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Intel Confirms March 30 for Rocket Lake-S Launch

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Bam! I've never seen so many posters suffering from small pen0r syndrome than on here every time something is posted about Intel.
And I have never seen so many fanbois jumping to defend a mostly pointless product.

This is largely a pointless CPU, considering they have something that should hopefully be a lot more competitive before the end of the year.
 
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There is 0 reason to get an i7 k varient over an i9 k varient in terms of overclocking. For the most part, they are identical. Intel fucked up making the i9's 8 core with everything else.
You mean that the other way around I take it?
 
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I would go for 11700K or F variant, all others seem pointless.

Why? Non K models are cheaper yet not that much slower, not to mention slower variants don't have that much power consumption, thus can work in cheaper motherboards with weaker / cheaper VRM configurations. At least that is how it should work.
 
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What's the difference between 11700(k) & 11900(k) & wow so many redundant SKUs :wtf:
 
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And I have never seen so many fanbois jumping to defend a mostly pointless product.

This is largely a pointless CPU, considering they have something that should hopefully be a lot more competitive before the end of the year.
It's not pointless if Intel has them actually available to sell. Still a pretty big AMD CPU drought here right now.
 

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It's not pointless if Intel has them actually available to sell. Still a pretty big AMD CPU drought here right now.
Plenty AMD CPUs in stock here, just no 5900X.
 

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What's the difference between 11700(k) & 11900(k) & wow so many redundant SKUs :wtf:
xx9xx is a higher bin, if you're buying to overclock it's better to get the top model.

If you're buying to run stock just get the 11700 it will be within 5%.
 
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You have people like this on both sides just ignore them.

I'm waiting for this review on march 30 but more interested in Alderlake at the end of the year.

Or, just wait for Alder Lake! Not everyone wants a Ryzen.

Ugh. And another new motherboard and DDR5. Can you just imagine the cost of DDR5 at launch in these times? I think I'll wait until the middle of next year before I'll even consider the platform.
 

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Ugh. And another new motherboard and DDR5. Can you just imagine the cost of DDR5 at launch in these times? I think I'll wait until the middle of next year before I'll even consider the platform.
A new motherboard seems to be needed for some Comet owners anyway, dunno how widespread that is tho. I guess nobody knows at this point.
Waiting for Alder doesn't have to mean buying on launch day, I'm in no hurry.
 
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Why? Non K models are cheaper yet not that much slower, not to mention slower variants don't have that much power consumption, thus can work in cheaper motherboards with weaker / cheaper VRM configurations. At least that is how it should work.
This is what I would go for without considering the price. If there is a big enough difference in price I will probably go for the Non K.
 
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Well, people tend to forget 90%+ of computer usage in the world doesn't need more than 6 cores. Single threaded is still paramount, while having enough cores to get through typical workloads/gaming.

Single core performance is always relevant, multicore performance is only relevant in certain situations and those situations diminish the more cores you add.

Obviously I currently use a 5950x so having moar cores is appreciated, but I actually use those cores.

So many nerds get number boners and forget that the numbers are theoretical.
Even most enthusiasts struggle to understand this.
Single core performance is always the most important for interactive applications, and people need to understand that it's a metric of performance per core, not that it means applications are either a single thread or many.

I think crazy how slow, being a budding enthusiast from an earlier era. 1991 to 2001 went from 50 MHz to 2 GHz, 2011 to 2021 we've gone from 3.9 GHz to 5.2 GHz. Could put a finger on the scale a bit by factoring in core count, but that can also just be lumped in with architectural advancements in general. Much slower progress however you slice it.
Performance for single instructions is certainly growing slower than the 90s, but anyone can understand that exponential growth can't continue forever.
It is worth mentioning though that the increases in SIMD performance over the last 10 years is substantial, which matters a lot for computational intensive workloads like video encoding, rendering, etc.

Has its upsides though. In the mid-90s, to splurge on a top-end home/SOHO rig sans monitor not only meant spending $5000+ (in today's dollars), but also accepting it'd be severely outclassed within a couple of years.
Yeah, a $3000 PC from ~1996 was "obsolete" for top games within 1-2 years, especially since all APIs were changing back then.

This is largely a pointless CPU, considering they have something that should hopefully be a lot more competitive before the end of the year.
Even if Intel manages to ship Alder Lake before the end of 2021, what kind of availability do you honestly think there will be? Keep in mind that we don't know when it will release.
There is also the extra uncertainty caused by this new hybrid architecture, it can be months before software support is good enough, assuming the Alder Lake will not be a total flop.

Rocket Lake, especially the 6-core i5-11600K, will bring good competition to the barely available Zen 3, and probably even greater value when Alder Lake eventually ships.
 
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Ugh. And another new motherboard and DDR5. Can you just imagine the cost of DDR5 at launch in these times? I think I'll wait until the middle of next year before I'll even consider the platform.
I'm going to be skipping both Alderlake and Zen 4 and DDR5 in the initial versions.

I basically built my current rig in Dec 2019 so I won't be looking to upgrade until maybe 2025.

I may go up in core count add more ram, and a videocard but not doing a platform refresh for 5 years. This way when the times comes to upgrade its a large one and feels worth it.
 
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I'm going to skipping both Alderlake and Zen 4 and DDR5 in the initial versions.

I basically built my current rig in Dec 2019 so I won't be looking to upgrade until maybe 2025.
Hi,
Yep x299 built three years ago
z490 last year
So unless rocket lake is dirt cheap I see no reason to replace 10900k
Alder lake well that's a different board so no.
 
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So Intel is still going ahead with the preorder 2 weeks before independent reviews get rolled out? If so, this is probably the most absurd thing to do. If they are trying to win people's confidence, this certainly is not helping. In fact given that Alder Lake is expected in Q4 is not helping.
if Anands 11700k review is anything to go by... people are gonna be mega disappoint.
IPC gain numbers are accurate... for FP benchmarks AVX-512 benchmarks. Games are even to regressing previous gen due to higher cache latencies.
 
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Why even bother with Rocket Lake? Wait for Alder Lake.

I'll wait a few years for DDR5 to mature. My 3900X and 3070 don't need upgrading.
 
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