Intel Core i9-13900KS Confirmed with 150W Base Power and 6 GHz Boost Speed

[Waldorf]

@Gica

little OT here:
virtually all "classic" cars worth north of 1M, are usually sports cars (less than 4 seats) from about a dozen (mainly European) brands.
and most sports cars that are produced less than 500 times, increase in value within a decade.

to consider consumption isnt stupid, even at this level:
a porsche 918 spyder has almost 900HP, yet is more fuel efficient, with less emissions than a 150HP toyota prius...

its one thing if something is "pricey", that doesnt mean i need to waste money/resources for no reason (as in gaining minute perf improvements).

 

[Vayra86]

It is definitely a better processor than 13900K. For many it matters that it is the best on this socket.
If we are still talking about Ferrari, the sports car does not justify its price in relation to a classic car. However, they can be bought and we all dream of one, right?
It's stupid, if I may, to bring consumption into discussion at this level. If you are serving a meal at a luxury restaurant, don't be afraid of the price of a bun.

Its definitely better how? Same floor plan, core count, etc.

There is a perception it is binned better, but that is simply not confirmed by the spec sheet. The spec sheet is very clear: you need more base TDP at the bottom end of the voltage scale (to feed a baseclock 200mhz), and in the top end Intel has a disclaimer because all frequencies are 'up to'.

So sure, you can win the lottery on a KS. You can also not, and simply waste the money based on perception and high hopes that its actually a better bin. Again: Intel created a spec sheet for this product that allows them to use the exact same bin as a K model.

A Ferrari simply has a higher top speed and acceleration. The KS adds another layer of uncertainty and perceived value on top, that never really has to materialize for Intel to not lie to you.

Its never stupid to bring consumption into discussion at ANY level, imho, and most importantly, it should be in play for those who can afford the top end and live in excess. Its a matter of responsibility. The meal at a luxury restaurant is not a problem. The problem isn't the price of the bun either. The problem is, that effectively the same buns keep creating bigger footprints per user, and it gets pretty silly if you consider those bigger footprints are suffering heavy diminishing returns in effective performance wins. Matter of fact, in the vast majority of use cases you won't ever see them, or is margin of error territory.

 

[JustBenching]

Its definitely better how? Same floor plan, core count, etc.

There is a perception it is binned better, but that is simply not confirmed by the spec sheet. The spec sheet is very clear: you need more base TDP at the bottom end of the voltage scale (to feed a baseclock 200mhz), and in the top end Intel has a disclaimer because all frequencies are 'up to'.

So sure, you can win the lottery on a KS. You can also not, and simply waste the money based on perception and high hopes that its actually a better bin. Again: Intel created a spec sheet for this product that allows them to use the exact same bin as a K model.

A Ferrari simply has a higher top speed and acceleration. The KS adds another layer of uncertainty and perceived value on top, that never really has to materialize for Intel to not lie to you.

Its never stupid to bring consumption into discussion at ANY level, imho, and most importantly, it should be in play for those who can afford the top end and live in excess. Its a matter of responsibility. The meal at a luxury restaurant is not a problem. The problem isn't the price of the bun either. The problem is, that effectively the same buns keep creating bigger footprints per user, and it gets pretty silly if you consider those bigger footprints are suffering heavy diminishing returns in effective performance wins. Matter of fact, in the vast majority of use cases you won't ever see them, or is margin of error territory.

Usually the ks's are better binned. It doesn't look like it, because of the boosted clocks which require a lot more voltage - but if - let's say someone tried to match the k clocks on a ks, he can do so on a much lower wattage I presume. Now you might ask, if you are planning to run the KS at 5.5ghz, why bother, just buy the normal K. Well, it depends, the 13900k stock draws 300w or something, if the KS could get me the same clocks at 250w, that would be worth it for me, even if it cost 200-250€ extra.

For most users of course it's useless and irrelevant, but I guess that's why it's a "special edition"