intel core i7 Owners Club

[peche]

(Gigabyte Z68XP-UD3 Mainbooard)

how long have you been using this board?
OC settings? i have the same one!

 

[RealNeil]

Consider yourself lucky. 1866Mhz seemed to be more normal when fully loading it, at least from what I had seen.

The Mushkin did the deed, (Using the Intel XMP Profile) but some GSKill 2133MHz that I had wouldn't. I never tried any of my 2400Mhz sticks in the 2600K.

how long have you been using this board?
OC settings? i have the same one!

I've had it for about a year.
I had crossfire problems with a prior board (ASRock Z68 Extreme7 Gen3) and bought this to use during the RMA process. I never got around to using the replaced ASRock board since this one was running pretty good at 4.4Ghz. and my two R9-280X cards ran crossfire perfectly in it.
I used a Corsair H80 to cool the 2600K with a Push/Pull configuration.

 

[peche]

I've had it for about a year.
I had crossfire problems with a prior board (ASRock Z68 Extreme7 Gen3) and bought this to use during the RMA process. I never got around to using the replaced ASRock board since this one was running pretty good at 4.4Ghz. and my two R9-280X cards ran crossfire perfectly in it.
I used a Corsair H80 to cool the 2600K with a Push/Pull configuration.

nice, mine is also kinda year old, never OC cause i have a locked processor!

Regards,

 

[Aquinus]

nice, mine is also kinda year old, never OC cause i have a locked processor!

Regards,

Maybe it's just my 3820 but, I thought that locked processors with turbo could do 4 additional bins on turbo (for example, mine is 38 at stock but, I can up to 42.) Maybe it's my 3820, which is a "partially" locked CPU but, I thought that was more in reference to the BCLK straps but, I could be wrong. Turbo is less necessary when your highest non-turbo multiplier puts you at 4.5Ghz. It's how you do higher overclocks on the 3820 and I used to be able to do it without an overclock or altered voltages just fine but now it won't even boot with it but, I think that was just a BIOS update that made it less stable. Considering how well my 3820 handles stuff I throw at it, 4.3Ghz is more than enough. I don't really need to coax 4.65Ghz out of it again, that was really just for fun. It doesn't gain me a whole lot though in reality.

This is what I've been running for the last month or so.

 

[peche]

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Maybe it's just my 3820 but, I thought that locked processors with turbo could do 4 additional bins on turbo (for example, mine is 38 at stock but, I can up to 42.) Maybe it's my 3820, which is a "partially" locked CPU but, I thought that was more in reference to the BCLK straps but, I could be wrong. Turbo is less necessary when your highest non-turbo multiplier puts you at 4.5Ghz. It's how you do higher overclocks on the 3820 and I used to be able to do it without an overclock or altered voltages just fine but now it won't even boot with it but, I think that was just a BIOS update that made it less stable. Considering how well my 3820 handles stuff I throw at it, 4.3Ghz is more than enough. I don't really need to coax 4.65Ghz out of it again, that was really just for fun. It doesn't gain me a whole lot though in reality.

This is what I've been running for the last month or so.
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there are a few things to do on my locked chip, but is kinda worthless....
im looking forward a "K" version someday

Regards,

 

[Mussels]

Maybe it's just my 3820 but, I thought that locked processors with turbo could do 4 additional bins on turbo (for example, mine is 38 at stock but, I can up to 42.) Maybe it's my 3820, which is a "partially" locked CPU but, I thought that was more in reference to the BCLK straps but, I could be wrong. Turbo is less necessary when your highest non-turbo multiplier puts you at 4.5Ghz. It's how you do higher overclocks on the 3820 and I used to be able to do it without an overclock or altered voltages just fine but now it won't even boot with it but, I think that was just a BIOS update that made it less stable. Considering how well my 3820 handles stuff I throw at it, 4.3Ghz is more than enough. I don't really need to coax 4.65Ghz out of it again, that was really just for fun. It doesn't gain me a whole lot though in reality.

This is what I've been running for the last month or so.
View attachment 68274

my chips on all my boards let me run two multis below the max on all cores. the final two can work for turbo on top, but i tend to not bother. definitely more than 4x multis higher.

