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He's been doing that for a while. Look through his video history.

I have not seen one of him showing his face before.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I have not seen one of him showing his face before.

He's been doing it for a few weeks.

 

[Greenslade]

He's been doing it for a few weeks.

Oh that is why ,i have only seen his old ones.

He's been doing it for a few weeks.

What do you think of it?Whats that freezer 13 thing

I think you mean it "fails" to boot?

It could be that it is trying to boot from that new drive, and is hanging up there.

Try pressing the "ESC" key during the POST screen, and select "boot menu", and then select the drive you want to boot from (which should NOT be the new drive). Then it should boot up.

Also, unless you are actually using your drives in a RAID configuration, I recommend changing the setting for your SATA ports in the BIOS to AHCI, instead of RAID -- as that will eliminate some boot overhead.

I hope this helps,

Philip

It was a typo


My build
Motherboard £5
Q6600 Cpu £7
Heatsink Fan £10 or new boxed £13
PSU £4
Adapter £2.50
Case £20
Total cost £48.50 or with the boxed Heatsink £51.50
The eBay PC has the Corsair 600m PSU and GTX460 and am SSD.and BioShock
Remastered installed?
Does not seem much point in me building the PC with the difference of me building it
£13.50 or with the opened not used Heatsink.£10.50 plus the fact I will have to install the Heatsink fan. Have you heard of the Evaluation case?

I think I will go for this instead of building a PC.

 

[Greenslade]

, intel Q6600,
BioShock remastered installed.
*Frontal USB don't seem to work (maybe not connected, or connected wrong ?*
That's the only bad thing I just sawThat,s a good make of PSUThis is £62
My build
Motherboard £5
Q6600 Cpu £7
Heatsink Fan £10 or new boxed £13
PSU £4
Adapter £2.50
Case £20
Total cost £48.50 or with the boxed Heatsink £51.50
The eBay PC has the Corsair 600m PSU and GTX460 and am SSD.and BioShock
Remastered installed?
Does not seem much point in me building the PC with the difference of me building it
£13.50 or with the opened not used Heatsink.£10.50 plus the fact I will have to install the Heatsink fan. Have you heard of the evaluation case?

 

[phreich]

Just curious -- what does this build have to do with HP workstations?

This thread is for discussions related to HP workstations.... you should probably move the discussion for this non-workstation build to another thread....

 

[Greenslade]

Just curious -- what does this build have to do with HP workstations?

This thread is for discussions related to HP workstations.... you should probably move the discussion for this non-workstation build to another thread....

I guess you are right i did not think about putting it on another forum ,I guess i should have put it on the Retro Forum.

 

[386]

Alright I need some help. I have a z440 with a Xeon E5 2640 V3, I have applied the "X99 Turbo Boost Unlock" hack and it runs very well. I want some more single thread performance though than I have however, so I was thinking of getting a 1650 V3 or 1660 V3 and overclocking it, but it looks a bit difficult. Do I really need a liquid cooler for this or can I just get a good air cooler. I also saw that the cooler uses a proprietary connector so could i get an adapter?

 

[lexluthermiester]

Alright I need some help. I have a z440 with a Xeon E5 2640 V3, I have applied the "X99 Turbo Boost Unlock" hack and it runs very well. I want some more single thread performance though than I have however, so I was thinking of getting a 1650 V3 or 1660 V3 and overclocking it, but it looks a bit difficult.

Hey Welcome to TPU! If you're going to go for some OCing in that system(I presume you're going to use ThrottleStop), the 1660v3 is good, the 1680v3 would be a bit better as they're binned better. Avoid the 1650, you lose two cores. 1660v3 or 1680v3 is my advice.

Do I really need a liquid cooler for this or can I just get a good air cooler. I also saw that the cooler uses a proprietary connector so could i get an adapter?

The stock cooler in the Z440 is rated for 165W so as long as you don't go crazy, you can get a decent OC with it. Likely 4ghz with either one of those CPUs.

