Intel Adds Hyper-Threading to Its Kaby Lake-based Pentium CPUs

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

It's about time i3's had 4c or 3c/6t, i5's have 4c/8t, and i7's have 6c/8t (or more).


Either they do this soon, or zen will thoroughly crush their entire line-up.

Probably too late , with games going multi threaded I don't think AMD will sell a quad core RyZen ,I personally think that range will go from 6-16 cores ,they have the low to mainstream covered already.
Seams an odd move by Intel to me since they run the risk of elucidating everyone to their binning strategy of breaking shit on purpose.

 

[Captain_Tom]

Probably too late , with games going multi threaded I don't think AMD will sell a quad core RyZen ,I personally think that range will go from 6-16 cores ,they have the low to mainstream covered already.
Seams an odd move by Intel to me since they run the risk of elucidating everyone to their binning strategy of breaking shit on purpose.

It is quite true that everything Intel releases was set in stone 2 years before it released. As such it wouldn't surprise me at all if there was 1-2 years of AMD roflstomping Intel.

 

[ShurikN]

Probably too late , with games going multi threaded I don't think AMD will sell a quad core RyZen ,I personally think that range will go from 6-16 cores ,they have the low to mainstream covered already.
Seams an odd move by Intel to me since they run the risk of elucidating everyone to their binning strategy of breaking shit on purpose.

A low end Zen 4c/8t priced like a i3 can stir some heavy shit. *IF* it happens.

 

[Blitzer]

Over 45% of PC players are still using dual core CPU's (According to Steam Stats).

 

[THU31]

Very nice. 3.5 GHz, 4 threads with DDR4-2400 support for just 64 $? Fantastic value compared to Core i3.

Seems like a preemptive response to Ryzen.

 

[hojnikb]

Very nice. 3.5 GHz, 4 threads with DDR4-2400 support for just 64 $? Fantastic value compared to Core i3.

Seems like a preemptive response to Ryzen.

or to kill the non existing athlon x4 950

 

[Franzen4Real]

I dont know what your smoking. I see my dual core max out while just web browsing and i see my quad core 4.8Ghz 6700K max out while browsing in chrome (select heavy media pages max the cpu/opening multiply pages). I also notice load times on pages are far worse on dual core vs quad due to cpu limitation. Slick deals, netlfix, hulu are all good examples but all pages load slower but its painfully slower on those media type pages. Pages are stupidly media intensive now and i loathe using my i7 U6500 vs my desktop. It is super fucking slow in browsing verse my desktop and thats not even really "tough cpu stuff"

Apparently I'm smoking the same thing, as my i3 HTPC, i7laptop&desktop have never exhibited the behavior you've described. ever. Probably the strangest part about this is that I don't even smoke...

On topic, I would like to think this is a sign of the transition to come soon as other comments have pointed out, and see a bump up in core/thread count across the entire product stack.

 

[newtekie1]

IMO, this should have been done a long time ago.

It should be:

Celerons = 2c/2t
Pentiums = 2c/4t
Core i3 = 4c/4t
Core i5 = 4c/8t
Core i7 = 6c+/12t+

 

[Captain_Tom]

IMO, this should have been done a long time ago.

It should be:

Celerons = 2c/2t
Pentiums = 2c/4t
Core i3 = 4c/4t
Core i5 = 4c/8t
Core i7 = 6c+/12t+

It's definitely long overdue. I would argue Broadwell should have started this line-up.


The original line-up was conceived with this mindset:

Celeron = bare minimum, not meant for gaming
Pentium = Can run games ok. But only for budget builds
i3 = Good gaming CPU, not meant for super cards.
i5 = Good enough for the overwhelming majority of builds (Including enthusiast).
i7 = Massive overkill for gaming. Only for the most extreme builds or future proof-ing.


That was fine until around 2013 when all games started using 8 threads, and many games wouldn't even START without 4 threads. At that point a 2c/4t is really the "Minimum" anyone should choose for gaming, and 4c/8t is the norm for good gaming builds. Hence why I dropped all support for the i5 a couple years ago. i3's are 80% the performance for half the cost, and if you actually want a good gaming CPU - an i7 is mandatory.

 

[Captain_Tom]

Over 45% of PC players are still using dual core CPU's (According to Steam Stats).

Look closer. They may be using "Dual Cores", but most of them have 4 threads.

People need to stop saying just the core count too. Number of THREADS is what matters.

 

[Melvis]

There is... something wrong with your computer(s). If they're on the same network, you might want to do a good virus/spyware scan ASAP.

No no he is correct actually about that, I have on my main PC's Chrome and when I open it up I load all the pages I had open the time before, which could be around 10tabs lets say, as soon as I hit the button to load all my tabs my 8cores get maxed out loading all the pages. This can be avoided of course if you dont open up a ton of pages at one time or use a program (I cant think of it right now) that only loads the pages in chrome that you click on to be active, this decreases the load time and stress on the CPU.

So he is correct in what he is saying

Edit: Its called The Great Suspender. Install that add on to Chrome and that helps with lower CPU usage when opening up multiple tabs

 

[Olle P]

The German site ComputerBase.de show that the Pentium 4560 mostly outperform the Skylake generation of Core i3 and trail close to Core i5.
To me it seems like for most applications both i3 and i5 have become irrelevant for new builds. Either you need the extra performance (threads) of a Core i7 or a Pentium will be good enough at a fraction of the cost.

 

[micropage7]

And I don't know what you are smoking, my Pentium G3220 behaves just fine, in avarage desktop use no different from machines with more threads. The only time I wanted more threads was when I tried the BF1 beta.

This is excellent news. Celeron = 2c/2t, Pentium = 2c/4t, i3 = 4c/4t, i5 = 4c/8t, i7 = 6-8c/12-16t. Without raising prices! One can dream anyway... Utopia (or close to it) would be fully unlocked CPUs across the range, all of them.

yeah, still run dual cores and so far its enough so intel always tell take i3 but for easy task with limited budget it should perform pretty well

 

[HopelesslyFaithful]

There is... something wrong with your computer(s). If they're on the same network, you might want to do a good virus/spyware scan ASAP.

Its media rich sites. If you actually monitor ThrottleStop and task manager you will see your load speed is dependent on RAM and CPU.

If you time and look at 2 different cpus like a 3.5GHz vs a 4.8GHz the loading is substantially faster on the 4.8GHz

News sites are the worse for obvious reasons.

Slickdeals loads substantially faster on my desktop vs ultrabook.

 

[Olle P]

... Either you need the extra performance (threads) of a Core i7 or a Pentium will be good enough at a fraction of the cost.

To expand on this a little, and excluding the yet unknown Ryzen variants:

For gaming at 1080p with a decent graphics card I'd place games into three categories:
1. Games that run well on a Pentium G4560. This is currently the majority of games, and many of the to-be-released as well.
2. More CPU demanding games that run sluggish with Pentium but fluent on higher end Core i5. There are a couple of these, mostly strategy type. Tekken 7 seems to fit here.
3. Games that refuse to start unless you have a higher end Core i5 and will run better on Core i7. There are a select few of these at the moment, for example Forza Horizon 3, but a couple more seems to be on their way. Sniper Ghost Warrior 3 seems to fit here.

 

[adamiakadam00]

 

[rruff]

The German site ComputerBase.de show that the Pentium 4560 mostly outperform the Skylake generation of Core i3 and trail close to Core i5.

No. It's slower than the i3-6100 which is the slowest clocked regular Skylake i3. The i5-6500 beats it by 22% on average.