 

[Kanan]

I'm a happy owner of a i7 3820 since about 2 years now. It's my first Intel since I had a Pentium 166 MMX over 14-15 years ago. After that I went AMD (it started with the Thunderbird 700) because they were better. I switched from a Phenom II 940 @ 3,3 GHz that finally was too slow to produce any playable frames in BF4 - mainly because of DDR2 800 bandwidth limitations I think (Crysis 3 worked fine hehe). I got the i7 3820 used over ebay because I wanted to have a i7 for future proofing and new ones were too expensive back then. I then heard about a special processor, the i7 3820, which goes relatively cheap with PCI-E 3.0 support, because people think its not overclockable. That drove the price down a notch. Alternative would have been a i7 2600K/2700K back then, but I wanted a platform with newest features like PCI-E 3.0 etc. Well, so here I am, I'm pretty happy with it, played a lot of BF4 and Crysis 3 and used it overclocked to 4,3 GHz since the first day. And I want to use it for a long time to come. My good old Phenom II 940 was good for about 5 years for me - this CPU here is double the power of it - will it last 5 years too? Let's see. ;-)

 

[hapkiman]

Just finished my Skylake i7 6700k build with a MSI Z170A Gaming M7 mobo. I have to say I'm very pleased with the results so far. Man this proc is cool running, idling in the teens with a two year old H80i. RAM is Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3000MHz, 2x8GB. Still getting settled in and will start pushing things a bit very soon. Only running it a 4.4GHz right now. System seems rock solid and is running very nicely. Rounding things out with a beastly MSI Gaming GTX 980 Ti 6GB.

Gotta give love to that guy who posted an i7 870, What a proc! I remember very well my best friend ran one forever when I had a i7 920. Loved those Lynnfields and Bloomfields. What a great group of CPUs.

 

[peche]

I'm a happy owner of a i7 3820 since about 2 years now. It's my first Intel since I had a Pentium 166 MMX over 14-15 years ago. After that I went AMD (it started with the Thunderbird 700) because they were better. I switched from a Phenom II 940 @ 3,3 GHz that finally was too slow to produce any playable frames in BF4 - mainly because of DDR2 800 bandwidth limitations I think (Crysis 3 worked fine hehe). I got the i7 3820 used over ebay because I wanted to have a i7 for future proofing and new ones were too expensive back then. I then heard about a special processor, the i7 3820, which goes relatively cheap with PCI-E 3.0 support, because people think its not overclockable. That drove the price down a notch. Alternative would have been a i7 2600K/2700K back then, but I wanted a platform with newest features like PCI-E 3.0 etc. Well, so here I am, I'm pretty happy with it, played a lot of BF4 and Crysis 3 and used it overclocked to 4,3 GHz since the first day. And I want to use it for a long time to come. My good old Phenom II 940 was good for about 5 years for me - this CPU here is double the power of it - will it last 5 years too? Let's see. ;-)

nice, sandy -E, brave processors, i love sandies because of they are the last processors with soldered IHS, so heat is not a problem with them, also are beasts for OC.

Gotta give love to that guy who posted an i7 870, What a proc! I remember very well my best friend ran one forever when I had a i7 920. Loved those Lynnfields and Bloomfields. What a great group of CPUs.

same here! i don still own a 870!

Regards,

 

[Aquinus]

nice, sandy -E, brave processors, i love sandies because of they are the last processors with soldered IHS, so heat is not a problem with them, also are beasts for OC.

I thought that all skt2011 CPUs have soldered heat spreaders, even I think skt2011-3 CPU do as well. SB was the last mainstream Intel CPU that was soldered.

 

[peche]

I thought that all skt2011 CPUs have soldered heat spreaders,

no intel stopped soldering processors on SB, by the time that Ivy came to market all processors came with shitty paste, actually im not 100% sure that Sandy -E has soldering....
even the new skylake and haswell -E came with paste... that's confirmed....


Regards,

 

[Aquinus]

no intel stopped soldering processors on SB, by the time that Ivy came to market all processors came with shitty paste, actually im not 100% sure that Sandy -E has soldering....
even the new skylake and haswell -E came with paste... that's confirmed....


Regards,

It must just be skt2011-3 then, because all CPUs on skt2011 were soldered, I'm very certain of that.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Intel-Core-i-74960X,23270.html

A tweaker from the Coolaler forums has de-lidded an i7-4960X and noted that the CPU die is soldered to the IHS.

 

[peche]

It must just be skt2011-3 then, because all CPUs on skt2011 were soldered, I'm very certain of that.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Intel-Core-i-74960X,23270.html

interesting fact!
thanks for providing the good info...