 

[frigider]

hello Hp owners

thinking of getting a Z440.

will it boot nicely from a PCIe NVMe drive?
or does the PCIe adapter need to have "boot rom"?

oscilating between Z440 and T5810... i know the dell has 825W ..hp 700W but other than that?
i like the design more for Z440 but am i missing something critical?...feature-wise? cooling wise? (hate dell fan curve )

 

[Greenslade]

hello Hp owners

thinking of getting a Z440.

will it boot nicely from a PCIe NVMe drive?
or does the PCIe adapter need to have "boot rom"?

oscilating between Z440 and T5810... i know the dell has 825W ..hp 700W but other than that?
i like the design more for Z440 but am i missing something critical?...feature-wise? cooling wise? (hate dell fan curve )

There good machines i have a Z230 modal.Only trouble with my one and i dare say with the Z440 they have Proprietary psu,s so if you want to put a new PSU in there you have todo a hack job
as you can see in this video.

 

[frigider]

There good machines i have a Z230 modal.Only trouble with my one and i dare say with the Z440 they have Proprietary psu,s so if you want to put a new PSU in there you have todo a hack job
as you can see in this video.

Don't plan on changing PSU
Tx.

 

[Greenslade]

Don't plan on changing PSU
Tx.

700 w is good when it is working when you have to replace it that is another thing.

 

[lexluthermiester]

will it boot nicely from a PCIe NVMe drive?
or does the PCIe adapter need to have "boot rom"?

It needs a boot rom, but will otherwise work fine.

 

[frigider]

It needs a boot rom, but will otherwise work fine.

Thanks.

Another issue (that lead to me getting dell instead):
Read somewhere that the z440 needs the ram cooling shroud if you want to populate all 8 ram dimms.

A local company of refurbished workstations told me so...

But saw a clip with a guy with 8 filled slots and no shroud ..

So does it work without the shroud?
Maybe next i go z440.
Love the industrial design.

 

[Greenslade]

Has anyone heard of a Windows PC not using Realtech? I thought they all did. mine does,t it uses VIA

 

[mplayerMuPDF]

Has anyone heard of a Windows PC not using Realtech? I thought they all did. mine does,t it uses VIA

Windows has nothing to do with it. Most PCs indeed use a Realtek HDA/Azalia chipset but my 645 G1, for example, has an IDT (formerly SigmaTel, at least the audio chipset division) chipset as does my ProBook 6465b. I also have an EliteBook with Conexant (audio chipset division acquired from Analog Devices) chipset. I don't think that there is anything wrong with VIA. AFAIK their chipsets (in general) tend to be pretty good but I don't know about audio specifically.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Read somewhere that the z440 needs the ram cooling shroud if you want to populate all 8 ram dimms.

A local company of refurbished workstations told me so...

But saw a clip with a guy with 8 filled slots and no shroud ..

They're full of it. That HP would run fine without the shroud..

So does it work without the shroud?
Maybe next i go z440.
Love the industrial design.

Yup, it'll be fine.

 

[Greenslade]

Any idea why the front audio want work,see pictures where does that plastic bit go? No broken wires.

 

[frigider]

They're full of it. That HP would run fine without the shroud..

I feel so cheated.
Had a feeling it was just marketing BS...

Next time hp... Next time

 

[Greenslade]

I got he front audio sorted Found out where that plastic bit went, as i have the same case with my Athlon 2400.Here it is my first build, i must say the Cpu fan is nosie yThe only thing is those clips that hold drives in i can,t work out how they work.Not a good design for me.Success at last.

Windows has nothing to do with it. Most PCs indeed use a Realtek HDA/Azalia chipset but my 645 G1, for example, has an IDT (formerly SigmaTel, at least the audio chipset division) chipset as does my ProBook 6465b. I also have an EliteBook with Conexant (audio chipset division acquired from Analog Devices) chipset. I don't think that there is anything wrong with VIA. AFAIK their chipsets (in general) tend to be pretty good but I don't know about audio specifically.

