Intel Confirms LGA1851 is its Next Desktop CPU Socket

[Gica]

That's 200$ per motherboard upgrade.
So 400$ saved.
Then the 5900X came for 100% free after he reduced consumption of soft drinks for 3-4 months.

Now do the same with my low budget broke setup.

MSI b350 mortar in 2018
2200g
3600 RAM in 2021
5600G in 2022

No dGPU

Almost anyone with an AMD system from 2017+ can upgrade up to 5950X.
What can the 7700K and 8700K motherboard owners upgrade to?

Oh right, only rich people buy intel
Stop defending planned obsolescence.

I don't know if those who buy Intel or AMD are smart or not, but I notice an anomaly with you. More, even. The first is that you upgraded the iGPU and memory. That was your goal, because you don't spend 4 years with a processor with Pentium performance, destroyed by an i3-7100. Combined with the three processors, the expenses were still consistent. Wouldn't it be better to invest in a GTX 1060? Even a 1050Ti destroys the integrated AMD in gaming, it even gives you a fluid experience on YouTube without keeping the processor at 80% (2200G - > 1200 inside).
I'm just saying. You can't say you saved money if you eat dry bread and other seafood.

 

[Richards]

Because Meteor Lake is delayed. They are struggling big time with FPGA fabric, the new node Intel 4, and chiplet design. RL has to soldier on another year at least until early 2024.

Stop lying you d'not know nothing

 

[marios15]

I don't know if those who buy Intel or AMD are smart or not, but I notice an anomaly with you. More, even. The first is that you upgraded the iGPU and memory. That was your goal, because you don't spend 4 years with a processor with Pentium performance, destroyed by an i3-7100. Combined with the three processors, the expenses were still consistent. Wouldn't it be better to invest in a GTX 1060? Even a 1050Ti destroys the integrated AMD in gaming, it even gives you a fluid experience on YouTube without keeping the processor at 80% (2200G - > 1200 inside).
I'm just saying. You can't say you saved money if you eat dry bread and other seafood.

The RAM upgrade was mostly for capacity 2x4GB 2666->2x8GB 3600, both were priced at ~85E on day of purchase.(I would have bought a used 480 if it wasn't for RAM prices in 2018)

I did not need 1050Ti/1060 performance, i'm mostly playing old games (pre 2014)
The integrated GPU on the 2200G actually has h264/265/VP9 decoder+encoder...at least up to 4K60, it would only stutter at 8K. But thank you for your concern.
It can also easily run madVR HDR->SDR + downscaling 4K -> 1080p with lots of options active, without dropping any frames, due to decoding/encoding support.
I guess these are the benefits of having an integrated GPU that is made by an actual GPU company.

Also when your budget is 200$, having to spend another 70-80$ on a motherboard is a lot.

Now I have a better paying job and don't care about the budget, but....I will still be able to upgrade the 5600G up to a 16-core 5950X, or a 5600X+dGPU, or a 5800X3D + dGPU

Do you think the 5800X3D/5900X/5950X will suddenly become slow?
They are still faster than 95% of the CPU market, last time i checked.
I still don't need the dGPU.

But i really like all the CPU options I have for the motherboard, I can pass it down to my family, keep the 5600G and put on a new motherboard before upgrading to anything else.(or keep the 2200G, that's also supported)
Any intel setup, would mean that I must buy everything from scratch every 18 months.

I still don't see any arguments, on why we must abandon the socket.

 

[Gica]

The RAM upgrade was mostly for capacity 2x4GB 2666->2x8GB 3600, both were priced at ~85E on day of purchase.(I would have bought a used 480 if it wasn't for RAM prices in 2018)

I did not need 1050Ti/1060 performance, i'm mostly playing old games (pre 2014)
The integrated GPU on the 2200G actually has h264/265/VP9 decoder+encoder...at least up to 4K60, it would only stutter at 8K. But thank you for your concern.

So, we spend extra money for memory and processor upgrades (hundreds of dollars) but we brag that we can keep a $100 motherboard for 5 years. With an i3-8100 (roughly the same price as the 2200G in 2018) you did better on the decoding/encoding part via igp. For gaming, GTX 1050Ti is superior in all aspects of an igp, it runs games in 1080p with much higher fps than AMD processors can in 720p with Vega inside. For the upgrade, you now had the 8700(K) version, I think you can find it second hand for a little over $100.
In a word: less money spent for a much better feeling. And you kept the same motherboard for 5 years.
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Vega iGPU has big problems in youtube. At 2200G/3200G I start from 1440p@60FPS, the 4K@60FPS rendering is practically World of Stuttering.
I don't know how the 5600G behaves, that's why I propose a test.
1. Launch COSTA RICA IN 4K 60fps HDR (ULTRA HD), set 4k for playback (it doesn't matter what resolution the monitor supports)
2. Launch HWinfo
3. Put the video material in fullscreen
4. Right click on it, select "Stats for nerds"
5. Play
6. Press ALT+TAB to bring HWinfo to the front.
7. Reset the HWinfo timer
8. Wait ~4 minutes and take a SCREEN CAPTURE.
If CPU Usage is below 2% and drop frames is below 1%, it means that the Vega decoder in the 5600G really works well in YouTube.
Below you have a capture with the i5-12500 (UHD 770), but you can get the same performance with the 10th series (UHD 630), this igp being also included in the i3-8100, launched in 2017.