Intel owners who have switched to AMD

[FinneousPJ]

Hi, just curious how you like the AM4 platform? Is it as smooth as running an Intel? Any quirks? Regrets? Would you do anything different?

I am running a Z77 system and would like to move into something newer. Years ago I told myself I would have to try AMD again when they are beating Intel again. Looks like the day is here. The last time I ran AMD it was a little quirky.. Performance was excellent, but stability.. eh.. not so much. In these crazy days my money is limited, and I don't want to waste it on a system I may end up regretting. My family uses my computer so the stability isn't just for my sanity. If I did end up rolling with AMD, who makes the most stable boards? I dont mind spending a few bucks if its worth it. I probably wouldn't be going with the newest that's out, but maybe something second gen-ish.

Thanks!

I switched from X58 i7 920 to AMD R7 1700 to R5 5600X. I'm very happy with it.

If money is tight I wouldn't recommend upgrading right now. What is lacking in your current level of performance?

 

[Sithaer]

Switched from a i 3-4160 in 2018 may after using the i 3 for 3 years or so.

I mainly had AMD systems tho, only ever had that i 3 and a very old celeron but that wasn't my own system so it doesn't really count.

With this Zen 1 + B350 / 1600x system I only had XMP issues with a certain earlier BIOS version that gave me random BSOD but after they fixed that its rock solid ever since. 'I'm not ocing anything'

Now that I think of it this system is more stable now than the i 3 system I had, for some reason that system had a hang up/freeze issue completely randomly and nothing really fixed it.

 

[Frick]

A 2600 on a decent mid level B450 or X470 motherboard with either of those coolers should work very well for you.
And as for OCing you should be able to OC a 2600 to 3.9 - 4 GHz (possibly even 4.1 GHz) with either of those coolers and good case airflow.
The Meshify C you have is a good case for airflow.
Just be sure to get 2933-3200 RAM that is compatible with the Motherboard and CPU you end up choosing.
Ryzen CPU's like fast RAM.

I have a 2600 (OC'd to 4 GHz) on an Asus ROG Strix B450-F using an Arctic 33 eSports cooler.
Look at my Signature for the full specs of my 2600 rig.

PS
The 2600 rig is my First ever AMD rig and I am Very happy with it and even Happier with my newer 3700x rig.

You don't even need a mid tier motherboard, and overclocking is sorta pointless, just turn the boost on and let it handle itself. I just bought the cheapest B450 motherboard I could find and it's a-ok. Granted I was gifted the 2600x, but still... Had a Haswell i3 prior to that. I did get a Ryzen 5 1400 and even that was a nice boost compared to the i3, at least in what I did.

 

[thesmokingman]

I went from an oc'd 7820x to a 3900x. I don't miss the 7820x at all.

 

[sam_86314]

Went from an i7-2600K to an R5 2600X. No regrets at all. It performs noticeably better in all workloads.

Hoping to snag a cheap 3900X in the near future.

 

[SL2]

For my cooler I have Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT, or True Spirit 140 Power that I will be using, not sure which one yet..

IIRC, those models lacked AM4 support back in the day, and the parts needed from TR were hard to find.
It probably depends on when you bought them, as I believe newer ones supports AM4. Probably not impossible to solve, but just a heads up.
Edit: Found this link, dunno if still valid: http://thermalright.com/2017/02/21/thermalright-amd-am4-cpu-mount-upgrade/

As a side note, if you happen to have one of the TR mounting brackets with an adjustable angle, you should know that the diagonal of the 115x/1200 mounting holes is almost the same as for AM4. The holes aren't very tight to begin with, it should work with a different back plate.

1151 = 106.07 mm
AM4 = 104.96 mm

 

[NoJuan999]

You don't even need a mid tier motherboard, and overclocking is sorta pointless, just turn the boost on and let it handle itself. I just bought the cheapest B450 motherboard I could find and it's a-ok. Granted I was gifted the 2600x, but still... Had a Haswell i3 prior to that. I did get a Ryzen 5 1400 and even that was a nice boost compared to the i3, at least in what I did.

