Intel i5 10400f

[Solid State Soul ( SSS )]

There isn't a problem in getting something faster if i want to, alone the fact that intel is better for gaming gives it an advantage over amd.

Faster in like 29% IPC improvements with guaranteed boost to 4.3ghz or above SURE !!!
but bro..... its just 100mhz, and intel has lower IPC then AMD atm

 

[gasolin]

Yeah damn right, to the OP, many people would be pleased to have a system as good as yours and here you are debating about throwing it out because its 4.1ghz instead of 4.2ghz,
lamo am so triggered right now , the length people would go for very futile things lol

Not throwing it out, changing it to get it a more stable pc, ram are on the qvl list of my mb

Just an extra tip, intel rocket lake 11th gen CPUs will launch this month, and they will support memory speeds up to 3200mhz native with unlocked memory overclocking support on B and H motherboards in addition to small performance improvements, should you want to jump to intel, wait for rocket lake 11th gen CPUs, like the the new i5 11400 and please... dont buy Z boards on non k CPUs, especially now when B an H boards are going to support memory overclocking

There are not many B560 stock

Faster in like 29% IPC improvements with guaranteed boost to 4.3ghz or above SURE !!!
but bro..... its just 100mhz, and intel has lower IPC then AMD atm

Not a problem buying something faster, i was refering to an intel cpu that can be oced like a i7 9700kf, 10600k (both costs about the same)

Why the heck would you want to run a 4.3ghz all core overclock when you game????

All core overclocks are stupid and the only benefit is if you're doing something mult-threaded like for sustained periods. You want the cpu to run with AMD's boost algorithms which will improve low threaded performance which is most important for gaming. Using an all core overclock, you throw away all the single thread performance for all core perf which I'm not sure your using? It reads to me like you are using/clocking the Ryzen incorrectly. You're syustem resetting is a sign of a bad overclock, and with all core overclocks on Ryzen 2/3, it is DANGEROUS if you did not test your fitness controller to find your max voltage for your X clocks.

I suggest you set it back to default, go into advanced overcloocking, change PBO to manual. Under PBO under limits set PPT/TDC/EDC to the max of your cooling, like that cpu is 65w so try 105w mabye? Then set your boost clock override to 100mhz, and leave voltage on auto, save it and retry.

im gonna try that later

 

[WHDS]

With your graphics card, changing cpu won't give you better performance, it is literally just a waste of money

 

[gasolin]

Not talking about a faster cpu, but something that would run more stable

 

[arabus]

Hello.
The z490 is good enough for 10400f processor but if same price better the z590.
Very strong processor.

 

[WHDS]

Not talking about a faster cpu, but something that would run more stable

If you want stability, remove your cpu overclock

 

[Deleted member 178884]

1) What RAM do you have? Looks like you have the flare x 3200 14-14-14-34 bin which is in fact bdie and can be pushed beyond 3600CL16 without any issues on that kind of board.
2) Looking at your specs, why are you running a 1440p144hz panel with a 1660 Super? You should be considering a GPU upgrade as apposed to a CPU upgrade, no? I would imagine the GPU is holding your gaming performance and similar significantly back further than the CPU is.....
3) As mentioned here, don't bother with an all-core overclock, you're only wasting your time.

 

[arabus]

I have and power also.
With 4 stick DR.

 

[gasolin]

1) What RAM do you have? Looks like you have the flare x 3200 14-14-14-34 bin which is in fact bdie and can be pushed beyond 3600CL16 without any issues on that kind of board.
2) Looking at your specs, why are you running a 1440p144hz panel with a 1660 Super? You should be considering a GPU upgrade as apposed to a CPU upgrade, no? I would imagine the GPU is holding your gaming performance and similar significantly back further than the CPU is.....
3) As mentioned here, don't bother with an all-core overclock, you're only wasting your time.

Not updated G.Skill RipjawsV F4-3200C16D-16GVGB

If you want stability, remove your cpu overclock

My cpu isn't oced above stock speed it doesn't run more than 4.2ghz and had it at 4.1ghz

Current oc,settings
I suggest you set it back to default, go into advanced overcloocking, change PBO to manual. Under PBO under limits set PPT/TDC/EDC to the max of your cooling, like that cpu is 65w so try 105w mabye? Then set your boost clock override to 100mhz, and leave voltage on auto, save it and retry.

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Why the heck would you want to run a 4.3ghz all core overclock when you game????

All core overclocks are stupid and the only benefit is if you're doing something mult-threaded like for sustained periods. You want the cpu to run with AMD's boost algorithms which will improve low threaded performance which is most important for gaming. Using an all core overclock, you throw away all the single thread performance for all core perf which I'm not sure your using? It reads to me like you are using/clocking the Ryzen incorrectly. You're syustem resetting is a sign of a bad overclock, and with all core overclocks on Ryzen 2/3, it is DANGEROUS if you did not test your fitness controller to find your max voltage for your X clocks.

I suggest you set it back to default, go into advanced overcloocking, change PBO to manual. Under PBO under limits set PPT/TDC/EDC to the max of your cooling, like that cpu is 65w so try 105w mabye? Then set your boost clock override to 100mhz, and leave voltage on auto, save it and retry.

