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[TARDIS]

Hi all, new to owning a Z620 and looking at upgrading storage. Plan is to install a couple of PCIe M.2 adapter cards and two NVMe SSDs - 1TB for OS and apps, and 500GB for scratch. System will be used for GIS/mapping, photo and video editing. Specs are 2011 build Z620, E5-1650v0 3.2 cpu, 32GB RAM, 1TB hdd, NVIDIA Quadro K2000.

My question is will the Z620 with this cpu support NVMe by PCIe M.2 adapter and at what speed?

One dealer suggested only PCIe 2.0 only and I would be just as well off installing a 2.5" SATA SSD and saving money. Obviously I would prefer the speed of the NVMe SSD.

Any help would be appreciated.

cheers, Pete

 

[Samiam66]

Tarvis

You wont be able to boot from m.2 drive ..the UEFI Bios wont look for it
as for storage that shouldnt be a issue

• Edwired
• lexluthermiester

Please correct me if im wrong

although i did find this

SM951 M.2 SSD in a HP Z620

Hi all, my first post on this forum. Not so much a question but rather some possible helpful information regarding the newer style M.2 SSD cards around with regards to the HP Z620 workstation. I recently purchased a 256GB Samsung SM951 MZHPV256HDGL-00000 PCI Express M.2 hard drive module to...

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Sam

 

[TARDIS]

Tarvis

You wont be able to boot from m.2 drive ..the UEFI Bios wont look for it
as for storage that shouldnt be a issue

• Edwired
• lexluthermiester

Please correct me if im wrong

although i did find this

SM951 M.2 SSD in a HP Z620

Hi all, my first post on this forum. Not so much a question but rather some possible helpful information regarding the newer style M.2 SSD cards around with regards to the HP Z620 workstation. I recently purchased a 256GB Samsung SM951 MZHPV256HDGL-00000 PCI Express M.2 hard drive module to...

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Sam

Thanks Sam.
I have seen conflicting information which is why I was asking before ordering the parts. Some posts agree with what you have said, whereas others suggest that after a bios update they can boot from M.2 NVMe over PCIe. I have updated to the latest bios (details at home) and hoping another user has some experience that can help.

thanks, Pete

 

[juiseman]

if your boot block BIOS is 2013, with the latest update. it should support NVME

Z620 M2 NVME support in bios update

Hello All, Thanks for all the tips and tricks I've viewed and used so far. Mostly getting the boot block date current so I could use the V2 Xeon's!! Much appreciated!! :) Hoping HP might update bios to support the Z Turbo G2's in the future! I'm mean the G1 is OK, But with the lastest CPU...

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[TARDIS]

if your boot block BIOS is 2013, with the latest update. it should support NVME

Z620 M2 NVME support in bios update

Hello All, Thanks for all the tips and tricks I've viewed and used so far. Mostly getting the boot block date current so I could use the V2 Xeon's!! Much appreciated!! :) Hoping HP might update bios to support the Z Turbo G2's in the future! I'm mean the G1 is OK, But with the lastest CPU...

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Hi juisenab, and thanks.
This is my bios as per HP performance Advisor (see below). If I'm right, this should work?
Many thanks, Pete

 

[juiseman]

I think your good, can you go to your bios and check the boot block date? should say 2011 or 2013...

From memory, i'm sure the 2013 will work; I own some Z420's (they use the same BIOS)

 

[TARDIS]

Well, apparently still on 2011 block. How do I update it? Can I update it?

 

[Noxman]

Hi,

I just got the Z600 v2 and I want the best CPU for it. Is it possible to put a W3690 in it with the 130W cooler?
Ive googled and got very mixed results. Im not interested in X series, cause i dont need the 2nd slot, and i found the W3690 at a good price.

 

[Lolless]

Hello everyone this is my beast of a machine... Its a HP z420 with an e5-2667 v2 processor, 64gb ram, nvidia 1080 founders edition gpu, a 1tb samsung ssd, and a seasonice 750w 80+ gold psu. now i have a question i have been looking at a different processor e5-2697 and am wondering if it will work in the z420?

 

[Mr Bill]

Hello everyone this is my beast of a machine... Its a HP z420 with an e5-2667 v2 processor, 64gb ram, nvidia 1080 founders edition gpu, a 1tb samsung ssd, and a seasonice 750w 80+ gold psu. now i have a question i have been looking at a different processor e5-2697 and am wondering if it will work in the z420?

Sweet! they could probably use that to operate the Space Shuttle, nice machine.

 

[Caring1]

Hello everyone this is my beast of a machine... Its a HP z420 with an e5-2667 v2 processor, 64gb ram, nvidia 1080 founders edition gpu, a 1tb samsung ssd, and a seasonice 750w 80+ gold psu. now i have a question i have been looking at a different processor e5-2697 and am wondering if it will work in the z420?

