I interpret the 5000 series like this.

[TumbleGeorge]

Extraordinary and unnecessary, with many twists and turns under every curve, complicating the approach to justify the upcoming ranking and evaluation of the next generation of consumer graphics cards with the Nvidia logo.

 

[tugrul_SIMD]

Despite price hike, the GFLOPS/$ has increased. This is good for CUDA/GPGPU. RTX4070 computes game-of-life algorithm for a 32k x 32k map in less than 7 milliseconds, decompresses a DNA sequence at 125GB/s throughput and renders Mona Lisa portrait using randomly placed circles in 1-2 minutes with a genetic algorithm.

 

[AusWolf]

The way I see it is this:

5090: actually a Titan (I agree with you there).
5080: a glorified 4080 Super-Super.
5070 and below: It's too early to think anything, imo.

 

[tugrul_SIMD]

It's good to have fastest memory on 5080. With 10% extra overclock, it would be beyond 1TB/s and make any GPU-overclock scale much better than 4080. The whole line gets memory bandwidth boost so whole series will get better GPU oc scaling even without VRAM-oc. But probably 5070ti won't oc as good as 5080 because of binning/cropping/segment positioning/TDP.

Also 5090 should be blower-design because a lot of heat going into pc case will not be healthy for components. RAM could become unstable for example.

 

[rusty caterpillar]

As an ex flagship user..

For long term use, flagships are the way to fly I think.

Just looking back at my GTX8800, GTX295, GTX285, GTX580, those cards got some good life.

But then you have 1080Ti that broke the modern mold until RTX4090.. almost called it a 4890 because wth Nvidia.

30 and 40 series for me was in the midrange.. so no comment there

I had back in time a BFG GTX 275 and was very close in benchmarks to my friends BFG GTX 285. Was a solid card specially with the Arctic 3 fans cooler.

Seems that 5070 will have only 192 TMUs while 1080 Ti got 224 TMUs. Still maybe 5070 will be an upgrade and hopefully a valid card for 1440P and no stutters. If you are to disable the the future DLSS 4.0 for being to blurry or not supported properly in some titles than hope for the best the raw power of 5070 will suffice for 1440P.

As for VRAM at only 192 bit vs 352 bit 5070 will have around 672.2 GB/s vs 484 GB/s of 1080 Ti from this point of view maybe 5070@ 1440 P will be fine.
However TMUs specs are quiet a blow.

 

[tugrul_SIMD]

Less TMUs but higher frequency and optimized datapaths. Also dont forget that a faster memory should be backed by even faster L2 cache or L3 with probably even better compression.

 

[dgianstefani]

Those mocking the "0.01%" who buy xx90 as irrevelant, yet the 30/4090 are both still much higher on the Steam charts than Radeon cards lol.

For the spec, 5090 is a very good deal. Proof in the pudding is even the AMD fanbois who saw the leaked specs thought it would be $3k+.

 

[tugrul_SIMD]

5080 is good too. 25% more raw performance for less price. Or quad performance on dlss4.

 

[Vya Domus]

For the spec, 5090 is a very good deal. Proof in the pudding is even the AMD fanbois who saw the leaked specs thought it would be $3k+.

Yeah dude totally, it's not because Nvidia has increased prices for every generation in the last decade and everyone was expecting yet another massive price hike (which happened), it's because uhm, *checks notes" AMD fanboys thought it was going to be one bajillion dollars.

 

[Hankieroseman]

Yeah dude totally, it's not because Nvidia has increased prices for every generation in the last decade and everyone was expecting yet another massive price hike (which happened), it's because uhm, *checks notes" AMD fanboys thought it was going to be one bajillion dollars.

But I'm a RYZEN 7&9 Fanboy! 9950X3D or BUST! GeForce Forever!

 

[dgianstefani]

Yeah dude totally, it's not because Nvidia has increased prices for every generation in the last decade and everyone was expecting yet another massive price hike (which happened), it's because uhm, *checks notes" AMD fanboys thought it was going to be one bajillion dollars.

Sure bud. Meanwhile in the real world prices reduced from 40 series to 50 series, besides the Titan 5090, which went up less than inflation did, and matches the two generation old 3090 Ti, despite there literally being no competition to even the 4090.

But keep up the contratrian posts lmao, hope it brings you happiness or something? IDK. I'm assuming there's a point to them.

I interpret these prices as NV going for 95%+ marketshare.

