I need help build 600 euro pc

[krusha03]

Z170 is of course the best because you can overclock even non k cpus by upping the bclk

 

[slozomby]

The most problem i have is choosing a motherboard from b150 h170 z170 being so close in price they are confusing.

if you're not getting a K proc then you don't need a Z motherboard. if you're getting a K proc you want a Z motherboard.

 

[P4-630]

if you're not getting a K proc then you don't need a Z motherboard.

Z170 is of course the best because you can overclock even non k cpus by upping the bclk

 

[$ReaPeR$]

Hi guys i will make a computer and i need help picking out whats the best components to get for it. The site i will buy it from its computeruniverse , i got a 750 ti that i will tranfer over. Also i need a 240-256gb SSD. I would like it to be as "future proof" as i can get for that budget. Thanks guys

what do you think about this system? i didn't put a GPU because you said that you would use the 750ti, and i didn't put a case because i don't know what you would prefer.

 

[Komshija]

Well a 30euro cooler to get cooler and quieter than stock is worth it i think ,
for the psu i do agree its a bad choice for this price point but i do want to get a good component one ,
although if you say that the corsair one will do fine then i might grab that and save 40-50 eur or so.
The most problem i have is choosing a motherboard from b150 h170 z170 being so close in price they are confusing.

Corsair CX550M is made by CWT and uses chinese or taiwanese capacitors. Not necessarily bad, but they are second tier. Enermax Maxpro is produced by Enermax and uses japanese capacitors, but it isn't modular.

If you plan to upgrade CPU in the future, take MSI Z170A Krait Gaming 3X or Krait Gaming R6 Siege motherboard, which are 30€ more expensive than the one I previously suggested. However, if you plan to keep your PC for about 4 or less years, go with MSI H170 Gaming M3, which is a very good motherboard.
If you are on a very strict budget, pick Gigabyte GA-B150 HD3P which is 30€ cheaper than MSI H170.
My personal choice for i5 6500 would be MSI H170 Gaming M3...

 

[wolar]

I'm going for something like this, i know 650w is overkill but its the same price as the 550w so why not (im not going over by many watts to reduce efficiency anw).
Also for the case there is the fractal r4, define s, s340 , so im going for something among those 4 (with the one on the build being the most favorite).
Cpu with stock cooler is 23 euro more so its cheaper to go for aftermarket cooler, i think this one will suffice.
Do you see anything i should change ?

Thanks all for the help.

 

[wolar]

Corsair CX550M is made by CWT and uses chinese or taiwanese capacitors. Not necessarily bad, but they are second tier. Enermax Maxpro is produced by Enermax and uses japanese capacitors, but it isn't modular.

If you plan to upgrade CPU in the future, take MSI Z170A Krait Gaming 3X or Krait Gaming R6 Siege motherboard, which are 30€ more expensive than the one I previously suggested. However, if you plan to keep your PC for about 4 or less years, go with MSI H170 Gaming M3, which is a very good motherboard.
If you are on a very strict budget, pick Gigabyte GA-B150 HD3P which is 30€ cheaper than MSI H170.
My personal choice for i5 6500 would be MSI H170 Gaming M3...

I'm between Enermax Maxpro , corsair vengeance and seasonic s12ii for psu, all 3 seem to have good reviews and i dont care being modular or not.
I really don't have any idea which to go for

Edit: actually as the budget allows for something more expensive i do have the choice to go for something else also. Not sure if its worth it though.

 

[slozomby]

not bad. i'd probly spend the extra 2 euros on the asrock z170 board list above in case you decide to upgrade later.

 

[i7Baby]

Computer Universe is a bit expensive. Try -

CPU: AMD FX-8370 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor (€176.98 @ Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (€35.71 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (€137.52 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory (€58.74 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Silicon Power Slim S55 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€62.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case (€79.84 @ Mindfactory)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€63.51 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €614.30

 

[wolar]

Computer Universe is a bit expensive. Try -

CPU: AMD FX-8370 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor (€176.98 @ Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (€35.71 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (€137.52 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory (€58.74 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Silicon Power Slim S55 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€62.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case (€79.84 @ Mindfactory)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€63.51 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €614.30

Thanks for the reply but i decided to go for an i5 , also i'm not from Germany i will be ordering from 1 place to ship here.

 

[krusha03]

I'm going for something like this, i know 650w is overkill but its the same price as the 550w so why not (im not going over by many watts to reduce efficiency anw).
Also for the case there is the fractal r4, define s, s340 , so im going for something among those 4 (with the one on the build being the most favorite).
Cpu with stock cooler is 23 euro more so its cheaper to go for aftermarket cooler, i think this one will suffice.
Do you see anything i should change ?

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Thanks all for the help.

For 3 euros more get at least the Z170 board. Also as I showed you by buying cheaper case and shipping on a cooler now you can get a i7 in around the same price range or get a 500GB SSD with an i5. Do you really need to spend more than 10% of your budget on a case?

 

[wolar]

Thanks all for the help, these are the items i ordered yesterday. I might add a 1050 ti to replace the 750ti .
I know PSU is overkill but it was about the same price as the 500w one. Also motherboard was 10euro more expensive than the msi H170 one and i decided to get this ,
might do some bclk OC if i can get the bios that allows it.

 

[Kanan]

Thanks all for the help, these are the items i ordered yesterday. I might add a 1050 ti to replace the 750ti .
I know PSU is overkill but it was about the same price as the 500w one. Also motherboard was 10euro more expensive than the msi H170 one and i decided to get this ,
might do some bclk OC if i can get the bios that allows it.

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Looks okay but rather buy a rx470 than a gtx 1050ti, way faster and only a tad more expensive.

 

[wolar]

Guys i got the items but its not booting , i tried outside of the case with motherboard+cpu + cooler (connected to cpu_fan) and 1 or both rams on different slots , PSU connected 24pin and cpu 8pin.
I start it it shows nothing (i tried installing the 750 ti too) , i changed from hdmi to dvi still nothing , i even did a cmon reset still nothing , i tried with different psu also .
I do not own other ddr4 to test or other 1151 motherboard, any idea what is going wrong or how to fix it ?
There is no screen or audio on the motherboard to identify the problem so i am clueless on what is going wrong , PC starts (black screen) and after a while it shutdowns and restarts (endless loop)

 

[wolar]

I read now one comment that says with higher clock ram the motherboard wont boot , you have to install a 2133mhz ones and set from bios the xmp to boot , i hope this is the problem and i will test it as soon as i can get my hands on one

 

[slozomby]

before you go scavenging for ram. a little troubleshooting is in order.
1st unplug everything but power and fans and double check those connections. remove any pci/pcie devices.
put in 1 ram stick and see if it boots.

high speed ram should default to 2133 and boot. if theres a cmos clear option via button or jumper try that.

 

[wolar]

But i said i did all those things also i assembly the motherboard and cpu outside of the case so no fans or any other connection just cpu motherboard cooler PSU and ram(which i tried in every spot each ram).
I know high speed ram should default to 2133 and boot but i found a comment on amazon that says it wouldnt boot with higher freq ram and he had to put lower speed ones , configure the bios and then put the other ram to work.
Ofcourse it may be a DOA mobo but i have to try that first , also to eliminate the possibility the ram are at fault so all that remains is the motherboard and CPU.
I discharged myself before touching the components and i aligned the cpu to the motherboard correctly, i did not screw up anything i'm certain.

 

[wolar]

Problem is fixed , everything works great and temps are incredibly low , to the point where i consider something being wrong
CPU : 19C idle , 34C under full load (OCCT)