Intel Launches Site Detailing Optane Requirements: Skylake Users Need Not Apply

[JalleR]

Remember that it is a joint venture with Microm, so maybe Micron will make a M.2 or PCI-E card to all other users...

my guess is that intel will make a PCI-E and other form factors as well that is more flexible.

I know for a fact that some BIG companies is/has been testing these tech on bigger server platforms the past half year, so I guess there will be some support on older systems that the 7000 series.

 

[Breit]

This probably means that Intel's upcoming HEDT Skylake-X is also not supported?

 

[qubit]

Skylake is amongst the most surprising of these exclusions, because it is nearly identical architecture-wise to Kaby Lake and a Skylake based chip was once used in a Optane test demonstration.

Not so surprising when you think of the obvious money grab by Intel to encourage people to use the latest CPU.

Can't wait for Ryzen to give Intel a kicking.

 

[Homer_liu]

Can someone please explain to me how this is different than me just popping in a PCI-E m.2 SSD on my board? Seems confusing honestly

Because of its feature, the 3D-Xpoint can be used as a hybrid application of SSD and DRAM. So the scenario can make data much closer to CPU than NAND. The change will enhance the data rate and give rise to a evolvement of x86 architecture. But the drawback is 3D-Xpoint will consume more power.

 

[EarthDog]

A couple of watts?

 

[Fujikoma]

Wouldn't Micron be able to release their version of Optane that is compatible with everything out there that Intel isn't willing to support? Seems like it would come down to a controller chip on a drive or M.2 card to communicate whatever protocol is used on that interface, be it DDR4, PCI-E, SATA or USB.

 

[Caring1]

This probably means that Intel's upcoming HEDT Skylake-X is also not supported?

I was just wondering the same thing after reading they will be based on the older Skylake architecture.
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...launching-in-august-2017.230943/#post-3606834
It appears Intel are just rushing something out to compete with AMD in the interim.

 

[EarthDog]

They aren't rushing anything...

And, the difference in ipc between skylake and broadwell-e won't help with what AMD is going to put out... Unless they process it accordingly...which I doubt.

 

[Homer_liu]

Because of its feature, the 3D-Xpoint can be used as a hybrid application of SSD and DRAM. So the scenario can make data much closer to CPU than NAND. The change will enhance the data rate and give rise to a evolvement of x86 architecture. But the drawback is 3D-Xpoint will consume more power.

Recently, I find the Everspin released the MRAM SSD that has much better performance than 3D-Xpoint. It seems that DRAM can be replaced by it in system. So if it is true, the data can be moved to DIMM location same as DRAM. At that moment, the performance can be improved further.