 

[Vya Domus]

Meanwhile in the real world prices reduced from 40 series to 50 series, besides the Titan 5090

Like someone else said in another thread the 5080 is a nothing burger, it's "officially" no more expensive than a 4080 Super because it's barely any faster than a 4080 Super. By the way, 4090 and 4080 Super still regularly sell for way more than MSRP and so will the 40 series cards, you are kidding yourself if you think these things will ever be cheaper than their predecessors.

Nvidia fanboys straight up living on a different planet.

 

[dgianstefani]

Question is will we see a repeat of the super refresh Ada gen had with another price drop and perhaps 3 GB modules.

Like someone else said in another thread the 5080 is a nothing burger, it's "officially" no more expensive than a 4080 Super because it's barely any faster than a 4080 Super. By the way, 4090 and 4080 Super still regularly sell for way more than MSRP and so will the 40 series cards, you are kidding yourself if you think these things will ever be cheaper than their predecessors.

Nvidia fanboys straight up living on a different planet.

Checking PCPartPicker shows a multitude of cards not just at but below MSRP, so try to make a post without your imagination being the source of facts if you can.

As for 5080 "barely" being faster than 4080, even if the architecture was identical that wouldn't be possible with the specs and TDP bump.

 

[Vya Domus]

Checking PCPartPicker shows

No.

Price history chart from the site you mentioned shows 4080 Super was hardly ever being sold at MSRP and almost never below and neither will the 5080.

 

[dgianstefani]

No.

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Price history chart from the site you mentioned shows 4080 Super was hardly ever being sold at MSRP and almost never below and neither will the 5080.

Even on my phone I can see plenty at or below $1000. Consumers also choosing premium AIB doesn't prove anything. At any point since release I could have bought a 4080S at or below MSRP.

 

[tugrul_SIMD]

20% bonus is not barely. It is what makes 50fps reach 60fps.

 

[Vya Domus]

Get a better phone :

The site says the black line is the average price, if there ever were 4080 Super that sold below MSRP it's obvious it was in miniscule numbers, most people bought this card for more than MSRP, those are the real world prices you speak of.

 

[dgianstefani]

Get a better phone :

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The site says the black line is the average price, if there ever were 4080 Super that sold below MSRP it's obvious it was in miniscule numbers, most people bought this card for more than MSRP, those are the real world prices you speak of.

Pointless talking with you as usual, beyond demonstrating to readers who might not know better what reality actually is, goalposts keep moving and as deceptive as ever. Which is it? "They'll never be cheaper than predecessors" or "wait, you could actually choose to buy at or below MSRP but not everyone did"?

These "miniscule numbers", so still 10x the volume of the competition then?

 

[Vya Domus]

Of course bro, delusional me proving you wrong using your own sources. Of course everyone could buy a 4080 Super for below MSRP, they just chose not to because they were stupid and not because the vast majority of stock wasn't made available at those prices.

Another high IQ discourse with my beloved TPU Proofreader.

 

[dgianstefani]

Of course bro, delusional me proving you wrong using your own sources.

Another high IQ discourse with my beloved TPU Proofreader.

Proving? Lmao. I said you can buy at or below MSRP since release and that is a fact. You not liking that fact is irrelevant. As is consumers not always going for the MSRP model, choosing something more premium.

 

[Vya Domus]

I once found a penny on the side walk, therefore 1 penny = free, this means everyone can get 1 penny for free.

Hm, yes, I am very smart.

 

[dgianstefani]

The currently in stock $960 4080S at Walmart surely is hard to find for Vya. About as difficult as finding a penny on the ground I suppose.

 

[tugrul_SIMD]

Wrath of titans.

Hey guys 5080 will scale better on gpu oc because higher vram bandwidth and equally faster L2 cache. Unless gpu oc also oc the L2. I guess L2 depends on vram freq.

 

[Vya Domus]

The currently in stock $960 4080S at Walmart surely is hard to find for Vya. About as difficult as finding a penny on the ground I suppose.

You mean this one ? :

The one with 2 stars rating and a bunch of guys complaining they got scammed ?

Yeah, interesting, I wonder why this one is the only one in "Stock".

 

[dgianstefani]

Wrath of titans.

Hey guys 5080 will scale better on gpu oc because higher vram bandwidth and equally faster L2 cache. Unless gpu oc also oc the L2. I guess L2 depends on vram freq.

Ada was bandwidth starved so it's likely.

You mean this one ? :
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The one with 2 stars rating and a guy complaining he got scammed ?
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Yeah, interesting, I wonder why this one is the only one in "Stock".

Vya cherry picking things as usual. Hiding the first two reviews to show the one that fits his "argument".

Lmao.