Intel Announces the Xeon E3-1200 v6 Family Based on "Kaby Lake" Architecture

[deu]

To Intel's defense - these were made and ready like 2-3 years ago... so they milked market as long as possible - but now they must dump it to the market, no matter that these chips are completely irrelevant even at 50% price drop when R5 will hit the market. so yea - professionals out there - buy a professional product for professional price while you still can. (but I am sure some "professionals" will not like comment like this and will remind me how important 1080 gaming with a 700$ GPU are for them - even on a workstation PC)

Everyone knows '1080' stands for 1080p in the naming!

To be honest i feel like anything above 1070 is wasted on 1080p: I play BF1 on ultra, star citizen (more or less fluent (server-side fps limitations rather than GFX), VIVE game etc. everything runs buttery smooth. Sure if you NEED 140-170 fps in BF1 instead of 110-120 you go for 1080+, bur other than that; people are brainless!

 

[idx]

Apologies, but what's so impressive about a 4 core CPU?

How dare you ! (now your life may be in danger ).
Don't you get it, its intel.

 

[jabbadap]

People here forget that these things goes to workstations offered by hp, lenovo, dell, fujitsu and the like. Sure you can buy one for yourself(If you find a mobo that works with them), but it is not really intended market for these processors.

So if amd don't give platform suitable for PC manufacturers, it does not really matter if zen is better.

 

[Caring1]

The value and performance of Intel HD graphics P630 is reflected in an up to 3X1 graphics performance improvement when compared with an Intel Xeon processor E3-1280 v2.

Considering the E3-1280 v2 doesn't have built in graphics, the increase in graphics performance should be greater, also I think 3X1 is meant to show 31X?

 

[pky]

also I think 3X1 is meant to show 31X?

No, it's 3X. The "1" should be in superscript. Same goes for the "56%1" in the article.

Still, three times better performance than 0 performance is quite the little improvement.

 

[Prima.Vera]

Nobody in their right mind would use an unproven platform with the heatoutput of the Zen for workstation/serveruse.

Once Zen has matured 1-2 generations more, then perhaps, but now? No fucking way

You cant apply your own needs to the workstation/entrylevel server market in general. Stability and efficientcy is way more important than the raw speed itself

Those CPU are not for server racks, common. Those are for CAD/3D Design stations, Professional Video and Photo editors, etc. Even so, are crap. Only 4 Cores, Dual Channel, even an I7 with 8 or 10 cores smoke those out of the water. I really need to understand what are the real speed advantages or feature over the "normal" platform ....

 

[Nokiron]

Those CPU are not for server racks, common. Those are for CAD/3D Design stations, Professional Video and Photo editors, etc. Even so, are crap. Only 4 Cores, Dual Channel, even an I7 with 8 or 10 cores smoke those out of the water. I really need to understand what are the real speed advantages or feature over the "normal" platform ....

They are though. I have seen plenty of R230s, 330s and DL20s with these.

Almost all the entry-servers come with E3-Xeons.

 

[TheGuruStud]

Lol all you want, but the idle powerdraw of the r7 is to high, and the platform IS still unproven.

See here for instance: https://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2017/03/02/amd-ryzen-1800x-and-am4-platform-review/8

Now - the idle draw might change with revisions, and it might be different when we see the actual chips and the boards that is going with them. But untill then, we have only the current facts. And they do NOT point towards server/workstation use.

Did you take note that shit bioses were pumping high V into the chips until it was fixed?

 

[diatribe]

Does anyone have an explanation why the E3-1280 v6 costs $612 versus the E3-1270 v6 @ $328? The E3-1240 v6 @ $272 seems like a good deal given how close it's performance is to the top dog.

 

[Nokiron]

Does anyone have an explanation why the E3-1280 v6 costs $612 versus the E3-1270 v6 @ $328? The E3-1240 v6 @ $272 seems like a good deal given how close it's performance is to the top dog.

I'ts probably just rare getting the same TDP with a higher baseclock. And because it is the top-model in the range.

Quite the jump though.

 

[Manu_PT]

Off the charts so much that in 90% of cases AMD's 8 core with 16 threads consumes as much power as 4 core with 8 threads from Intel XD

Ryzen reaches 288watt power consumption in some scenarios wich is way higher than any cpu out there, even 12 core ones.

Just leave amd fanboys, you are annoying. No one will buy ryzen for this segment. It is barely stable for home facebook usage. Crappy chipset and bios!

 

[Nokiron]

Ryzen reaches 288watt power consumption in some scenarios wich is way higher than any cpu out there, even 12 core ones.

Just leave amd fanboys, you are annoying. No one will buy ryzen for this segment. It is barely stable for home facebook usage. Crappy chipset and bios!

That's a bit harsh isn't it? I agree that it's too early and its unproven but im sure it will be viable.

 

[Manu_PT]

If you were involved in music production and had random crashes while converting 50 tracks with VSTs to .wav, you would be harsh aswell. Ryzen is awesome in cinebench. The platform itself is awful. Most kids only read articles and have no physical experience with the hardware, thats the problem.