 

[Kanan]

Yes, the Sandy-E/Ivy-E are soldered. Let's see how long I'll drive this CPU/MB/Ram, I hope for a long time. When performance starts to get low I'll try a higher OC too, perhaps.

 

[Outback Bronze]

I believe my 5960x is soldered,

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/intel-core-i7-5960x-de-lidded-haswell-e-uses-soldered-tim.html

 

[R-T-B]

I believe my 5960x is soldered,

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/intel-core-i7-5960x-de-lidded-haswell-e-uses-soldered-tim.html

I took apart a dead 5820k. Soldered, FWIW.

 

[Aquinus]

Yes, the Sandy-E/Ivy-E are soldered. Let's see how long I'll drive this CPU/MB/Ram, I hope for a long time. When performance starts to get low I'll try a higher OC too, perhaps.

My P9X79 Deluxe used to be able to get my 3820 up to 4.75Ghz stable with a 125Mhz bclk strap without too much issue but, a BIOS update crippled my ability to use the 125Mhz strap and I've been too lazy to figure out why. I figured if my 3820 every becomes not enough that just about any skt-2011 i7 will be an upgrade. Not to say that the 3820 is a bad CPU, it just requires a little bit of work to break 4.4Ghz since you're limited by the "partially unlocked" multiplier. Down side of 125Mhz bclk strap is that turbo doesn't start until 4.65Ghz since 36x125 (4.5Ghz,) is the same multiplier as the stock non-turbo so configuring offset voltages is a tad bit trickier. Just some food for thought.

 

[peche]

well … extreme i7's aren't the processor that I need, I'm pretty sure, I wish intel will make someday a variant of regular i7's with the option of no integrated video, a i7 without that feature in the chip, I know that the extreme versions does not come with video, but my question is:

Does Intel just disables that feature or is build without video chip?

sorry for the dumb question … I may be out of orbit!

 

[Aquinus]

well … extreme i7's aren't the processor that I need, I'm pretty sure, I wish intel will make someday a variant of regular i7's with the option of no integrated video, a i7 without that feature in the chip, I know that the extreme versions does not come with video, but my question is:

Does Intel just disables that feature or is build without video chip?

sorry for the dumb question … I may be out of orbit!

skt-2011 and 2011-3 CPUs completely lack an iGPU. It's not disabled, it's just not there. Extreme edition CPUs tend to have more L3 cache per core than their lesser companions however, it's worth noting that the 3820 and 4820k both have the same amount of L3 per core as their extreme edition companions (the 3820 and 4820k have 10Mb versus the 8Mb found on mainstream i7s.)

You could also try finding a skt2011(or -3) with monitor connections which you'll find none of unless it's a server board with something like a crappy ES1000.

 

[Kanan]

My P9X79 Deluxe used to be able to get my 3820 up to 4.75Ghz stable with a 125Mhz bclk strap without too much issue but, a BIOS update crippled my ability to use the 125Mhz strap and I've been too lazy to figure out why. I figured if my 3820 every becomes not enough that just about any skt-2011 i7 will be an upgrade. Not to say that the 3820 is a bad CPU, it just requires a little bit of work to break 4.4Ghz since you're limited by the "partially unlocked" multiplier. Down side of 125Mhz bclk strap is that turbo doesn't start until 4.65Ghz since 36x125 (4.5Ghz,) is the same multiplier as the stock non-turbo so configuring offset voltages is a tad bit trickier. Just some food for thought.

Appreciate it, thanks. I'm not sure if I will ever overclock the CPU farther, maybe I just change to another system if its really too weak someday. But yeah we'll see... that day is far away I hope. And btw I like "a little bit of work". I don't like it when things are too easy, like it is more often than I want in these times. Also I like the fact that it is a real CPU withou iGPU, I don't want these and most of all I don't like "CPUs" like Haswell or Skylake that are more GPU than CPU nowadays ... thats like buying something and get something else, or just being tricked. I don't like them and since Ivy Bridge I don't like the consumer platform at all. So probably I'll stay E-platform forever or switch to AMD and buy whatever they have, what I hope will be competetive and nice in the future. Nothing would I like more than to switch back to an AMD CPU. But don't get me wrong, right now I like my i7 / my system and will try to use it as long as possible.

