Intel "Ice Lake" IPC Best-Case a Massive 40% Uplift Over "Skylake," 18% on Average

[ratirt]

Having HT turned on would make a world of difference in fighting AMD. That is exactly what causes big losses for Intel CPUs in production benchmarks vs Zen.

You are missing the point. Intel doesn't want to fight back. Was never interested in fighting AMD back. Intel wants to win the battle. Diminish the opponent and show superiority just as it has been for the couple of years when Intel's products were superior to AMD's. having a processors 6c 12t or 4c 8t is not going to win the battle for Intel against AMD.

 

[londiste]

having a processors 6c 12t or 4c 8t is not going to win the battle for Intel against AMD.

Why not? As an example, 9600K with 6c/6t is currently intended to compete with 2600x 6c/12t. If not for less threads it would be very competitive in production performance as well. There is a similar situation with Ryzen 7 and i7 and Ryzen 3 and i3.

 

[EarthDog]

Why not do 4c/8t, 6c/12t, 8c/16t like competition does. All this quite literally exists in the same pieces of silicon they are selling (= no additional cost).

Intel is currently not selling any 4c/8t or 6c/12t CPUs for consumer.

I dont have that answer... Respectfully WGAF though? There is the 8700k and w/e the 4/8 count derivative (8600k?) Are still for sale... just like zen+ will still be too.You act like coffelake improved on anything except clocks. Why fill that portion in and waste precious silicon when they are already limited?

All I know is that they didnt drop HT because of vulnerabilities. It's an interesting theory, but I dont buy it. Maybe Intel is the only saner one not pumping useless core and thread counts into the mainstream platform.

 

[plonk420]

the frustrating thing is how long Intel has been sitting on the same IPC. tho, i suppose it's good they didn't swoop in with Ice Lake before Zen 2 launched, giving AMD some breathing room and some room for competition for a while