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Intel "Alder Lake-S" Due for September 2021

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2021 is shaping up to be a big year for Intel in the DIY desktop space, with the company preparing to launch not one, but two generations of desktop processors. Having announced them in January, the 11th Gen Core "Rocket Lake-S" desktop processors in the LGA1200 package, will release to market in March, with the company claiming a restoration in gaming performance leadership away from AMD's Ryzen 5000 series. Sources tell Uniko's Hardware that the company will announce its 12th Gen successor, the Core "Alder Lake-S" in September 2021.

"Alder Lake-S" will be Intel's first mainstream desktop processor built on its new 10 nm SuperFin silicon fabrication process. The chip is expected to be a "hybrid" processor, combining an equal number of larger "Golden Cove" cores, and smaller "Gracemont" cores, to offer significantly improved energy efficiency. Built in the new Socket LGA1700 package, "Alder Lake-S" is expected to feature more general-purpose SoC connectivity than LGA1200 chips. It will also herald new platform standards, such as DDR5 memory and possibly even mainstreaming of ATX12VO. The processor will launch alongside new Intel 600-series chipset. AMD's response is expected to be the "Zen 4" microarchitecture, a new silicon built on the 5 nm process, and the new AM5 socket that introduces DDR5 memory support.



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2 launches within 6 months really shows Intel as grasping at straws out of sheer desperation.
 
DeathtoGnomes said:
2 launches within 6 months really shows Intel as grasping at straws out of sheer desperation.
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Intel overclocked their business plan for product releases from 0.5 generations per year to 2 generations per year. That's an impressive 300% boost in performance.

I honestly hope that Alder Lake S is actually not a joke. I'm tired of seeing Intel recycle their own e-waste for years on end, I haven't wanted to buy a consumer Intel processor since Skylake in 2016.
 
Who is going to buy in March a CPU that will be replaced in September ? :kookoo:
 
This big.LITTLE architecture is so stupid to me in desktop. There will be tons of bugs on both sides (CPU and operating system) in this first generation.

And in desktop this is not needed at all. Who cares, that light-load tasks are consuming 1-5W instead of 5-20W in the desktop?
 
What interests me is not Alder Lake, but the Gracemont cores by itself. I think this will be a very good replacement to the Gemini Lake chips when it comes to ultra low power systems. Will have to see how Alder Lake performs because I am not convinced that big/little config is meant for say a high power desktop.
 
Really Intel?

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Really?
Are they better too?
 
watzupken said:
What interests me is not Alder Lake, but the Gracemont cores by itself. I think this will be a very good replacement to the Gemini Lake chips when it comes to ultra low power systems. Will have to see how Alder Lake performs because I am not convinced that big/little config is meant for say a high power desktop.
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Yes, Gracemont will have more modern instructions than it's predecessors.

Intel’s next-gen Alder Lake-S “Gracemont” core CPU architecture to support AVX/AVX2, AVX-VNNI instruction sets​

But not sure for the Pentium and Celeron series with only Gracemont Atom cores. If has plans to do it has possibilities up to 8C/8T Pentium first consumer model with more cores twice than previous 4C/4T max.
 
dicktracy said:
The only CPU that’s worth buying this year
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comments like this make it more obvious that you are just a troll rather then a fanboy.
because if you read the article it mentions 2 of Intel's upcoming CPU lines AND AMD's upcoming cpus as well... so your comment makes no sense...
come on man, put some effort into it jeez.

piloponth said:
This big.LITTLE architecture is so stupid to me in desktop. There will be tons of bugs on both sides (CPU and operating system) in this first generation.

And in desktop this is not needed at all. Who cares, that light-load tasks are consuming 1-5W instead of 5-20W in the desktop?
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ermm I do? I think it would be pretty sweet if the cpu consumes next to nothing 90% of the time when one is just browsing the web or so and then put the better stuff to work when you do actually play a game or so.
 
Imagine a time when each new CPU launched from either brand becomes the fastest one on the market, what a (pipe) dream.

I dunno if the mix of core types is a good thing, but I'm excited to see what it brings.
Is there a name for this in Intel's world? I'm so tired of that ARM reference haha..
Vayra86 said:
Really?
Are they better too?
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Fixed it for you.
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Max(IT) said:
Who is going to buy in March a CPU that will be replaced in September ? :kookoo:
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Anyone that wants to upgrade from a quad or a 6 Core on a z490 motherboard, to a 8 Core or just a faster 6 Core. Or someone that NEEDS a PC right now, not on september.

Unless you think that paying 360€ for a 5600x is Smart. That's if you can even find one.

Zen 3 is great, but the lack of chips and the crazy high prices made them a bad option
 
ZoneDymo said:
comments like this make it more obvious that you are just a troll rather then a fanboy.
because if you read the article it mentions 2 of Intel's upcoming CPU lines AND AMD's upcoming cpus as well... so your comment makes no sense...
come on man, put some effort into it jeez.
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It's a joke, lol calm down.

ermm I do? I think it would be pretty sweet if the cpu consumes next to nothing 90% of the time when one is just browsing the web or so and then put the better stuff to work when you do actually play a game or so.
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If you are worried about 2-3 watts of power simply lowering your screen brightness will save you more power then this chip will, not to mention all the energy that went INTO the chip to make it in the first place. Buying a new product to save a small amount of energy is the definition of enviromental virtue signaling.
 
Given Apple`s huge success with M1 on 5nm process, I have very high expectations for upcoming Zen 4 on 5nm process, I would probably advice everyone to wait on that unless it is really urgent.
 
Mats said:
Maybe it's not the only thing he's looking for in a new CPU.
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Maybe he's a martian. Who knows. The argument he presented only discusses power usage, nothing else. Speculating on other reasons with no information to back them up is pointless.

If you are upgrading to a new device to "save energy" you are a fool who has bought into green marketing that ONLY looks at energy used and not energy to manufacture and transport. BIG.little is not going to be a huge selling point on desktops, where energy use is nto a concern due to power budgets, but rather heat output, where idle is already not a problem. Modern chips already idle at 5-6w when not doing anything.
 
TheinsanegamerN said:
Maybe he's a martian. Who knows. The argument he presented only discusses power usage, nothing else. Speculating on other reasons with no information to back them up is pointless.

If you are upgrading to a new device to "save energy" you are a fool who has bought into green marketing that ONLY looks at energy used and not energy to manufacture and transport. BIG.little is not going to be a huge selling point on desktops, where energy use is nto a concern due to power budgets, but rather heat output, where idle is already not a problem. Modern chips already idle at 5-6w when not doing anything.
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orrr maybe I was in the market for a new cpu anyway and I like the idea that it can turn basically part of itself off for lighter tasks to reduce power consumption?
 
The title is misleading, alder lake S will be ANNOUNCED in september, so it's not really "due in september" as the CPU will be nonexistant until 2H2022.

which is different as AMD will have a Zen 4 cpu by this year(IF they make good on their timeline)

BTW: we've reached new levels of patheticism, where companies announce the announcement dates (both AMD and Intel do it)
 
Max(IT) said:
Who is going to buy in March a CPU that will be replaced in September ? :kookoo:
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You will also need a need motherboard and ram for Alderlake so buying into Rocket Lake S kind of a dead end.
 
I thought Alder Lake was 7nm and due in 2023?
What happened to that?
Or are these the larger "Extreme Edition" chips??
 
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