Do i have to set the samme value for the 3 settings PPT/TDC/EDC ?

 

[Deleted member 178884]

Are you sure it's the CPU holding you back here???????? I don't understand why you're so adamant on pushing the CPU beyond stock given you're trying to run 1440p144hz with a 1660 Super, in basically any modern AAA game you'll never hit that with a 1660 super - RAM overclock instead IMO since you're going to risk degrading your CPU pushing it for single digit frame rate increases

 

[gasolin]

I normally don't run any cpu at stock speed, i just want highest speed from my cpu without going crazy in vcore, i didn't win in the silicone lottery with my cpu

Atm im using the suggested setting but need to increase PPT/TDC/EDC since it doesn't give me anything beyound 50mhz and therefor not nothing extra that makes a difference

So fare i haven't stress,stability tested the oc, i don't care about risking degrading my CPU pushing it for single digit frame rate increases as long as vcorre isn't cazy high (i wouldn't run my cpu at 1.400 volt 24/7)

I haven't heard any having a cpu that can't last a few years even oc'ed ,therefor some mb goes for alot since it's not the generation of cpus's who don't work 10 years or more later, like a i 5 2500k and i7 2600k, it's the mb, the cpu out live the mb's unless you extreem beyound normal values

Im actually very happy with my msi gtx 1660 super gaming it's great and very silent in all the games i play, it's just so f..... expensive upgrading to something faster that im not gonna do it and i also don't want something noisy

 

[Deleted member 178884]

Zen2 is different, it generally doesn't scale beyond stock well and you're better off overclocking the RAM instead. Forget tuning the CPU and go for RAM instead, even then as mentioned you won't net nothing given your GPU is too weak for the resolution given.

 

[thesmokingman]

Do i have to set the samme value for the 3 settings PPT/TDC/EDC ?

No, and at stock the values aren't the same either. At stock, PBO is usually enabled and that alone will net 88w. That is with PPT/TDC/EDC on auto. Setting all three to 105 for example will limit TDP to 105w, TDC to 105amps which is slightly over a 105w TDP stock cpu of 95amps, and EDC to 105 will set your current to somewhere between stock and that of a 105w TDP cpu. In other words not a huge push.

Default for your cpu is 88/60/95. One could keep raising the TDP for more performance, It is only limited by your cooling.

I normally don't run any cpu at stock speed, i just want highest speed from my cpu without going crazy in vcore, i didn't win in the silicone lottery with my cpu

Atm im using the suggested setting but need to increase PPT/TDC/EDC since it doesn't give me anything beyound 50mhz and therefor not nothing extra that makes a difference

So fare i haven't stress,stability tested the oc, i don't care about risking degrading my CPU pushing it for single digit frame rate increases as long as vcorre isn't cazy high (i wouldn't run my cpu at 1.400 volt 24/7)

I haven't heard any having a cpu that can't last a few years even oc'ed ,therefor some mb goes for alot since it's not the generation of cpus's who don't work 10 years or more later, like a i 5 2500k and i7 2600k, it's the mb, the cpu out live the mb's unless you extreem beyound normal values

Im actually very happy with my msi gtx 1660 super gaming it's great and very silent in all the games i play, it's just so f..... expensive upgrading to something faster that im not gonna do it and i also don't want something noisy

If you're happy then leave it alone. The AMD boost algorithm is very intelligent and will maximize performance while reducing degradation. Running the all core overclock will do the opposite and speed degradation because you'll be forcing the cpu to run max overclock in all situations at all times. And the worse is when it's a high duty usage case like when the cpu is hammered to the brink, there are no safety algorithms in place cuz you disabled them by running manually.

If you only got 50mhz when you set override to 100mhz, that means you most likely don't have enough cooling. Past 68c boost is limited, at 95c it throttles.

 

[gasolin]

Atm moment i notice some lag,stutter (not fluid performance from my cpu) very annoying, a few days installed the 20H2 im not sjure if iot's a little buggy.

When first upgarded to a 3600 i lowered oc and ram setting to something more normal and godt all kind of bsod (manually oc), it's still not perfect PPT/TDC/EDC is at 125

Cpu cooler scythe fuma 2

 

[thesmokingman]

Atm moment i notice some lag,stutter (not fluid performance from my cpu) very annoying, a few days installed the 20H2 im not sjure if iot's a little buggy.

When first upgarded to a 3600 i lowered oc and ram setting to something more normal and godt all kind of bsod (manually oc), it's still not perfect PPT/TDC/EDC is at 125

Seriously? Did you ignore the fact that you're chip is already too hot? Thus jacking up the PBO limits will do nothing but throttle, throttle throttle.

 

[gasolin]

what do mean by to hot it never goes beyond low 80's at max load in prime 96 small fft

 

[thesmokingman]

what do mean by to hot it never goes beyond low 80's at max load in prime 96 small fft

I find that hard to believe if you're suggesting that at 125 PBO limits it achieves that. Anyways, if as you say cooling is not an issue, then that could only mean your chip can't handle a generally easy 100mhz boost override.

