Well although I'm not personally interested on a non ecore intel cpu, I can see that a lot of people would be highly interested simply because there is no other cpu like it. There is an alarming absence of a chip with over 8 big cores that aren't separated by an ocean. Literally, there are none. You either have to go with ecores or split CCDs
Yeah no kididng. It sucks there is no such option for such a chip. Last such chip was Comet Lake the 10 core versions on a single ring bus (10900K and 10850K) and that is outdated IPC so far behind even Zen 3 and stuck at PCIe Gen 3 and lol and released almost 5 years ago and still very outdated as on Skylake derivative architecture in its IPC.
Well maybe Sapphire Rapids but even then its latency sucks and all cores are like separated by an ocean even if latency is more consistent between them and the info is scarce on them besides it just being an insanely expensive platform with stupid enterprise overhead detrimental to consumers and gaming besides just cost unlike Broadwell E and prior Intel HEDT.
For AMD forget about it, Even their Threadripper is still 8 cores then more separated by an ocean as they just stack a bunch of 8 core CCDs into one package.
Zen 6 is maybe the hope but info keeps changing and who knows what they will do with AMD being cheap.
Hopefully intel releases 12 P core Bartlett Lake and it is stable and reliable and can clock a little more than 5GHz with Raptor Cove IPC and its stable and does not degrade and I will buy it immediately and sell my 9800X3D. It mayb be a slight downgrade in some gaming scenarios, but when games get more threaded or the few heavily threaded games (Cities SKyline with large populations and cities) the simplicity and extra cores with only mild 5-7% worse IPC will come so in handy and no hybrid or dual CCD scheduling nightmare crap.
Q3 2025 for pure pcores. That's too freaking late.
But nice upgradability for lga1700, 2021 to 2026.
Way too late but better late than never especially in a world where X86 IPC gains are minimal. Zen 6 seems unknown but even rumors suggest its IPC increase is underwhelming. WIll it finally have the 12 core CCXs or just a rumor? But got to wait 2 friggin years and sick of waiting if it even has it.
Could the 12-core part be reused silicon from some Rapids server chips?
A single 400 mm² die of the four-die big Sapphire Rapids processor would be a candidate... almost. It has 15 cores, DDR5 and PCIe5 controllers and everything. But Intel never mentioned that a single die can be made to work, and also the cores would be Golden Cove, not even Raptor Cove.
Maybe and that would make it a hard pass as that is on a mesh arch which sucks bad for gaming with horrible latency.