Thanks for the info.one can never stop learning new things

 

[386]

Hey Welcome to TPU! If you're going to go for some OCing in that system(I presume you're going to use ThrottleStop), the 1660v3 is good, the 1680v3 would be a bit better as they're binned better. Avoid the 1650, you lose two cores. 1660v3 or 1680v3 is my advice.

The stock cooler in the Z440 is rated for 165W so as long as you don't go crazy, you can get a decent OC with it. Likely 4ghz with either one of those CPUs.

I got the CPU now and I just am barely able to get it to run at 4ghz. Im using ThrottleStop 8.7 (that one actually affects the cpu in this system) and I have to increase voltage to like 1.17 for it to not instantly BSOD at 4ghz, haven't gotten it to go higher.

When Im using throttlestop, do I adjust the default voltage or voltage offset to be safe?

 

[Greenslade]

They're full of it. That HP would run fine without the shroud..


Yup, it'll be fine.

I just went to pick up this MSI B150 PRO VHD the guy said it came with a i/o Shield then he said he would send me a picture i wondered why that was as i had all ready seen the pictures of it, i said i did not have a smart phone.Then he told me he did not have the I/O Shield.And said it would be £10 instead of £15 then he said you can have it free if you put the money to a smart phone.He was a Asian guy, i thought that was a very nice thing to do .Now i looked on eBay and saw the over the top prices there charging just for an I.O Shield the cheapest was £10As i got the board for free i might buy one.As regards the Retro £5 one i showed you Lex, He could not say if it works or not ,but he did say i could do a bundle and give you a large discount.He has a case on there that he said had the board in it.So i take it he means the case and motherboard.
He just got back to me and said*plus all graphics cards and sound cards for free*
He has the case for £7.I got back to him and hope he has a nice soundcard in the deal.I can bur hope. He is saying £10 for the case motherboard and the other stuff he is throwing in.

This is the case of GeForce4 mx4000 and the motherboard for £10 I get the impression , it is not going to work. if it did why did he not leave it in the case? I could ask if he will take £4 for the mother board.

 

[lexluthermiester]

When Im using throttlestop, do I adjust the default voltage or voltage offset to be safe?

I don't currently have an HP system, you should be ok either way as long as the load voltage ends up where you are setting the target. As mentioned in the TS thread, that CPU and system will be fine at 4.2ghz on 1.2v or even 1.21v 24/7.

 

[spenumut]

I have a z440 with the 700w PSU, 2690v4, 4x16GB DDR4 2133mhz, an NVME SSD on a pci-e adapter, 4 various Samsung SATA SSDs and a RX 6600XT. So far I am happy with it and it's an upgrade over my previous z77 platform and all and in it only cost me $235 for everything because I already had storage and GPU.

Anyone know the highest TDP chip these boards will take?

 

[Greenslade]

I have a z440 with the 700w PSU, 2690v4, 4x16GB DDR4 2133mhz, an NVME SSD on a pci-e adapter, 4 various Samsung SATA SSDs and a RX 6600XT. So far I am happy with it and it's an upgrade over my previous z77 platform and all and in it only cost me $235 for everything because I already had storage and GPU.

Anyone know the highest TDP chip these boards will take?

I have just looked on HP ,s site and this is what someone said
As the system already has a E5-1650 v3, consider trying the overclocking before changing. However, as mentioned, 4.7GHz suggests a special cooling solution, perhaps even a custom open loop as out Forum friend uses in a z620. Both office systems here overclock Xeon E5-1650 v2 and Xeon E5-1680 v2 in z420 V2 and z620 V2 using the AIO z420 liquid cooler:
If you have the E5 1650 V3 .it is a very good CPUi. I am putting a e3 1246 v3 in my second build which is a good CPU but yours is better than mine.
Hope that helps.