OCing a 2600 was definitely NOT pointless for me.
My OC'd 2600 outperforms a stock 2600x.

AMD Ryzen 5 2600 @ 4018.3 MHz - CPU-Z VALIDATOR

[fc46tt] Validated Dump by DESKTOP-SCDEG4D (2019-08-15 18:46:01) - MB: Asus ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING - RAM: 16384 MB

valid.x86.fr

4 GHz all core OC made a Big difference for me when encoding videos.

On my 3700x that is true though, OCing is pretty pointless IMO.

 

[Stewen1967]

If you will allow me to tell you my own opinion.
I started my first IBM AT 286 20mhz.
There was no such thing that OC had only minimal bios to adjust for better performance. 386, 486, Intel amd platform was all kinds.
Then the OC craze came to me 10 years ago.
My conclusion is that no matter what platform, it is stable only at factory values. I can gain more and stable operation with operating system optimization than with an OC processor or RAM.
What’s more, technology is still there today that OC is pre-installed and embedded in motherboards, overcrowded processors and RAMs by default. I don't have to deal with that either.
My today processor starts at 3800MHz and goes up to 5100Mhz Factory settings.. AMD is also a similar platform. Which one is better?
None of them.

 

[Toss]

I switched from Intel.
0 Crashes so far in 1 week. Intel was crashing in sony vegas constantly.

Also opening videos full screen, in youtube 4k is faster somehow.

 

[SL2]

Like a certain Steve of youtube fame said, comparing new brand X with old brand Y doesn't really tell us much.
Not a direct quote, and not directed at anyone specific..

 

[R-T-B]

The top of the line does not define the entire brand

But you can grade the overarching core design on IPC, which is what he was referring to, pretty certainly.

Zen 1 is under Haswell

As a former Zen 1 owner, it is more like equal to Haswell on IPC alone.

 

[seth1911]

nope it isnt

If im doing cinebench on same clocks on 1 core Haswell is a few % faster than Zen1, only Zen+ is similar


Or a funnyer thing, benchmark points over a few benchmarks, booth are quad cores:
Ryzen 3 1200 @ 3.4 GHz scores 1534
I5 4590s @ 2.8 GHz scores 1512

 

[8BitZ80]

Zen 3 maybe, but 300$ for a 6 Core in 2020

Oh come off it. Core count is only half of the story, if that. We're talking about a 6-core that can compete with the 8-cores from the previous generation in multi-threaded work and destroys in gaming with the fastest graphics card you can get. Everyone bitches and whines about the extra $50 like they're having to snip off their left nut with scissors, meanwhile I paid for mine with no complaints and I don't even have a steady income.

 

[seth1911]

Yeah a 5600X for 300$ is about 25% faster than a 10400F for 150$
But for 300$ u get a 10700F which is a 8 Core/ 16 Thread CPU


Yeah in 2020 u get an AMD 6 Core / 12 Thread CPU for the same price like a 8 Core / 16 thread CPU from Intel (300$)
Ill never thouht AMD wanna go higher than Intel, but they did it, and the Fanbase is cherring them

 

[Mussels]

I sold my last intel hardware yesterday, after getting my first zen 3 chip.


Oh lordy is it ahead of intel... well, of anything really.

Positives:
Single threaded is amazing (i'm getting 5,050Mhz boost)
Multi threaded is world class
Low power consumption/total heat output

Negatives:
Heat density. Doesn't matter how big your cooler, it's gunna run 80C+ in heavy multi threaded loads, but they are designed for this (its the boost mechanism)
Currently only really usable on boards with BIOS flashback, unless you have a zen 2 CPU and feel like using a BETA BIOS on a B450 or X470


If they do a refresh and find a way to get the heat out of the chips easier (improved solder TIM?) these things will get even better.

 

[8BitZ80]

I sold my last intel hardware yesterday, after getting my first zen 3 chip.

Oh lordy is it ahead of intel... well, of anything really.