 

[TheGuruStud]

If you were involved in music production and had random crashes while converting 50 tracks with VSTs to .wav, you would be harsh aswell. Ryzen is awesome in cinebench. The platform itself is awful. Most kids only read articles and have no physical experience with the hardware, thats the problem.

Says the guy without one...nor is there any mention of instability from reviewers that are actually using it as a daily driver.

You need banned for being a sad troll. 288 watts el oh el

 

[Prima.Vera]

'Dat overly hypocritical moment when you callously call somebody a "fanboy", while on the same time you are actually the only "fanbuoy" polluting the forums...
This world... ))))

 

[RejZoR]

Ryzen reaches 288watt power consumption in some scenarios wich is way higher than any cpu out there, even 12 core ones.

Just leave amd fanboys, you are annoying. No one will buy ryzen for this segment. It is barely stable for home facebook usage. Crappy chipset and bios!

That's the equivalent of running FurMark and then blasting how crappy GPU is. It's irrelevant and unrealistic. Everywhere else (realistic scenarios) it shines. Stop acting like an imbecile.

 

[Manu_PT]

With 4ghz/4.1ghz overclock, a system with a R7 1800x reaches 288 watt in some situations on a CPU intensive task. Google it.

This of course, if you can finish the task without getting a random restart or crash. Maybe with memory at 2133mhz it works.

And there are mentions of unstability, look for GamersNexus. He even got death threats because of bashing the platform, because of guys like you that can´t stand the fact this platform needs to mature, A LOT. Not ready yet to compete, specially on a segment like this.

 

[TheGuruStud]

With 4ghz/4.1ghz overclock, a system with a R7 1800x reaches 288 watt in some situations on a CPU intensive task. Google it.

This of course, if you can finish the task without getting a random restart or crash. Maybe with memory at 2133mhz it works.

Hey, everyone, servers and workstations use OCed CPUs.

How big are you gonna dig this hole lol

 

[Nokiron]

Hey, everyone, servers and workstations use OCed CPUs.

Dude, I could poll my databases so hard!

 

[Manu_PT]

Hey, everyone, servers and workstations use OCed CPUs.

How big are you gonna dig this hole lol

You are just agreeing with me. If they don´t use Oced CPUs is because what? STABILITY. Wich Ryzen can´t deliver even at stock speeds.

And I do use overclock for music production. If I can get the job done in 20 minutes compared to 30 minutes, why Wouldn´t I? The thing is that on intel I clock it at 4,5ghz and the ram at 3600 and it is stable, and fast.

 

[zAAm]

You are just agreeing with me. If they don´t use Oced CPUs is because what? STABILITY. Wich Ryzen can´t deliver even at stock speeds.

And I do use overclock for music production. If I can get the job done in 20 minutes compared to 30 minutes, why Wouldn´t I? The thing is that on intel I clock it at 4,5ghz and the ram at 3600 and it is stable, and fast.

Mmm

1) I have a workstation
2) I overclock my workstation
3) Therefore everyone who has a workstation overclocks it

I feel like something is wrong with this logic?

Barring upper-end enthusiasts who buy workstations for bragging value or a few self-employed business users, I'm fairly sure the vast majority of workstation users will never overclock. However, ECC memory is a big selling point in this market segment...

 

[Imsochobo]

You are just agreeing with me. If they don´t use Oced CPUs is because what? STABILITY. Wich Ryzen can´t deliver even at stock speeds.

And I do use overclock for music production. If I can get the job done in 20 minutes compared to 30 minutes, why Wouldn´t I? The thing is that on intel I clock it at 4,5ghz and the ram at 3600 and it is stable, and fast.

I'm incapable of reaching 4.5 Ghz on a 6900K and 6800K was a stretch on expensive water
Granted 7700K is capable but it's missing 4 cores but I'll cruise away at 3.6 ghz beating the 4.5 ghz 7700K in productivity while using the same amount of power

 

[cdawall]

You are just agreeing with me. If they don´t use Oced CPUs is because what? STABILITY. Wich Ryzen can´t deliver even at stock speeds.

And I do use overclock for music production. If I can get the job done in 20 minutes compared to 30 minutes, why Wouldn´t I? The thing is that on intel I clock it at 4,5ghz and the ram at 3600 and it is stable, and fast.

What ryzen CPU isn't stable at stock speeds?

 

[Beastie]

The thing is that on intel I clock it at 4,5ghz and the ram at 3600 and it is stable, and fast.

We don't know yet about these v6 E3 Xeons until we see reviews, but if they are anything like all the previous generations of E3 Xeons they will hardly overclock at all beyond normal boost clock. Indeed Intel make no claims whatsoever about OCing these chips.

So saying Ryzen is bad compared to these v6 E3 chips because Ryzen doesn't overclock much doesn't make sense.

 

[Nokiron]

We don't know yet about these v6 E3 Xeons until we see reviews, but if they are anything like all the previous generations of E3 Xeons they will hardly overclock at all beyond normal boost clock. Indeed Intel make no claims whatsoever about OCing these chips.

So saying Ryzen is bad compared to these v6 E3 chips because Ryzen doesn't overclock much doesn't make sense.

I don't think he is comparing it with the Xeons either, but it sure does not make much sense.