i7 13700Hx or Ryzen 7840HS?

[R0H1T]

Can you elaborate on this please, what sort of tasks do you think the 7840HS would edge the 13700HX on

AVX 512 ~ anything's that makes heavy use of it for instance or something like 7zip as well. Basically where 8 traditional (big) cores would be useful.

Also since it's a laptop the i7 would probably throttle earlier from its peak & harder than Ryzen. That also depends on the cooling as well as power limit set on the laptops, but each Ryzen core should generally have more power to use.

 

[evernessince]

No? Like I said, speculation isn't useful. The specific laptop is either reviewed or it isn't.

You cannot expect every laptop to be reviewed, much less every variant of every laptop. The entire reason Notebookcheck gives you those ranges is to provide further insight on expected performance of a given part based on multiple data points. Short of actually having two reviews of the same laptop but with a different CPU (which many review outlets won't do because it's a waste of time to review multiple variants of the same laptop) the information provided by notebookcheck is the next best thing.

At just a glance the reviewed Phoenix platforms w/ dGPU is also in that ballpark, around 15W for G14 2023, LOQ, and Legion Slim.

Not according to notebookcheck:

9.58w with a DGPU.

15W is the worst result for the 7840HS, which is almost as good as the 13700HX's best result. It just goes to show you.

Interesting... Gaming laptops Batteries should be easily removable to prevent this
This will affect the 7840HS to tho

They should be but companies want to force customers to upgrade more often. Yes this will impact the 7840HS but to a lesser degree due to the lower heat output.

What i care the most is that heat doesn't impact performance to the point it performs below 7840HS

Unfortunately it's hard to quantify the exact impact heat has unless we have a review of the specific model. I gave you the potential performance range in a prior post but we'd need something like a frequency vs CPU temp chart to see the impact thermals have on CPU performance.

Interesting, I just wish they were cheaper to make them more compelling, Intel is either undercutting AMD or AMD is being very stupid with their pricing strategy
From my perspective im looking at a same laptop model with both CPUs, same price
Intel offers slightly better single core performance in a variety benchmarks i seen and has extra E cores, plus Thunderbolt 4 ports

Considering this, the AMD config should be cheaper but its not therefor its hard to chose it and forego the extra performance, e cores and io

It's likely a combination of AMD overcharging and Intel undercutting. AMD wants to be the premium brand like Intel was so they are keeping prices high.

Gaming laptops push the physics, if you want any decent performance gaming* you'll want to be plugged in

That's not always the case, especially with AMD bringing 3D cache CPUs to mobile in the form of the Ryzen 9 7945HX3D. If it's anything like the desktop parts, you are talking best in class performance at a fraction of the power consumption. The 7945HX3D is a 16 P-Core part with only a TDP of 40w.

 

[tabascosauz]

You cannot expect every laptop to be reviewed, much less every variant of every laptop. The entire reason Notebookcheck gives you those ranges is to provide further insight on expected performance of a given part based on multiple data points. Short of actually having two reviews of the same laptop but with a different CPU (which many review outlets won't do because it's a waste of time to review multiple variants of the same laptop) the information provided by notebookcheck is the next best thing.



Not according to notebookcheck:

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9.58w with a DGPU.

15W is the worst result for the 7840HS, which is almost as good as the 13700HX's best result. It just goes to show you.

They should be but companies want to force customers to upgrade more often. Yes this will impact the 7840HS but to a lesser degree due to the lower heat output.

Unfortunately it's hard to quantify the exact impact heat has unless we have a review of the specific model. I gave you the potential performance range in a prior post but we'd need something like a frequency vs CPU temp chart to see the impact thermals have on CPU performance.

It's likely a combination of AMD overcharging and Intel undercutting. AMD wants to be the premium brand like Intel was so they are keeping prices high.

That's not always the case, especially with AMD bringing 3D cache CPUs to mobile in the form of the Ryzen 9 7945HX3D. If it's anything like the desktop parts, you are talking best in class performance at a fraction of the power consumption. The 7945HX3D is a 16 P-Core part with only a TDP of 40w.

Did you even read any of the reviews? Not sure why you sorted by Min value, average idle figures as I stated.

 

[Mussels]

Cheers, i'm not an expert on the laptop parts - just that it was an example of a laptop that ran cool and power efficient

You cannot expect every laptop to be reviewed, much less every variant of every laptop.

This.

It sucks but it's undeniable - there are too many variants that are limited production, it's impossible.