Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware! |
Benchmark Scores | Nyooom. |
I've tried using two different PSUs (both SF750), but unfortunately, the coil whine issue persists with both. I even experimented with different ports, and using the end connectors seemed to increase the pitch slightly.The R15's are the most likely cause of the noise, with the R19's second and unlabelled ones on the left far less likely
I'd start with just the R15's, but while you're at it check your power cables and do what you can there - if its a modular PSU, try different ports if there are any, unkink/untwist the cables, use the end connectors and so on.
Turns out 2oz was indeed more than enough. It was a very large bottleYup, you got the right ones. You did miss that one choke by the right edge of the PCB, but that one isn't likely to be a source of noise. When you start, just remember to take your time and be very careful. Let us know how it goes for you.
Yup, that's a good one and 2oz should be more than enough. You're good to go!![]()
I had to wait a few hours for the glue to become less runny. I played some uncapped Diablo 4, where I previously experienced the coil whine. By adjusting the FPS limit, I can changes in the whine's intensityOh and going by that prior report, give the card upto an hour to settle in, then fire it up in some whine-inducing scenario (unigine heavens exit screen with no FPS cap is an easy source of cicada sounds)
Making it squeal before it dries fully seems to help shift it into where it needs to be
System Name | Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load) |
---|---|
Processor | Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core) |
Motherboard | Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded) |
Cooling | Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate |
Memory | 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V) |
Video Card(s) | Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W)) |
Storage | 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2 |
Display(s) | Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144) |
Case | Fractal Design R6 |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic |
Power Supply | Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY) |
Mouse | Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL |
Keyboard | Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps) |
VR HMD | Oculus Rift S + Quest 2 |
Software | Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware! |
Benchmark Scores | Nyooom. |
A second pass might help, but if there wasn't an improvement, a second go likely won't help much if at all. But I could be wrong. It won't hurt anything to try, as long as you don't dump the glue on.Sadly, despite the efforts, the coil whine is still present. I'm going to let it settle for a day. If there is no improvement then I will attempt a second pass this weekend.
As long as they're in good condition(being very careful helps there), they're easily reusable. Feel free to do so.Also, i was wondering about the thermal pads, should i replace them or are they okay to re-use as is?
Sure, cleaning up the little bits from getting all over the place is a good idea.should i remove anything, like some of the pads leftovers?
Super glue applies and cures best in a warmer environments 73F/23C+ is ideal. Any cooler would slow down and inhibit the wicking effect.So any consensus around if it's better to apply a bit pre-heated and warm or cold with a longer dry session!?
That's a good idea.I would think some pre-heating would be ideal for quicker hardening and drying.
Not sure I can agree here. It depends on the glue and the chokes/cards. While I've warned people about dumping glue on, I have also leaned on being generous so that the wicking effect can do it's thing properly.a single drop should be enough for one if not more of these chokes
System Name | Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load) |
---|---|
Processor | Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core) |
Motherboard | Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded) |
Cooling | Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate |
Memory | 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V) |
Video Card(s) | Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W)) |
Storage | 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2 |
Display(s) | Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144) |
Case | Fractal Design R6 |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic |
Power Supply | Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY) |
Mouse | Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL |
Keyboard | Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps) |
VR HMD | Oculus Rift S + Quest 2 |
Software | Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware! |
Benchmark Scores | Nyooom. |
I haven't seen that, I use a lot less and it dries faster. At that point you're coating the PCB and not sealing up the coil or it's covering.Not sure I can agree here. It depends on the glue and the chokes/cards. While I've warned people about dumping glue on, I have also leaned on being generous so that the wicking effect can do it's thing properly.
Fair enough.I've done this to about 6? 7? devices since first seeing this thread including laptop power bricks and phone chargers (undoing my previous barely helping hot glue), and usually need very very little to work.
Hey there! The ones you've circled in red are chokes and are what you apply superglue to. The parts in green are caps or other components and supergluing them is not needed or recommended. Remember to take your time and be careful. No need to rush yourself. Those LR22's that are all close together will require that you inject glue directly in the gap with the choke housing meets the PCB. See below.Hey Guys,
I found this topic some weeks ago, because I was looking for an solution to fix my coilwhine on my new 4090 FE.
I purchased some low viscosity cyanoacrylate-based glue from Amazon, wich really smells like a normal superglue.
Then I thought it is time to void my warranty on this gpu beast.
I would say I have done it the correct way, as it is descripted here in the forum. I sealed the slots completely and didnt use too much.
I immediately had some success. The coil whine was gone almost 70% but not completely. Thanks for that!!!
Unfortunately, I reopended the GPU another 2 times to reapply the superglue on the bottom slots again, to get rid of the last noise,
but it didn't get better, I alsmost think it got worse. Now Im wondering if I maybe should also apply this to other parts on the gpu.
The red marked chokes have to be sealed completely, as I said, I reaplied the glue on all sides three times, so it is pretty unlikely that there is one shoke not sealed.
Im pretty sure that I shouldnt apply it on the capacitors, because they could't fuse if needed, if they where sealed I guess.
But I don't know how all this stuff works, so maybe it could be the mosfets or the Solid Stade Capacitors?
There are a lot of them on the back of the 4090, but I'm not sure what they are, the look like Mosfets.
I am sure that the noise doesnt come from the psu, it definetily comes from the gpu.
Hope you guys can give me some adivce.
At least I can say, the Superglue and the reopening doens't harm my gpu, it works like I never opened it
Thanks and cheers!
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System Name | Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load) |
---|---|
Processor | Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core) |
Motherboard | Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded) |
Cooling | Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate |
Memory | 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V) |
Video Card(s) | Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W)) |
Storage | 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2 |
Display(s) | Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144) |
Case | Fractal Design R6 |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic |
Power Supply | Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY) |
Mouse | Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL |
Keyboard | Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps) |
VR HMD | Oculus Rift S + Quest 2 |
Software | Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware! |
Benchmark Scores | Nyooom. |
Remember to run some load that causes the whine for a while so the heat can dry out the glue fully and let it shift aroundUnfortunately, I reopended the GPU another 2 times to reapply the superglue on the bottom slots again, to get rid of the last noise,
but it didn't get better, I alsmost think it got worse. Now Im wondering if I maybe should also apply this to other parts on the gpu.
MOSFET:
How awesome is that? On my gate a positive potential crawls me, I switch now times merrily Source after Drain through and become however so of conductive, let thus times fully the current through. Let’s go you cardboard noses, open the borders!
anything holding the casing still can help, and holds the coil still WILL help - and that's the wick effect where some gets slurped inside in ways we can't really control.The Lorentz direction is responsible for the mechanical movement in the coil and there is hardly any space inside. So the windings of the coil hit the case and the core, causing the coil whine, which is actually more of a coil cramp.
The same story for me, just received 4090FE, which was lost and found (bought in May) and now it is most loud part of my system, all system watercooled, noticed that then higher FPS - more loud, even on 166FPS (I locked, because have 165Ghz monitor) I hear this weird sound.I was looking for an solution to fix my coilwhine on my new 4090 FE.