I want to create Server based Gaming Rig

[Aquinus]

I don't understand. For the price of the quad-core E5-2637 V3, you can get an octa-core 5960X and still overclock it. If you absolutely have to run dual-socket (and for what?), then the 5960x would not be feasable but is there really an advantage of dual-sockets over the 5960x besides more cache?

It gives the option of going with more cores if he comes to his senses and realizes that this is server hardware while not completely butchering his experience. There is also a lot more upgrade paths for more expensive Xeons with more cores beyond two quads. The problem with that is that the CPUs get really expensive for minimal gain in gaming. My point is if he really wants a multi-CPU system that dual CPU is furthest you want to go because the extra QPI links in E5-4xxx series CPUs and E7s tend to eat away at clock speeds in order to gain scalablility (more cores.) The best balance between the two are E5-2xxx Xeons if you must go dual CPU. My point is that dual quads is the best starting point to keep you options open. A good example would be dual E5-2643 V3s. Similar clocks to the 2637s but 2 more cores per CPU which puts you at 12c/24t. Once again, E5-2xxx CPUs are the best middle ground if you need more cores.

With that said, I still think that a good i7 would be the best option for gaming but, the question is if the OP really needs the extra cores for something other than gaming. I just want to be clear about that.

 

[lonewolf]

Ok what I do not understand is when some one asks for advice and gets it then proceeds to argue about it. If you do not agree with what the majority are saying then build it test it and come show the majority that they were wrong. If not say thanks for your input and move on.

 

[OneMoar]

Ok what I do not understand is when some one asks for advice and gets it then proceeds to argue about it. If you do not agree with what the majority are saying then build it test it and come show the majority that they were wrong. If not say thanks for your input and move on.

-except we already know for 100% fact that its a stupid idea .....
wrong advice is wrong for what the op wants a server machine and xeons is a terrible fucking idea.... he has no clue what hes buying other then its "ooo shiney"

 

[lonewolf]

-except we already know for 100% fact that its a stupid idea .....
wrong advice is wrong for what the op wants a server machine and xeons is a terrible fucking idea.... he has no clue what hes buying other then its "ooo shiney"

I understand that and agree its a bad idea. But I stand by my thought if he wont listen either dont ask or try to prove the advise wrong. dont continue to argue about it for days.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

i thought from the outset that this was a troll post , hence my reference to the OP using his phone, however because

TYPING IS CHEAP

i have cotinued to help, in my quiet, helpful, inoffensive way.

Goodluck OP ( all charitable contributions to WCG please)

 

[qubit]

@Vineet Reddy Listen to the other members here. This is a stupid idea that won't get you the performance that you want.

On top of that, you'd be much better off going with a non-reference 980 Ti with a big fat overclock than a Titan X - check out the TPU reviews for details - and for a lot less money. Also, 2 card SLI is likely to be the best option as you hit diminishing returns with more cards and likely more driver glitches too.

 

[micropage7]

maybe he has money tree, but anyway it looks cool having xeon, big board with kick ass cards but too bad if it couldnt meet your expectation especially on perform

 

[vega22]

it would be great if the only game you play is 3dmark.

i thought that mobo had the pci lanes alternate so the top slot and the 3rd slots where the 1st slot for each cpu socket and then the 5 slot and 7th are the 2nd.

if that is the case you would need custom sli bridges that intertwined each other.

 

[qubit]

it would be great if the only game you play is 3dmark.

i thought that mobo had the pci lanes alternate so the top slot and the 3rd slots where the 1st slot for each cpu socket and then the 5 slot and 7th are the 2nd.

if that is the case you would need custom sli bridges that intertwined each other.

lol, this rig design is getting worse by the minute.

 

[Vineet Reddy]

Ok what I do not understand is when some one asks for advice and gets it then proceeds to argue about it. If you do not agree with what the majority are saying then build it test it and come show the majority that they were wrong. If not say thanks for your input and move on.

-except we already know for 100% fact that its a stupid idea .....
wrong advice is wrong for what the op wants a server machine and xeons is a terrible fucking idea.... he has no clue what hes buying other then its "ooo shiney"

I appreciate your help and do respect your advice. That is the main reason I am here "to get best advice from pros like you who has better info about these things than me". The only thing is that I will not be requiring any major hardware upgrade for a long time only if this thing worked.
Still I would appreciate if you could double check for any chances of getting it worked or for any hope.

 

[Vineet Reddy]

You do realize that Xeons are no longer overclockable, not just that but, from a coding perspective it is very unrealistic to think that any amount of code changes to games will make the single-threaded bottleneck problem not an issue. Also testing has shown that higher resolution requires more GPU power and less compute which means that as resolution goes up, CPU usage goes down and that the difference between different CPUs starts diminishing at higher resolutions because the GPU becomes the bottleneck.

Simply put, you're making a lot of assumptions that aren't true. We're telling you it's a bad idea because it is a bad idea. If you really want to waste thousands of dollars on a platform that will perform worse than one that doesn't, go right ahead but, I hope you understand what you're doing because another user did the same thing with dual 16c Opterons and the performance was absolute garbage despite having 32 cores. Don't fool yourself that more money and more cores can simply result in the best of the best. Computers don't work that way and if you care about your money or the end result, you should listen to what people are telling you.

tl;dr: The lower clocks the E7 Xeons offer is what will kill your gaming experience. No amount of cores will make up for a bottleneck caused by a single thread because when coordination slows down, everything slows down which is why this idea of building a quad CPU machine for gaming is absurd and beyond wasteful.

