unclewebb
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When you post a log file you have to tell me what you were doing while you were logging data. The start of your log file shows lots of EDP throttling and PL2 power limit throttling at only 25W. Are you using any manufacturer's software to control your computer and was this control software set to some sort of cool and quiet low power mode?
After the above message appears in the log file, there is no more EDP or PL2 throttling so at that moment, something must have changed.
When I think you are actually playing a game, things look great.
Even when fully loaded, the CPU is using the full 40.00 multiplier with zero throttling. That is as good as it gets. The CPU temperature slowly goes up to 83°C. That is a normal operating temperature for a mobile Intel CPU. Everything looks OK and there is nothing to worry about. Undervolting reduces power consumption and that helps to reduce temperatures.
There are other times when the CPU multiplier drops from 40 to 38 for no apparent reason.
I am not sure why this happened or what you were doing when this happened. I would check the Speed Shift box in the TPL window. Checking this box tells ThrottleStop to maintain the Speed Shift Max value which can help your CPU maintain full speed. This is another indication that there is some other software running on your computer that is trying to control the CPU speed.
When your computer is idle at the desktop with only ThrottleStop open, the average C0% should be under 1.0%. The lower the better. If you are way above that, open the Task Manager and go to the Details tab. Look for and exit any background processes that do not need to be running all of the time. In the C States window you should see all of the individual cores spending up to 99% of the time in core C7. Way less than that is a sign of too much useless stuff is running in the background. For smoother game play, it is best to reduce any unnecessary bloatware running in the background.
If you find an app that does not need to start up when Windows starts up, you can use Autoruns to stop a program from starting up. Autoruns is a powerful tool. Take some time and learn how to use it. Don't just randomly turn every start up item off.
After you make some adjustments, try logging some more data. Delete any previous log files before you start logging data. Play one game for 15 minutes and log data just for that game. If you are going to log data for 5 different games all to the same log file, tell me the time when you stopped and started each new game. This makes it easier to compare what you are doing with the data in the log file.
Edit - One other thing. When you are finished testing and setting up ThrottleStop, I would turn off Nvidia GPU monitoring. Nvidia Optimus is designed to let the Nvidia GPU go into sleep mode when you are not playing a game. Monitoring software like ThrottleStop trying to monitor the GPU temperatures and speed can interfere with Optimus. Your laptop will run cooler when not playing games if the Nvidia GPU can remain dormant. The Intel GPU is good enough when not playing.
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2024-07-27 13:38:33 POWER STATUS CHANGEWhen I think you are actually playing a game, things look great.
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DATE TIME MULTI C0% CKMOD BAT_mW TEMP NVIDIA GPU VID POWER
2024-07-27 13:56:00 40.00 100.0 100.0 0 81 1455 51 1.0031 42.4
2024-07-27 13:56:01 40.00 100.0 100.0 0 83 1455 51 0.9856 42.5
2024-07-27 13:56:02 40.00 100.0 100.0 0 83 1455 51 0.9943 42.2
2024-07-27 13:56:03 40.00 100.0 100.0 0 83 1455 52 1.0101 42.1
2024-07-27 13:56:04 40.00 100.0 100.0 0 83 1455 52 0.9980 42.1
2024-07-27 13:56:05 40.00 100.0 100.0 0 83 1455 52 0.9830 42.0
2024-07-27 13:56:06 40.00 100.0 100.0 0 83 1455 52 0.9929 42.1
2024-07-27 13:56:08 40.00 100.0 100.0 0 83 1455 51 0.9985 42.6
2024-07-27 13:56:08 40.00 100.0 100.0 0 83 1455 51 0.9952 42.2
2024-07-27 13:56:09 40.00 100.0 100.0 0 83 1455 52 1.0101 42.5Even when fully loaded, the CPU is using the full 40.00 multiplier with zero throttling. That is as good as it gets. The CPU temperature slowly goes up to 83°C. That is a normal operating temperature for a mobile Intel CPU. Everything looks OK and there is nothing to worry about. Undervolting reduces power consumption and that helps to reduce temperatures.
There are other times when the CPU multiplier drops from 40 to 38 for no apparent reason.
Code:
DATE TIME MULTI C0% CKMOD BAT_mW TEMP NVIDIA GPU VID POWER
2024-07-27 13:57:41 40.00 6.3 100.0 0 55 1455 48 1.0367 12.9
2024-07-27 13:57:42 40.02 8.9 100.0 0 57 1455 48 1.0485 12.7
2024-07-27 13:57:43 38.01 10.5 100.0 0 55 1455 48 0.9900 12.0
2024-07-27 13:57:44 37.93 9.6 100.0 0 52 1455 49 0.9741 13.8
2024-07-27 13:57:45 38.00 9.0 100.0 0 56 1455 49 0.9840 10.9
2024-07-27 13:57:46 38.00 5.0 100.0 0 50 0 0 0.9988 11.4
2024-07-27 13:57:47 37.99 11.1 100.0 0 55 0 0 0.9934 14.0
2024-07-27 13:57:48 38.00 7.7 100.0 0 53 1455 47 0.9979 14.5
2024-07-27 13:57:49 38.00 10.4 100.0 0 52 1455 47 0.9875 12.0I am not sure why this happened or what you were doing when this happened. I would check the Speed Shift box in the TPL window. Checking this box tells ThrottleStop to maintain the Speed Shift Max value which can help your CPU maintain full speed. This is another indication that there is some other software running on your computer that is trying to control the CPU speed.
When your computer is idle at the desktop with only ThrottleStop open, the average C0% should be under 1.0%. The lower the better. If you are way above that, open the Task Manager and go to the Details tab. Look for and exit any background processes that do not need to be running all of the time. In the C States window you should see all of the individual cores spending up to 99% of the time in core C7. Way less than that is a sign of too much useless stuff is running in the background. For smoother game play, it is best to reduce any unnecessary bloatware running in the background.
If you find an app that does not need to start up when Windows starts up, you can use Autoruns to stop a program from starting up. Autoruns is a powerful tool. Take some time and learn how to use it. Don't just randomly turn every start up item off.
Autoruns - Sysinternals
See what programs are configured to startup automatically when your system boots and you login.
learn.microsoft.com
After you make some adjustments, try logging some more data. Delete any previous log files before you start logging data. Play one game for 15 minutes and log data just for that game. If you are going to log data for 5 different games all to the same log file, tell me the time when you stopped and started each new game. This makes it easier to compare what you are doing with the data in the log file.
No worries. Throughout my life I have always been well looked after by the big guy in the sky. Peace and happiness to you.
Edit - One other thing. When you are finished testing and setting up ThrottleStop, I would turn off Nvidia GPU monitoring. Nvidia Optimus is designed to let the Nvidia GPU go into sleep mode when you are not playing a game. Monitoring software like ThrottleStop trying to monitor the GPU temperatures and speed can interfere with Optimus. Your laptop will run cooler when not playing games if the Nvidia GPU can remain dormant. The Intel GPU is good enough when not playing.