 

[peche]

Appreciate it, thanks. I'm not sure if I will ever overclock the CPU farther, maybe I just change to another system if its really too weak someday. But yeah we'll see... that day is far away I hope. And btw I like "a little bit of work". I don't like it when things are too easy, like it is more often than I want in these times. Also I like the fact that it is a real CPU withou iGPU, I don't want these and most of all I don't like "CPUs" like Haswell or Skylake that are more GPU than CPU nowadays ... thats like buying something and get something else, or just being tricked. I don't like them and since Ivy Bridge I don't like the consumer platform at all. So probably I'll stay E-platform forever or switch to AMD and buy whatever they have, what I hope will be competetive and nice in the future. Nothing would I like more than to switch back to an AMD CPU. But don't get me wrong, right now I like my i7 / my system and will try to use it as long as possible.

welll, about the platform I done like it to much either, as you said, there not so much "New" or interesting things to see when they releases new things, I feel tricked too, I was waiting for a 4.0GHZ processor and 4.5GHZ on turbo, without half of its die being a GPU, priceless intel! actually no soldered processor? well there are a few things that I don’t like so much intel does, but its too far the distance that separates intel CPU' from AMD things.,..

 

[Tomgang]

I now i have posted before, but the old cpu just wont die. The last bit of time i have realy torture the old I7 920 cpu whit benchmark after benchmark and a lot of gamming and editing. But it looks like i can realy only kill it if i do it on perpose like giving it way to much voltage. These old first gen i7 are realy brave soldiers and are pretty hard to kill under normal use. Why because the old I7 920 just wont give up already... dammit.

So here are some bench result of the old sucker.

CPU-Z benchmark

A new but not much better 3Dmark Firestrike

And last but not least. Just die now old cpu so i can upgrade to something new and shiny. I have had this old CPU for like nealy 7 years now and i realy want to try something new but my whife who hate computer has told me no new pc before it is dead like in completely dead like a dead old cpu or mohterboard.

 

[peche]

I now i have posted before, but the old cpu just wont die. The last bit of time i have realy torture the old I7 920 cpu whit benchmark after benchmark and a lot of gamming and editing. But it looks like i can realy only kill it if i do it on perpose like giving it way to much voltage. These old first gen i7 are realy brave soldiers and are pretty hard to kill under normal use. Why because the old I7 920 just wont give up already... dammit.

So here are some bench result of the old sucker.

CPU-Z benchmark

A new but not much better 3Dmark Firestrike

And last but not least. Just die now old cpu so i can upgrade to something new and shiny. I have had this old CPU for like nealy 7 years now and i realy want to try something new but my whife who hate computer has told me no new pc before it is dead like in completely dead like a dead old cpu or mohterboard.

but .. do you really need a new system?
i don feel the need of replacing none of my old i7's..... both are working flawless...
Regards,

 

[Mussels]

apart fom power consumption, those chips are still really good to this day.

 

[Kanan]

I now i have posted before, but the old cpu just wont die. The last bit of time i have realy torture the old I7 920 cpu whit benchmark after benchmark and a lot of gamming and editing. But it looks like i can realy only kill it if i do it on perpose like giving it way to much voltage. These old first gen i7 are realy brave soldiers and are pretty hard to kill under normal use. Why because the old I7 920 just wont give up already... dammit.

So here are some bench result of the old sucker.

CPU-Z benchmark

A new but not much better 3Dmark Firestrike

And last but not least. Just die now old cpu so i can upgrade to something new and shiny. I have had this old CPU for like nealy 7 years now and i realy want to try something new but my whife who hate computer has told me no new pc before it is dead like in completely dead like a dead old cpu or mohterboard.

apart fom power consumption, those chips are still really good to this day.

Yep, but don't forget it has an old platform which lacks features. No PCI-E 3.0, very few Sata 3 or none at all (I'm not sure), no M2, no USB 3.1 or even 3.0 (?) ... it's a lot, and these are only the most important. You can't stay on the same platform forever, well only, if you don't need those features. And the processor itself get's old too, I don't think it's power for games will be good forever, or is even now. And for applications: you never have enough power.

These are enough arguments to upgrade - convince your wife I'd say.

Edit: Oh I've just seen you use 970 SLI! Wow, a i7 920 is not enough for 970 SLI, I think you get CPU limitied sometimes (not always). Your machine isn't very well balanced, I think you should really upgrade now.