i7 8700K, 8600K, 7700K Overclock results

[Vario]

I was watching an identical CPU+mobo combo to my pc on ebay and it went for $420. Sadly for me my board is one foot in the grave and even though I could sell it, i probably wont be able to fetch the same amount for it.

Sadly the 3930K hasn't aged as well in value as the 3770K. Maybe because of the availability of Xeons for socket 2011 compared to 1155. The 3770K sells for almost what microcenter was selling them for new back in 2012. I felt I had to take advantage of it before the value slid further. 2 years ago the 3770K was selling for around $250 and the 2600K was selling for $200.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Sadly the 3930K hasn't aged as well in value as the 3770K. Maybe because of the availability of Xeons for socket 2011 compared to 1155. The 3770K sells for almost what microcenter was selling them for new back in 2012. I felt I had to take advantage of it before the value slid further. 2 years ago the 3770K was selling for around $250 and the 2600K was selling for $200.

If my entire setup was still in top condition i think i would of been able to get a fair price for it. Im sure somebody would want it as a video editing or crunching/mining station perhaps. My 32GB of 2400mhz ram coupled with my OC would be the 'piste de la resistance'.

 

[Vario]

If my entire setup was still in top condition i think i would of been able to get a fair price for it. Im sure somebody would want it as a video editing or crunching/mining station perhaps. My 32GB of 2400mhz ram coupled with my OC would be the 'piste de la resistance'.

Agreed it is too bad about the board.

 

[fusseli]

Been running this for months, rock solid

 

[Vayra86]

Things are currently VERY expensive here...
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Basically $1194 if you round it up. Price of ram is pretty retarded. I cant believe it costs as much as the CPU which is just straight up dumb. I could save myself some cash by going with a WD Black M.2 SSD but those are a little slower than the samsung specced.

part of the reasoning of buying a new PC apart from my current one slowly dying is to motivate myself to get out there and look for work. Sometimes it can be a real drag but If i put myself in a position where i need to pay something off then I'll be more pro-active with the whole thing. At the same time It also dooms me. Of course I could still pay the installments but it will eat significantly into what i current earn.

But... these are not really cost effective component choices either. M2 and a Maximus Hero... you can drop down to at least 675-700 with some smarter choices there. The RAM probably won't get much cheaper but there's another 10-25 savings to be had there too without losing speed.

 

[las]

I see you are having trouble hitting 5.0 with sub 90C load temps so I guess you didn't delid and replace TIM, sadly it's needed on Intel's chips for proper overclocks and temps

 

[FreedomEclipse]

But... these are not really cost effective component choices either. M2 and a Maximus Hero... you can drop down to at least 675-700 with some smarter choices there. The RAM probably won't get much cheaper but there's another 10-25 savings to be had there too without losing speed.

I could. But the maximus fits my needs with all the USB ports and stuff. I even considered the i3 8350k at one point but that is way overpriced for what it is

 

[EarthDog]

I see you are having trouble hitting 5.0 with sub 90C load temps so I guess you didn't delid and replace TIM, sadly it's needed on Intel's chips for proper overclocks and temps

 

[las]

Can't you handle the truth?

Anyway, I hope we see Ice Lake soon, instead of a 4th Skylake release on 14nm+++ (going to be 5th 14nm release, lol..)

Can't wait for completely new arch on 10nm. Pigeon poop = delid. Hoping for solder tho.

 

[EarthDog]

IL wont have solder either... paste is fine. Get over your agenda already.

 

[jboydgolfer]

I'm still ironing out the overclocking settings,getting it optimized. but I've gotten up to 5.2 GHz so far without any problems. I did have to modify short term and long term load limits a little bit but now that I've got it set it stays in a rock solid 5ghz to 5.2 GHz on respective OC profile. Stock IHS

 

[las]

IL wont have solder either... paste is fine.

Haha, no it's not. Why do you think people delid. 20-30C lowered temp (and no crazy fluctuating core temps) + 300-400 MHz more. That's how bad Intel's TIM is.

If Ice Lake still has terrible TIM and gap I'm simply just delidding again. My 2600K did 5 GHz back in 2012, funny to see people struggling to hit 5 on newer CPU's because of crap TIM and gap. And accepting 90C load temps just because the CPU won't throttle before 100C... LOL

 

[Woomack]

Delidding is not required. People just create theories. Of course it helps in temps but who said that every CPU has to run at 5GHz+ and high voltages ?
Sorry but 30°C difference is a BS. It's either cooling issue or faulty CPU. Generally it tops at 15-20°C under full load what in general gives 0-100MHz higher OC. If someone can make more then simply has weak cooler. I've passed it on couple of chips and also believe me, EarthDog knows what he says as he is deep in this topic for longer too.

 

[las]

Delidding is not required. People just create theories. Of course it helps in temps but who said that every CPU has to run at 5GHz+ and high voltages ?
Sorry but 30°C difference is a BS. It's either cooling issue or faulty CPU. Generally it tops at 15-20°C under full load what in general gives 0-100MHz higher OC. If someone can make more then simply has weak cooler. I've passed it on couple of chips and also believe me, EarthDog knows what he says as he is deep in this topic for longer too.

No it's not BS. Go check overclockers.net thread about it, several hundred pages. Tons of people experienced 20-30C load temp drops and ALL hit 5+ GHz post delid. Most maxed out at 4.8-4.9 before and couldn't do shit because of spiking temps.

