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I am so done with this bs. I am returning my ram again, should I pay more for b-die ...?

phill

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Yes thanks

Jesus christ I just returned them and the vendor noticed one of the sticks had a different serial number for some obscure reason

Unlucky as hell
Did you manage to get a full refund ok? :)
 

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It appears that people are doing just fine with hynix dies, and I shouldn't pay more for a b-die
Yep, I currently use Trident Z RGB 3600 with a R7 3700X, I can either use it with XMP, or like now with 3600 & tuned timings, or at 3800 with the same XMP settings and a mild voltage increase. (It's Hynix RAM)
 
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phill

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Benchmark Scores I've actually never benched it!! Too busy with WCG and FAH and not gaming! :( :( Not OC'd it!! :(
I went with cheap memory really, I'm not after benchmark scores or to be in the top 1% of all 3900X's... I just went with a 32GB kit, that was at least 3200MHz.. To be honest, I never even checked the compatibility list for the RAM.... Kinda lucky there I guess :)
 

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I am looking for a new kit, a 2x16 3200 cas 16

There is this kit from g.skill in my local store : F4-3200C16D-32GTZRX

The weird thing is that they appear to be compatible with the msi unify in g.skill website (https://www.gskill.com/configurator?page=2&cls=1529635169&adSearch2=Capacity§32GB (16GBx2),Tested_Speed§3200MHz,&manufacturer=1524715120&chipset=1562635032&model=1574992697)

BUT they don't appear in the compatibility list on msi website : https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/MEG-X570-UNIFY#support-mem-19
It will probably work. And it's a good choice going with that, instead of overly expensive Ram that costs more than the CPU itself.
 
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I'm running a 3700X on an Asus x570-E using Corsair 3600Mhz Ram (Vengenance RGB) with no issues out of the box. Just buy the one with Ryzen compatibility (pic of Ryzen on the box) or check here https://www.corsair.com/us/en/RyzenCompatibility. The product description should say 'AMD Ryzen Memory Kit" on it.
 
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I am looking for a new kit, a 2x16 3200 cas 16

There is this kit from g.skill in my local store : F4-3200C16D-32GTZRX

The weird thing is that they appear to be compatible with the msi unify in g.skill website (https://www.gskill.com/configurator?page=2&cls=1529635169&adSearch2=Capacity§32GB (16GBx2),Tested_Speed§3200MHz,&manufacturer=1524715120&chipset=1562635032&model=1574992697)

BUT they don't appear in the compatibility list on msi website : https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/MEG-X570-UNIFY#support-mem-19
This is because the memory makers have their own QVL.
As I've pointed out elsewhere, the QVL's should only be considered to be guidance, as we don't know what the full system spec is.

For example, in your case, you couldn't get some RAM that should work at a certain speed to work at said speed, but it might've worked fine with say a 3900X at those same clocks. This has, as has been explained here, something to do with the binning of various SKUs and small differences in manufacturing quality. As such, not all chips are made the same and a combination of worst case parts, means you're not going to end up with the same clocks speeds as someone else.

Anything outside of the actual manufacturers specifications, in this case, mainly the CPU, shouldn't be taken as a given, but rather as a bonus if it's possible.
 
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Shrugs, I built a 3600x last Dec, and it ran Trident Z 3600mhz/c16/1800 Fabric clock no problem.
3600X is guaranteed to run 1800 FCLK, it's binned silicon for high clockspeeds
3600 is only guaranteed to run 1600 FCLK.
 
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