Have you checked the compatibility list at HP?
I doubt it will work unless it is a V2 also.

 

[Peter Lindgren]

I have a Z420 and replaced the CPU with a 2696v2 and it works fine with stock cooler. So 2697v2 will work as well.

 

[juiseman]

Hi,

I just got the Z600 v2 and I want the best CPU for it. Is it possible to put a W3690 in it with the 130W cooler?
Ive googled and got very mixed results. Im not interested in X series, cause i dont need the 2nd slot, and i found the W3690 at a good price.

Z600 with dual X5680 CPU

Hey there! I got a later spec Z600 WS here that came with dual X5650 (TDP 95W). I made a good deal and got two X5680 (TDP 130W), and tryed to install those to the WS. System tells me, that the CPU installed needs too much power, and the System got halted. Is it a Problem with the Heatsink...

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I'm not seeing any good info either. A w3690 would be cool because the CPU is unlocked.

I don't see any benchmarks for the 3690 in the Z600, highest is x5675. I know the W3690 will work in a Z400v2

It may be possible that the socket is limited to 1 or 2 95W CPU's only.

z600 - Geekbench Search - Geekbench

 

[Mr Bill]

Z600 with dual X5680 CPU

Hey there! I got a later spec Z600 WS here that came with dual X5650 (TDP 95W). I made a good deal and got two X5680 (TDP 130W), and tryed to install those to the WS. System tells me, that the CPU installed needs too much power, and the System got halted. Is it a Problem with the Heatsink...

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I'm not seeing any good info either. A w3690 would be cool because the CPU is unlocked.

I don't see any benchmarks for the 3690 in the Z600, highest is x5675. I know the W3690 will work in a Z400v2

It may be possible that the socket is limited to 1 or 2 95W CPU's only.

z600 - Geekbench Search - Geekbench

Go here and pick the processor you would like to use, and half way down the page on the right it will give you some popular comparisons. It might even have the info you're looking for on that site, also they ask you to let the ads run on that page, no big deal compared to the abundance of information this person has put together.

http://www.cpu-world.com/info/Intel/Intel_Xeon.html

 

[Noxman]

I changed my mind and actually gonna buy two x5675. Gonna use them for some folding and server stuff (learning etc).

Its the easiest way, and I will be happy anyway.

 

[juiseman]

That is a good plan, if you look at the single core difference; its not that much, I'd rather have 2x 5675 myself as I do production stuff.

Plus, you can fit a decent amount of RAM and drives in the Z600's.

I'm always on the hunt for good prices on Z420's and Z440's. I've found some great deals; pretty much just put an upgraded SSD and CPU and you get a complete computer for $150-$200...you can beat that. I will say that these new Zen 3 CPU's are going to be pretty powerful; so that lowers the price vs performance a little of these used workstations; but I see a lot of value still But you don't need all that for general computing.

 

[sepheronx]

Hey guys.

I just picked up a HP Z420 with a 1620v2 cpu.

Issue is, it has 16gb of RAM but only 2x8gb sticks. Is there no way to run it in dual channel? Otherwise it was set to single channel.

Edit: NVM, figured it out. The memory configuration on the board vs what manual says was different. Got it working.

 

[silentbogo]

I just picked up a HP Z420 with a 1620v2 cpu.

Issue is, it has 16gb of RAM but only 2x8gb sticks. Is there no way to run it in dual channel? Otherwise it was set to single channel.

Just follow the HP official docs

http://ntsizing.external.hp.com/drvlib/docs/Z420_Memory_Configurations.pdf

Well, apparently still on 2011 block. How do I update it? Can I update it?

Only via external flash programmer. I'm not sure if header can be updated via fpt. Did it on my Z620 few months ago. I don't have an Ivy Bridge EP CPU to test it with, but that wasn't my main priority.
I've spliced together a firmware based off Z420v2, and added NVME module. If you wanna risk it, just buy any cheap SPI flash programmer with 300-mil socket, and PM me for binary. You'll need to desolder and solder it back afterwards, so the hot air rework station is a must.

 

[sepheronx]

Just follow the HP official docs

http://ntsizing.external.hp.com/drvlib/docs/Z420_Memory_Configurations.pdf

Only via external flash programmer. I'm not sure if header can be updated via fpt. Did it on my Z620 few months ago. I don't have an Ivy Bridge EP CPU to test it with, but that wasn't my main priority.
I've spliced together a firmware based off Z420v2, and added NVME module. If you wanna risk it, just buy any cheap SPI flash programmer with 300-mil socket, and PM me for binary. You'll need to desolder and solder it back afterwards, so the hot air rework station is a must.