You know 5 GHz is a magic number for many OC'ers and it's not possible on many CPU's without delid (or serious cooling overkill). Linus hit 90C+ on all cores with two diff AIO's, 240mm AND 360mm, with a 8700K....

Some even run at 5.2-5.4 GHz post delid.. Yeah 24/7 use.. Try that on stock TIM, hahah

I have delidded like 20+ CPU's over the last few years. Easy mode. Huge decrease in temps on all of them and 200-400 MHz gained + lower temps (which means lower noise on cpu cooler and all fans in general)

5 GHz is possible on CHEAP AIR COOLING after delid. Try that with stock TIM. You'll see 100C in no time and throttling.

My own 6700K couldn't do more than 4.7 before delid.... Came from 2600K at 5 GHz, back when Intel didn't have crap TIM, no way I'd accept 4.7.

 

[EarthDog]

Bart, save your breath... useless... he pushes this like an agenda... i need to back off for sanity sake.

That avatar looks familar tho......

 

[las]

Bart, save your breath... useless...

Just accept facts.

 

[Woomack]

Let me quote EarthDog


Really theories like from OCN.

 

[John Naylor]

Loads here:

http://www.overclock.net/forum/5-intel-cpus/1621347-kaby-lake-overclocking-guide-statistics.html

Average OC 5.03
Median OC 5.00
Average Vcore 1.36
Median Vcore 1.36

You can see all the components settings, voltages, cooling.. data tops out at 5.2 with and without delidding.

http://www.overclock.net/forum/5-intel-cpus/1639998-i7-8700k-overclock-results-settings.html

With today's processors, I typically hit voltages I won't exceed before temps that cause concern. Unless your goal is to post on web site overclocking leaderboards, would recommend avoiding any synthetic benchmarks. RoG real bench or H.264 will place a greater load on your CPU than anything else it will ever see in its lifetime.

 

[Vayra86]

No it's not BS. Go check overclockers.net thread about it, several hundred pages. Tons of people experienced 20-30C load temp drops and ALL hit 5+ GHz post delid. Most maxed out at 4.8-4.9 before and couldn't do shit because of spiking temps.

You know 5 GHz is a magic number for many OC'ers and it's not possible on many CPU's without delid (or serious cooling overkill). Linus hit 90C+ on all cores with two diff AIO's, 240mm AND 360mm, with a 8700K....

Some even run at 5.2-5.4 GHz post delid.. Yeah 24/7 use.. Try that on stock TIM, hahah

I have delidded like 20+ CPU's over the last few years. Easy mode. Huge decrease in temps on all of them and 200-400 MHz gained + lower temps (which means lower noise on cpu cooler and all fans in general)

5 GHz is possible on CHEAP AIR COOLING after delid. Try that with stock TIM. You'll see 100C in no time and throttling.

My own 6700K couldn't do more than 4.7 before delid.... Came from 2600K at 5 GHz, back when Intel didn't have crap TIM, no way I'd accept 4.7.

Kindly requesting you keep your delid nonsense out of here, this is about OC results not a discussion over TIM. Thanks

If you have personal data to provide on temps and results pre and post delid, by all means.

 

[las]

Kindly requesting you keep your delid nonsense out of here, this is about OC results not a discussion over TIM. Thanks

Well, temps and OC is terrible with stock TIM, so I'm not sure why you consider it nonsense. My CPU maxed out at 4.7 before delid, now running 5.0 with ease at much lower temps than 4.7.

With stock TIM you see temp spikes across all cores all the time. It's absolute garbage (gap between die and IHS does not help either).

This is why 90% or more in OC.net's owners threads have delidded. 5.0 is a walk in the park post delid, even on cheap air cooling. I have OC'ed 7600K, 7700K, 8600K and 8700K to 5.0-5.2 on air cooling or cheap 240mm AIO after delid. None of them did 5.0 before delid. CM 212 Evo and Scythe Kotetsu will do. $30 coolers.

People that don't have the expertise or balls to delid, often settles with 4.6-4.8 at lower voltages (can't do much voltage with the pigeon poop Intel decided to use).
Anything higher than 1.35ish makes CPU's with stock TIM melt and throttle most of the time.

 

[EarthDog]

Theocnoob...i finally put my finger on it...

 

[jboydgolfer]

My CPU maxed out at 4.7 before delid, now running 5.0 with ease at much lower temps than 4.7.

how many Chips have you tested personally? because owning a single chip, (it looks like you got a bad one) and making claims that an entire lineup of the product is terrible, based on an anecdotal experience, is like finding a hair in your cheeseburger, and saying ALL mcdonalds food is terrible (even tho it is).

keep in mind, im not saying the stock TIM is good, but i think claiming a lineup is terrible , is a tad overboard. my temps are great, and i can reach 5+Ghz np.....does that mean the TIM is wonderful?

 

[EarthDog]

Ive tried jboyd... I've tried. Its just not worth the 5s to even respond.

 

[jboydgolfer]

Ive tried jboyd... I've tried. Its just not worth the 5s to even respond.

okay, ill take your word. .....ill leave it at that then.



Well.....
im off to Kessel, i have some spice mines to inspect there later today.

 

[las]

how many Chips have you tested personally? because owning a single chip

I have delidded 20+ CPU's since Ivy Bridge, every single one benefitted greatly - Higher OC and much lower temps (and more stable across cores - no instant temp spiking)

Expect 15-30C lower load temps (i7 gain more than i5's because of HT)