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TSMC is wrong.
N7+ is 114 MTr/mm^2
N5 is 138 MTr/mm^2
Scaling is 1.21x
N3 is 224 MTr/mm^2
Scaling is 1.62x
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N7 - 91.2–96.5TSMC is wrong.
N7+ is 114 MTr/mm^2
N5 is 138 MTr/mm^2
Scaling is 1.21x
N3 is 224 MTr/mm^2
Scaling is 1.62x
7 nm process - Wikipedia
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5 nm process - Wikipedia
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3 nm process - Wikipedia
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The density depends on the proportion of logic, SRAM, analog elements, etc.TSMC is wrong.
N7+ is 114 MTr/mm^2
N5 is 138 MTr/mm^2
Scaling is 1.21x
N3 is 224 MTr/mm^2
Scaling is 1.62x
7 nm process - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
5 nm process - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
3 nm process - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
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I would assume that TSMC themselves would be more in tune with what their own nodes can do compares to whatever extrapolation one can make based on the raw numbers. Besides, I think they are comparing base N7 to N5. Not the advanced variants.TSMC is wrong.
N7+ is 114 MTr/mm^2
N5 is 138 MTr/mm^2
Scaling is 1.21x
N3 is 224 MTr/mm^2
Scaling is 1.62x
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In addition to that there are usually at least 2 variations optimized for area and performance respectively. The performance (read: clock speeds) optimized one comes with about 30-40% density penalty.The density depends on the proportion of logic, SRAM, analog elements, etc.
Which I always find funny. First ARM processor was released just 7 years after the Intel 8086. 39yrs vs 46yrs. People act like it is the new kid on the block.“x86 is old and should be shot behind the shed, ARM is the way”
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Yeah, I can at least remember ARM back on early 2000s PDAs and the like. Adequate for the job then, but it’s not like those devices were brimming with possibilities and features.Which I always find funny. First ARM processor was released just 7 years after the Intel 8086. 39yrs vs 46yrs. People act like it is the new kid on the block.
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These devices were absolutely brimming with possibilities and features. I would argue what was missing was the environment to really facilitate a (smart)phone as we think of it today. In very early 2000s Wifi was still new. For mobile data there was GPRS, 3G became a thing somewhere 2003-2005 and took a while to adopt. Resistive touchscreens were prevalent. And this is just the hardware side of itYeah, I can at least remember ARM back on early 2000s PDAs and the like. Adequate for the job then, but it’s not like those devices were brimming with possibilities and features.
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The Skymont E-core versus Zen 5c comparison will be interesting but at the end of the day its all about the power. Chip space on package doesn't affect purchasing decisions but less size sometimes means less TDP.
But we do have some preliminary information to look at. For instance the Epyc 9754 which uses 128 Zen 4c cores with hyperthreading has a TDP of 360W. The new Xeon 6700E which uses 144 Skymont E-cores with no hyperthreading has a TDP of 330W.
Intel Xeon 6700E "Sierra Forest" CPUs Launched: Up To 144 E-Cores, 330W TDP, 34% More Efficient Versus AMD EPYC Bergamo (wccftech.com)
I'm not seeing a big difference here in TDP and potential performance between these two chips and the Epyc 9754 has been on the market for a year.
Yeah but the Pl2 last for 50 seconds or something. When you are actually using it, it drops to 35. Due to the IO die, that's just impossible for amd desktop chips.
it can be disabled or set so it uses as much power as it can
my gaming laptop says otherwiseYuk yuk and more yuk
I am not sure where this new obsession with battery life is comming from but its been litteral years since battery life on any laptop was a concern
Intel needs to step back and re-think what they are doing AMD went down this road of chasing some illusionary rabbit and nearly went bankrupt
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That's why they come with power bricks.my gaming laptop says otherwise
its a laptop why cant it have more that 3 hours of runtime when not running heavy programs and my power adapter killed it self right when the warranty endedThat's why they come with power bricks.
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If you really want to know why then complete relevant physics classes at coursera, edX, or watch MIT opencourseware videos. Alternatively, seek knowledge at forums that are capable of answering such a question - TechPowerUp forum is definitely NOT capable of answering your question.its a laptop why cant it have more that 3 hours of runtime when not running heavy programs and my power adapter killed it self right when the warranty ended
AI in it's current form is a bunch of BS. It's the new thing big Tech want to use to drain even more money out of the masses. I work in the creative industry but I can't find any use in any AI tools.
So you are saying Intel is at least a generation behind AMD in server? They can only match AMD's old Epyc using their newest server CPU.
Why can't they just make cpus more energy efficient when not heavily used I Know 100wh will only go so far if it's the maximum size but they don't even tryIf you really want to know why then complete relevant physics classes at coursera, edX, or watch MIT opencourseware videos. Alternatively, seek knowledge at forums that are capable of answering such a question - TechPowerUp forum is definitely NOT capable of answering your question.