Intel Arc A770

[Legacy-ZA]

This is much better than I expected, well done Intel, I am looking forward to what you will bring next.

Next time I upgrade, I might just choose you.

 

[Dirt Chip]

48fps? For $40 more you can get 6700xt - 15% faster in 4k, 25% faster in 1440p and 30% faster in 1080p
6650xt is faster than 6600xt and cost $299 still better performance/$ in 4k, and smashing a770 in 1080p
Should I mention the 45% worse performance per watt?
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Cool, but what does it got to do with what I wrote?
A770 scale better than AMD and NV as resolution increase. That's a fact.
My opinion- don't buy any ARC first gen card.
As for your 6650xt, 6700xt input- wonderful

 

[LFaWolf]

Not bad for a first card. It could be a value card. I actually like the mismatched power plug color.

 

[Dirt Chip]

Wonderful card, great achievement. Wait for the flash sale at 50% in a few month.

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

A770 scale beautiful as resolution increase, jumping over NV and AMD.

Not gonna disagree, it looks like Raja gave it some actual memory bandwidth. The issue is the raster performance is a lil low to be gaming at 4k unless using an older game, which "hopefully" supports DX12 as the drivers are mostly focused on current games.

@W1zzard

Taking the Arc A770 is slightly more complicated than cards from other brands

Missed an "apart" it looks like

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

I was hoping in the month+ since the a380 came out that intel would smooth the drivers out a little.

Looking at performance, its still all over the place. How many years will it take I wonder? Also, so heavily dependent on ReBar....

does TPU have any plans to do a re-review in, say, 3-6 months time to see if drivers have improved at all?

To sum it up:

• Idle power consumption is crazy and has to be fixed
• Power efficiency is a lot lower than the GeForce 30 series despite the latter being produced using a worse process
• Pricing is good but not excellent
• Drivers are a concern
• RTRT performance is actually really good
• XeSS is great but needs minor fixes and adjustments
• Excellent open source Linux drivers

For a first gen product it's actually great. Hopefully people will start buying Intel GPUs, so the company won't give up on its graphics division and it will hopefully result in saner/lower prices for NVIDIA and AMD both of which have seemingly lost touch with reality pricing-wise.

IIRC the A380 that phoronix tested on linux also ran terribly, the drivers are open source but not quite the same branch as the iGPU drivers.

 

[gridracedriver]

"Not bad to first relase." BUT "They are not cards I would buy, immature drivers, low perf/watt, idle power, pricing is good but not excellent"
ecc...
This only means one thing, enough on paper, but nobody buys → FAIL

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

"Not bad to first relase." BUT "They are not cards I would buy, immature drivers, low perf/watt, idle power" ecc

This only means one thing, enough on paper, but nobody buys → FAIL

Honestly if these had come out during the great GPU drought of 2020, intel would have made bank.

Now though, just being there isnt enough. Hopefully intel doesnt abandon the product...

 

[ZetZet]

Good observation. 20 yrs later these will be collectors' items selling for 100 times the MSRP.

Highly doubt it considering both AMD and Nvidia have had "legendary" cards which are paperweights these days and they do not cost a lot. Not even above MSRP, ignoring inflation.

 

[Space Lynx]

I welcome the extra competition, it's good for the consumer.

 

[gridracedriver]

Honestly if these had come out during the great GPU drought of 2020, intel would have made bank.

Now though, just being there isnt enough. Hopefully intel doesnt abandon the product...

True, but they come out too late.
imho.

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

Highly doubt it considering both AMD and Nvidia have had "legendary" cards which are paperweights these days and they do not cost a lot. Not even above MSRP, ignoring inflation.

Depends if ARC is canceled or not. A working Larrabee card just sold for over $5k.

 

[ZetZet]

Depends if ARC is canceled or not. A working Larrabee card just sold for over $5k.

That was a prototype, there aren't many of those, possibly only one. This won't be that.

 

[gridracedriver]

 

[ZetZet]

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Sad part is that this difference is clearly visible on the synthetic benchmarks. Real world performance is just reaaaaaaaaaaaaally bad. If you were to believe in Intel then these cards probably would get faster in time, that's if they don't cancel the whole project.

 

[HD64G]

Unfortunately for Raja, AMD with their GPU pricing lately, buried his newborn just after it was declared alive.

 

[W1zzard]

Missed an "apart" it looks like

Fixed, thanks

I was hoping in the month+ since the a380 came out that intel would smooth the drivers out a little.

They made huge improvements actually. There's still a lot to do of course, but Intel is VERY actively hunting down those bugs. They know that they have to get their software improved

 

[mindfractal]

I wonder that the FP64 (double) performance can be 4.301 TFLOPS (1:4) as shown in the database?

 

[Blueberries]

What I found most interesting is the Ray Tracing performance, Intel has already caught up in this area and has proven they can be competitive in the GPU space.

Efficiency leaves much to be desired, I'm not sure how much of that is hardware and how much of it is driver level optimizations that need to occur.

I won't be in the market for an Intel GPU this tier, but I'm very interested to see where they go with Battlemage and Celestial.

 

[TheDeeGee]

So at 1080p it's as fast as my GTX 1070... GG.

 

[RandallFlagg]

This is better than expected. The fact it bumps up in ranking as resolution increases, and in some cases matches a 3070, shows this is a lot of hardware for the money that is just held back in some areas by drivers.

At 1440P this is showing +12% FPS over the 3060 on average. In places where the drivers are optimized, it's trading blows with a 3060 Ti and 3070.

I call this a win for a premium card at $350 when most 3060s are still selling for $350. As drivers improve, this A770 will probably morph into a 3060 Ti or 3070.

 

[Anarkie]

The resizable BAR requirement is what kills it the most for me. Looking for cheap upgrades for a few computers, but that part kills it for me. Hopefully either they can remove that requirement in some way or Nvidia/AMD reduce their prices a little more.

Right now, I'm eyeing the RX 6600/XT for a few upgrades, but still waiting just a bit longer to see if the prices get a little better by the end of the year.

 

[GunShot]

Meanwhile, ole lying / hateful conspiracy theorists, TweakTown, etc., are all mad and extremely salty right now that Intel refused to send them a review sample.

 

[vmarv]

Good observation. 20 yrs later these will be collectors' items selling for 100 times the MSRP.

For that to happen, the item should be an icon of its times, like the Neo Geo.
No chance in this case.

 

[Dirt Chip]

The most important thing in this lunch is to see that the drives improved, a lot.
Keep the improvement like this, and by the time Arc second gen arrive Intel will have real worthy product to offer (subject to cost of course)