Positives:
Single threaded is amazing (i'm getting 5,050Mhz boost)
Multi threaded is world class
Low power consumption/total heat output

Negatives:
Heat density. Doesn't matter how big your cooler, it's gunna run 80C+ in heavy multi threaded loads, but they are designed for this (its the boost mechanism)
Currently only really usable on boards with BIOS flashback, unless you have a zen 2 CPU and feel like using a BETA BIOS on a B450 or X470

If they do a refresh and find a way to get the heat out of the chips easier (improved solder TIM?) these things will get even better.

5GHz with the 5800X? Good griefus.

FYI on the multi-threaded thermals, I found that disabling PBO brings down the all-core frequency by a few hundred MHz but also reduces temps by ~12C on my 5600X. Mine was also pegged at 80C when it was enabled. The single-core performance remains unaffected from what I've seen with my testing. Could be worthwhile for long stints of rendering.

 

[Atomic77]

My Desktop was Intel i5 my laptop is Ryzen 5. I think the Ryzen is better.

 

[Hachi_Roku256563]

There's no integrated graphics in AMD's CPU, so to get the system going, you need a graphics car

Uhhhhh athlon 300ge 3200g 3400g?

 

[Sybaris_Caesar]

Yeah a 5600X for 300$ is about 25% faster than a 10400F for 150$
But for 300$ u get a 10700F which is a 8 Core/ 16 Thread CPU


Yeah in 2020 u get an AMD 6 Core / 12 Thread CPU for the same price like a 8 Core / 16 thread CPU from Intel (300$)
Ill never thouht AMD wanna go higher than Intel, but they did it, and the Fanbase is cherring them

Ughhh I thought when people on reddit downvoted others for excessive emojis it was childish. But jesus christ I wanna puke on a cat after reading your posts.

As for 5600X, there's been rumors for weeks now that non-X will release sometime later at $220.

And funny how Intel fans flipped in the matter of two years. Previously it was "Intel is still better at gaming" and now it's "Intel is better value"? Lol.

 

[Deleted member 185158]

Ughhh I thought when people on reddit downvoted others for excessive emojis it was childish. But jesus christ I wanna puke on a cat after reading your posts.

As for 5600X, there's been rumors for weeks now that non-X will release sometime later at $220.

And funny how Intel fans flipped in the matter of two years. Previously it was "Intel is still better at gaming" and now it's "Intel is better value"? Lol.

Lol. It's a cat and mouse game.

Fast/er really depends on how you measure things.
An FX processor was faster than Intels at unzipping for example (in that time period)

AMD finally beats Intel's performance. Finally passed 8700K by a little bit while Zen2 just still wasn't there yet.
Honestly, happy to see AMD with a spectacular product as always, but it's hyped up and late the the game.

Intel's chips got cheaper and AMD's got more expensive. The scale is balancing out finallly.

 

[AsRock]

If i was building another system it be another AMD build for sure, even more so now the new cpu's have been released.

 

[Sybaris_Caesar]

If i was building another system it be another AMD build for sure, even more so now the new cpu's have been released.

btw what the hell is a "ASRock AM4 Pro 4" motherboard? Is it B350? B450? B550? X370? X470? X570?

 

[dgianstefani]

I have a 5950x system that hits 5.25ghz boost with smt disabled in a 13L case. AMD is a no brainer right now.

 

[thesmokingman]

Lol. It's a cat and mouse game.

Fast/er really depends on how you measure things.
An FX processor was faster than Intels at unzipping for example (in that time period)

AMD finally beats Intel's performance. Finally passed 8700K by a little bit while Zen2 just still wasn't there yet.
Honestly, happy to see AMD with a spectacular product as always, but it's hyped up and late the the game.

Intel's chips got cheaper and AMD's got more expensive. The scale is balancing out finallly.

That reads like it pained you to write that.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Uhhhhh athlon 300ge 3200g 3400g?

Really? Those are still APUs and they're Athlons, not Ryzen
Was the OP asking about Athlons?