 

[gasolin]

I never said i won the silicone lottery

 

[docnorth]

You can check i5-10400f review here on TPU. All core max frequency is 4GHz, you could add 100-110MHz by increasing baseclock (BCLK). You can also increase the duration of max turbo frequency ("power limit"), but you won't notice any gains on 10400. Z490 motherbords are now affordable and available, but personally I would wait to see what a i5-11400f + B560 (or H570) combination has to offer.

 

[gasolin]

I just wanted the cpu to run at turbo speed on all core (max speed not just 4ghz on all cores), with older 4000 cpus you could run the cpu at turbo speed on all core all the time, the 10400f don't run max speed on more than a few cores and only 4ghz on all core as the highest speed on all cores

 

[Gmr_Chick]

What in the actual hell? I think you're seriously confused here (or something) OP. First you said this in response to a post made by another user:

i want to use 3200mhz ram

And yet, when I told you I was running a 3600 with a B550 board and 3200MHz ram, you tell me this:

Theres nothing wrong with my mb's ability to run 3200mhz ram

WTF? I'm with @Solid State Soul ( SSS ) on this one. I think I just felt my soul leave my body...

 

[Deleted member 202104]

I just wanted the cpu to run at turbo speed on all core (max speed not just 4ghz on all cores), with older 4000 cpus you could run the cpu at turbo speed on all core all the time, the 10400f don't run max speed on more than a few cores and only 4ghz on all core as the highest speed on all cores

If you really want to be technical, the official base clock speed for the 10400(f) is 2.9GHz. The turbo speed for all cores is 4GHz which the chip will run at all day. Should your use case be less than 6 cores, the CPU will boost up to 4.3 (4.2 in reality) on 1-3 core usage.

Seriously, a 6 core / 12 thread CPU that will run all day @ 4Ghz and actually stays within the 65w TDP for $150 or less is a hard CPU to find fault with.

And to echo what others (repeatedly) have said, with a 1660 Super, the CPU doesn't matter. At all.

If you want more performance, leave your 3600 in place, set PBO, and save up for a faster GPU.

If all you want is to change over to Intel, by all means, you do you. You just won't see any difference.

I say this from experience. I had a 1080 and changed from a 10400 to a 10850k. The exact difference in gaming @ 1440p was *zero*.

 

[John Naylor]

Switching platforms brings a whole list of compatibility issues with regard to what will be replaced but a $148 10400F versus a $325 5600x makes a lot of them go away.

 

[Why_Me]

2.6 and 4.4 ghz vs the 10400f 2.9 and 4.3 ghz, isn't that a smaller difference than between my ryzen 5 3600 and a i5 5 10400f when you consider that intel is still faster in games, if i/you want a faster amd gaming cpu it's a ryzen 5 5600x = same price as a i5 10400f and a good mb also a 10400f is cheaper than a 11400f

A 11400F + B560 board supports 3200MHz RAM and the price difference between a 10400F vs 11400F is like $25 .. vs $220 for the 3600.

 

[Zach_01]

Im having a little trouble with my msi x470 gaming pro max and my new ryzen 5 3600

It's not 100% stable at 4.2 ghz so i have to run it at 4.1 ghz but i want a little more power or atlest to run it at 4.2ghz on all cores, stock is max 4.1 ghz on all cores.

I got the ryzen 3600 bulk but had to use the platic cover for the old ryzen i sold so returning it can be a challenge

Played project cars 3 and for some reason i got a reset of the game so i had to start all over again, it's somehow related to oc of the cpu, so i lowered it to 4.1 although i want 4.2 or 4.3ghz on all cores.

I want it stable so im thinking of a intel i5 10400f and an msi mb (i know msi and they have alot of fan headers) instead of trying to buy a diffrent ryzen cpu so i can get a better cpu (silicone lottery) and to the the cover so i can return my currrent ryzen cpu

Question, can i run the cpu at 4.3ghz on all core? What is the max speed i can set it to on all cores ?

Z490 or Z590, what is the difference ?

You got it all wrong there....
Just because the CPU has 4.2GHz max boost doesn’t mean that it can run all cores at that speed.
BTW, what CPU voltage are you using? I really hope it’s not anything above 1.32-1.33V.

Return it to stock boost, down load HWiNFO64 and use the sensor mode to monitor your system. You will see that only 1-2 cores are running at 4.2GHz at max and only briefly. The rest of them are running lower for max boost. 1-2 cores will be around 4.15~4.175GHz and the other 2 will be around 4.125~4.15GHz.
During gaming the average clock for the best cores will be around 4.1~4.15GHz
That’s how a Ryzen3000 works.

Trying to OC to all core max boost is unrealistic and you’ll end up damaging or degrading you CPU. It will be a waste of money to change to 10400F.

You are worrying that the CPU will bottleneck the system, but that’s wrong. This CPU can drive easily even high-end GPUs. If you want more FPS buy a better GPU and keep the rest the same.

If you experience any game stutters then seek the problem elsewhere and not on the CPU.

The system is stable but the way you want to run it is unstable. I use this CPU for almost 18months now with a 5700XT and it doesn’t have any issues.