Hynix A or M die for "futureproofed" AM5 build?

[A Computer Guy]

Here is Intels list. You can utilize this to see exactly what cpus support ECC.

Intel product specifications

Intel® product specifications, features and compatibility quick reference guide and code name decoder. Compare products including processors, desktop boards, server products and networking products.

www.intel.com

Unfortunately, it doesn't look to go as far back and cover socket 775.

Keep clicking show more.

It ends at 2007. All xeons only. No i5s. No i7s. No extreme chips. (For that time period)

CPU must have ECC support code embedded. Back then, it wasn't on desktop. Doesn't matter where the memory controller is loacted.

I did my research and built that system back in 2009 so that gave me about 2yrs worth of history to research to look at for that CPU when building my system at the time including online forums and such. I wasn't pioneering anything new and was following in others footsteps in building an ECC ram capable system. I don't know what else to say to convince you other than maybe screen shots of BIOS and POST screens showing the motherboard recognized and overclocked the ECC ram. Q6600 is a Kentsfield core rebranded Xeon chip to the best of what I remember. Intel has a history of select non-Xeon chips that could support ECC. Otherwise we will have to agree to disagree.

Today, they do offer registered ECC support on just about everything.

You have previously asserted incorrect statements about registered vs. unregistered memory. AM4/AM5 to my knowledge only supports unregistered ECC. If you want to use registered ECC you need an EPYC chip or Threadripper PRO. Having said that there are quite a variety of chips out there so ultimately you have to look at specific chip support as the memory controller is on the chip for modern CPU's, per the list I made item #1 don't rely on anyone's blanket statements research the parts you intend to use.

The claims where, to point out...
You didn't really overclock past ECC JEDEC.

What you said doesn't make sense. A memory overclock is when your run your ram out of spec (typically increasing frequency or lowing timings) JEDEC or not doesn't matter. JEDEC specs change over time as new capability emerge. I had/have overclocks on my ram as described that's fact.

Q6600 doesn't support ECC.

Again I did my research back in 2009. Q6600 is a Kentsfield core rebranded Xeon chip to the best of what I remember. When paired with X38 it seemed to be recognized by BIOS and when the a ram module did start to fail the system failed as expected with a reboot (instead of silently corrupting my system or presenting BSOD's) until I removed the bad module after nearly 10 years of 24/7 operation. As far as I'm concerned it worked and it worked as expected.

Maybe OCCT burn in shows memory errors, but the system doesn't halt or crash, but doesn't mean it's showing single bit errors either. Cause I am not sure that part.

My understanding has been in the event of an uncorrectable error with ECC memory the system is supposed to halt or reboot.

But you do make good points that I don't have the data to disprove.

Thanks

 

[Chrispy_]

I'm a bit late to this thread but why wouldn't you just get generic DDR5-6000 CL28 which is dirt cheap? All of the memory scaling articles I've read and watched say that low-latency DDR5-6000 is basically within margin-of-error at the top of the performance charts alongside everything costing twice as much. There is no point in buying expensive RAM for AM5, it's not a platform that rewards ultra-high speed RAM.

I'm running a basic Corsair Vengeance 6000-CL30 EXPO kit which was about a 4% price increase over the cheapest DDR5 5200 that I could find on sale anywhere. It's bargain bin memory and all the articles I've read say it's "optimal". If I had money to throw around, I'd throw it at something far more meaningful than RAM.

 

[azrael]

Could a mod please close this thread? I feel it's gotten too derailed at this point. Thanks again for the useful information before that.

 

[ShrimpBrime]

You have previously asserted incorrect statements about registered vs. unregistered memory. AM4/AM5 to my knowledge only supports unregistered ECC. If you want to use registered ECC you need an EPYC chip or Threadripper PRO. Having said that there are quite a variety of chips out there so ultimately you have to look at specific chip support as the memory controller is on the chip for modern CPU's, per the list I made item #1 don't rely on anyone's blanket statements research the parts you intend to use.



Thanks

To avoid further slight curve of thread topic about the older hardware, let's utilize just this portion. The rest, we can go over in PM if you like.

I have underlined exactly what I am trying to convey otherwise, no matter what platform.

 

[A Computer Guy]

To avoid further slight curve of thread topic about the older hardware, let's utilize just this portion. The rest, we can go over in PM if you like.

I have underlined exactly what I am trying to convey otherwise, no matter what platform.

I'm satisfied with my responses and see no need to carry on unless you want to create a new let's talk about ECC thread.

 

[ShrimpBrime]

I'm satisfied with my responses and see no need to carry on unless you want to create a new let's talk about ECC thread.

Nah, I enjoyed your responses also and satisfied.

I think we covered it well. I have registered ram pulled from a ddr2 server. I can safely say it didn't clock well, which I think is the focus actually.

 

[ir_cow]

At this point I agree the tread should be closed. The Op is just attacking anyone who disagrees, so what is the point in having a discussion?