Thanks. Yeah I did check the docs and the ram slots shown on the board mentioned in the doc vs mine was different. But otherwise, got it working. Now need 2x8gb ddr3 1866 more ram (it was what it's got now) for quad channel.

 

[silverchair]

Hi everyone,

Looking for a specific SD card reader for my 800 G1 USDT retro pc console build for a fair price. The part number is HP 742719-001. There is one on ebay listed as brand new for 60 pounds, which is ridiculous for a 10 year old machine. Clearly I don't require a brand new part, if someone has one laying around, would appreciate if he pings me.

Thanks!

 

[Caring1]

Hi everyone,

Looking for a specific SD card reader for my 800 G1 USDT retro pc console build for a fair price. The part number is HP 742719-001. There is one on ebay listed as brand new for 60 pounds, which is ridiculous for a 10 year old machine. Clearly I don't require a brand new part, if someone has one laying around, would appreciate if he pings me.

Thanks!

Generic parts are a lot cheaper, if you require specific OEM parts then you have to pay what you have to pay, especially for an original retro build.

 

[xman2007]

Just bought a HP z400 for under £60 shipped, its got a Xeon W3520, 8gb DDR3, 1tb, gt640. I'm probably going to buy a W3570 for it unless it will take a 6 core though I'm not sure it will. I'll be putting in a 1060/570 and this will replace my sons sff i3 2c4t gt 1030 sff rig. I'll probably upgrade the ram to 12gb (4GBx3) and throw in his 120gb ssd for Windows and 500gb hdd for 1.5tb space. I think I can recoup the cost of a new gpu or most of it from the sale of his old pc and the gt640 though that might come in handy as a spare. All in all its a great deal for the price. Count me in to the clubhouse

Couple of questions, is this standard ATX size motherboard or proprietry? same with the PSU, standard 24pin ATX and 4pin CPU or proprietry? as it would be good to swap out the PSU and change the case.

 

[juiseman]

Look at the ram slots; the v2 Z400 should have 6, if it only has 4 ram slots then 3500's series is all it will take as far as I'm aware.

looks like you can go upto a W3580 in the v1 z400.

Xeon W5590 or W3580 for HP Z400?

I want to upgrade my Z400 to something with a higher clock speed than the current W3530. Both the W5590 and W3580 appear to have the same speed, but how is one different from the other in terms of overall performance and compatibility with my system? (I have the Z400 v2 with 6 RAM slots)

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[silentbogo]

Couple of questions, is this standard ATX size motherboard or proprietry? same with the PSU, standard 24pin ATX and 4pin CPU or proprietry? as it would be good to swap out the PSU and change the case.

Motherboard size is standard ATX. PSU is the problem - it's custom 24-pin, not the standard ATX.

You can buy an aftermarket adapter or mod your PSU cabling. It's much easier than on newer HP workstations, casue it still uses +5VSB and it's very close to regular ATX. Just need to switch a few wires, no active parts required.
-5V is not used in most new PSUs (if it is - you can just cut that wire and put a jumper to the nearest ground). The only thing you need to mod, is a pair of pins on a +4 section of ATX connector.

 

[xman2007]

Look at the ram slots; the v2 Z400 should have 6, if it only has 4 ram slots then 3500's series is all it will take as far as I'm aware.

looks like you can go upto a W3580 in the v1 z400.

Xeon W5590 or W3580 for HP Z400?

I want to upgrade my Z400 to something with a higher clock speed than the current W3530. Both the W5590 and W3580 appear to have the same speed, but how is one different from the other in terms of overall performance and compatibility with my system? (I have the Z400 v2 with 6 RAM slots)

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Hey, I have only just seen this reply, guess I should watch the thread to get notifications.

I haven't received the Z400 yet, it's in transit so should be here tomorrow, hopefully it will be the V2, it's odd it's based on the x58 chipset and comes with 4 DIMMs.

also came across this post on HP forums and hopefully I can throw an x5687 or better CPU into it

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Motherboard size is standard ATX. PSU is the problem - it's custom 24-pin, not the standard ATX.

You can buy an aftermarket adapter or mod your PSU cabling. It's much easier than on newer HP workstations, casue it still uses +5VSB and it's very close to regular ATX. Just need to switch a few wires, no active parts required.
-5V is not used in most new PSUs (if it is - you can just cut that wire and put a jumper to the nearest ground). The only thing you need to mod, is a pair of pins on a +4 section of ATX connector.

Thanks, I've found this https://www.moddiy.com/products/ATX...dard-ATX-Pinout-Main-Power-Adapter-Cable.html

Can't find too many more of these anywhere, non on amazon UK or ebay, though they do ship worldwide for free so that's not a bad price imo.