Now imagine how much that would suck if you couldn't overclock. Simply put, modern E7 Xeons are for servers and workstations. Leave them there.

Personally, I think the best option for the best of both worlds would be dual E5-2637 V3s. Two quads clocked high enough to do good at gaming but, with enough cores to do more intensive tasks.

INTEL XEON E7-8867 v3 is overclockable to 3.3GHz http://ark.intel.com/products/84681/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E7-8867-v3-45M-Cache-2_50-GHz

 

[MIRTAZAPINE]

No it is a bad idea still to go with 4 cpu. Go with just one instead of those Xeon if you really want it. For PC the best Long term strategy is to always save your money for future upgrades! Cpu and GPUs technology never stood still. Advancement maybe slowing down but there is always improvements each year. I have seen how a beast of rig from 5 years ago ageing compared to PC tech now.

I am curious what is your Budget really.

 

[OneMoar]

get a x99 board,water cooling and a pair of 980TI's
Xeons are terrible for gaming you must understand xeons are intended for crunching data,not playing games a 24 thread xeon @ 2.5Ghz will be slower then a 8Thread i7 at 3.50Ghz in every gaming test you throw at it .....
never mind the fact that No server board on the planet supports SLI .....

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

Xeons are terrible for gaming

no they are not, there may be better, but they are DEFINITELY NOT rubbish, come on mr moar.


i have a wonderful gaming experience and 20/20 vision...........

 

[cdawall]

get a x99 board,water cooling and a pair of 980TI's
Xeons are terrible for gaming you must understand xeons are intended for crunching data,not playing games a 24 thread xeon @ 2.5Ghz will be slower then a 8Thread i7 at 3.50Ghz in every gaming test you throw at it .....
never mind the fact that No server board on the planet supports SLI .....

That is not entirely true. You can run xfire and sli on any of the multi-slot boards just fine...

no they are not, there may be better, but they are DEFINITELY NOT rubbish, come on mr moar.


i have a wonderful gaming experience and 20/20 vision...........

My bloomfield i7 at 4.2ghz did quite well in games as well.

 

[OneMoar]

That is not entirely true. You can run xfire and sli on any of the multi-slot boards just fine...



My bloomfield i7 at 4.2ghz did quite well in games as well.

don't encourage it =/\
and no there are pleny of 16x 16x boards where you simply can not use SLI/Xfire due to bios limits

 

[dorsetknob]

No server board on the planet supports SLI

Silly BoyPerson
you do not have to use a server board to utilize the XEON POWER

I run 2 Xeons and they run on Desktop boards quite sucesfully as do LOTS OF PEOPLE and while they both do not run SLI ( don't have the cards ) they do run CROSSFIRE

Ps workstation boards can run quad SLI or CROSSFIRE with that DAMM XEON

need a bitchslap emoji

 

[cdawall]

don't encourage it =/\
and no there are pleny of 16x 16x boards where you simply can not use SLI/Xfire due to bios limits

You can force SLi on anything now. There is a thread for it on here I used it on my 890FX board which should have been xfire only.

 

[Vineet Reddy]

No it is a bad idea still to go with 4 cpu. Go with just one instead of those Xeon if you really want it. For PC the best Long term strategy is to always save your money for future upgrades! Cpu and GPUs technology never stood still. Advancement maybe slowing down but there is always improvements each year. I have seen how a beast of rig from 5 years ago ageing compared to PC tech now.

I am curious what is your Budget really.

This build is costing me near to $16,500(INR11,00,000) but don't worry my budget can go up to $30,000 or even more if needed. Give me best configuration possible cost is no matter so don't back-down on listing expensive hardware if needed.
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Edited:- Forgot to quote that the price $16,500(INR11,00,000) is very low and unexpected by many. But I live in New Delhi,India here we have a place called Nehru Place where we get computer hardware products for very low price with legit warranty.

 

[cdawall]

5960x, 3x titans

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[dorsetknob]

we have a place called Nehru Place where we get computer hardware products for very low price with legit warranty.

Members here would be interested in website address and do they ship outside of India ???

 

[OneMoar]

You can force SLi on anything now. There is a thread for it on here I used it on my 890FX board which should have been xfire only.

Orly what are you gonna do if the board doesn't detect the second gpu at all(won't boot) .. because thats what most of them do ... don't make generalisations based on one case
sli does not work on 80% of server hardware

 

[cdawall]

Orly what are you gonna do if the board doesn't detect the second gpu at all(won't boot) .. because thats what most of them do ... don't make generalisations based on one case
sli does not work on 80% of server hardware

Which 2P board wont boot with dual GPU's? That is a common configuration on "workstation 2P" boards.

SLi is a software switch. It doesn't give a rats behind what board is there.

 

[alucasa]

Many years ago, I purchased AMD 4 x 4 system for the fun of it.

Wasn't impressed by the performance at that time. Spent 3k on it tho. At that time, games were all single threaded.

Just grab i7 6700k and a Geforce 980 and be done with it.

 

[OneMoar]

Which 2P board wont boot with dual GPU's? That is a common configuration on "workstation 2P" boards.

I have two super-micro boards here that won't boot with more then one gpu ...
despite the box claiming sli support ./...