i7 8700 or i5 9600K - WHICH ONE WOULD YOU CHOOSE?

[redc0de]

So guys

I got this GPU AMD 6800 16GB
16GB DDR4 2400 Mhz Ram
and an i7 8700 processor but seems like it's bottlenecking with my gpu and this guy wanted to switch it with me the cpu's with i5 9600K processor, so will i5 9600K cpu work better for me?

 

[Selaya]

8700

6 extra threads are way more useful than the unlocked multiplier

and 2400mt/s memory is your bottleneck, you want at least 3600 (only works w/ z370/390 board tho)

 

[P4-630]

As Selaya mentioned, I wouldn't do it either, the 8700K has 12-threads, the 9600K only 6 although newer...

Intel Core i5-9600K Benchmark

The i7 8700K has a better score because of it's 12-threads total

Intel Core i7-8700K Benchmark

 

[dirtyferret]

6 extra threads are way more useful than the unlocked multiplier

and 2400mt/s memory is your bottleneck, you want at least 3600 (only works w/ z370/390 board tho)

The i7 8700K has a better score because of it's 12-threads total
PassMark - Intel Core i7-8700K @ 3.70GHz - Price performance comparison

8700 non K, memory I recall would be locked at 2666 mhz on your B360 Gaming K4

and an i7 8700 processor but seems like it's bottlenecking with my gpu and this guy wanted to switch it with me the cpu's with i5 9600K processor, so will i5 9600K cpu work better for me?

It really depends on the game but I figure you are not going to upgrade the RAM or mobo so OC the 9600k may not be an option. In "general" terms the 9600k might show some better benchmarks in games that dump a large workload on one or two cores but really you are not going to see a world of difference between the 9600k and 8700(non K). What game(s) are you playing and what is the issue(s)?

 

[Selaya]

6-11th gen memory OC lock is purely based on board; you can even tweak SA voltages for non-k skus as long as you had a board that allows for memory oc

 

[dirtyferret]

6-11th gen memory OC lock is purely based on board; you can even tweak SA voltages for non-k skus as long as you had a board that allows for memory oc

B 360 should be capped, I took a quick peak on Asrock and didn't see anything about OC RAM support for it

 

[Selaya]

yes, you cant oc memory on b360

so you either shop for a used z370/390, or just throw it all away and buy something more modern instead

 

[Ruru]

Like said above, 8700 for the extra threads. 9600K is practically an improved 8600K.

 

[dirtyferret]

here is a review between the two, like I said prior the results for the two are more or the less the same so it would be a pointless move especially if you can't OC.

Compared to the Core i5-9600K, then, the Core i7-8700 is faster at both 1080p and 1440p in almost every game in my testing suite, but it's also not the kind of blistering speed you might expect from a CPU that costs another hundred-odd quid. Its superior performance in Assassin's Creed Odyssey might be enough for some to earn a place at the table, for example, but others will likely discard it immediately due to its lacklustre Forza Horizon 4 results.

 

[P4-630]

8700 non K

Is still better that a stock i5 9600K

i7 8700

Intel Core i7-8700 Benchmark

However you can OC the i5... Decisions, decisions....

 

[Selaya]

passmark is basically completely useless when it comes to gaming performance
thus completely irrelevant to the op's issue at hand

 

[nomdeplume]

So guys

I got this GPU AMD 6800 16GB
16GB DDR4 2400 Mhz Ram
and an i7 8700 processor but seems like it's bottlenecking with my gpu and this guy wanted to switch it with me the cpu's with i5 9600K processor, so will i5 9600K cpu work better for me?

I've been considering a similar change coming from i5 8400 and a H370 board with DDR4 2400. Attempts to improve upon this combination for gaming without wholesale replacement are going to produce negligible results.

What I decided is i5 13600K and cheap B660/B760/Z690/Z790 D4 mobo with some cheap faster RAM. For the same amount I could find a used Z370 + 8700K with identical DDR4 speed and quantity. To my eyes there is no middle ground worth investigating.

This calculation may work out vastly different with AMD?

 

[P4-630]

passmark is basically completely useless when it comes to gaming performance
thus completely irrelevant to the op's issue at hand

However it's somewhat of a baseline in a lot of usages including some basic 3d.

The higher the CPU scores, generally it's a better gaming CPU overall.

If you want to be more precise for gaming you have to check game reviews with both CPU's tested.

 

[Selaya]

the OP already has the 8700.
all they now need is the board (and the memory ig, unlikely they're able to OC their current sticks to 3600mt/s), but yeah

 

[dirtyferret]

However you can OC the i5... Decisions, decisions....

the OP can't, if the OP had a Z mobo where they could OC the 9600k and get faster ram and the OP played a game (like an online one) that was more optimized on single core performance and he was building from scratch, one could make an argument for the 9600k...but none of that is true

already owns a mobo you can't OC or get faster RAM, already owns the 8700, no clue on games they play but it would be a total waste of money to make the change

 

[Lei]

So guys

I got this GPU AMD 6800 16GB
16GB DDR4 2400 Mhz Ram
and an i7 8700 processor but seems like it's bottlenecking with my gpu and this guy wanted to switch it with me the cpu's with i5 9600K processor, so will i5 9600K cpu work better for me?

Almost same. 8700 sometimes better.

 

[dirtyferret]

Almost same. 8700 sometimes better.

that's the K version, he has non K

 

[Deleted member 185158]

If you want better single core performance, and your games don't scale past 6 threads, just turn off the HT.

Otherwise a platform upgrade.
12400F and a ddr4 board will hand it pretty hard to an 8700/K.

Food for thoughts

 

[A&P211]

So guys

I got this GPU AMD 6800 16GB
16GB DDR4 2400 Mhz Ram
and an i7 8700 processor but seems like it's bottlenecking with my gpu and this guy wanted to switch it with me the cpu's with i5 9600K processor, so will i5 9600K cpu work better for me?

You would need to Z board to overclock the 9600k processor if you are going to switch.

Is it a straight swap or will some money change hands.

 

[redc0de]

Almost same. 8700 sometimes better.

Wish mine would work like this lol, I get fps drops in every game like at cod my fps stays at 70-50 no matter what resolution or high - medium - low settings while playing the game drops to 30, i get fps drops and this is not only on cod this is in every game, the only game that works fine for me and more than 100fps is dota 2, Dota 2 stays on fps 120 in 4k ultra settings and this is not everytime its just sometimes.

That's the fps I get - I guess it's the board and the ram.

 

[Lei]

Wish mine would work like this lol, I get fps drops in every game like at cod my fps stays at 70-50 no matter what resolution or high - medium - low settings while playing the game drops to 30, i get fps drops and this is not only on cod this is in every game, the only game that works fine for me and more than 100fps is dota 2, Dota 2 stays on fps 120 in 4k ultra settings and this is not everytime its just sometimes.

That's the fps I get - I guess it's the board and the ram.

are you playing at 4k?

 

[redc0de]

I play only dota 4k the others are in 1920x1080

 

[phanbuey]

Wish mine would work like this lol, I get fps drops in every game like at cod my fps stays at 70-50 no matter what resolution or high - medium - low settings while playing the game drops to 30, i get fps drops and this is not only on cod this is in every game, the only game that works fine for me and more than 100fps is dota 2, Dota 2 stays on fps 120 in 4k ultra settings and this is not everytime its just sometimes.

That's the fps I get - I guess it's the board and the ram.

Board, ram, and VBS -- turn off virtualization in the bios and your FPS should go up.

 

[Kodehawa]

8700 imo. The 9600K doesn't have enough of a ST lead to make it significantly better. I'd just upgrade to 12th gen or 13th gen when you can.

 

[dgianstefani]

97/9900K only things worth switching to.

Dead platform though.

13th gen 6-7-900K/Zen 7800X3D only things worth putting money into from a gaming perspective.