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Intel Says AMD EPYC Processors "Glued-together" in Official Slide Deck

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What is that BS about gaming power consumption of Ryzen??? Of course it has lower power consumption because of the limits of the Ryzen architecture it can't be properly utilized and provides sub par performance to an "only" 4 core chip...Actually Ryzen's single core performance is sh..t and a lot of applications still relies on lightly threaded performance where high single core performance is needed. Overclockability of Ryzen is mostly presented as 4 GHz as a matter of course, but that's not the case, lot of Ryzens are really rubbish binned and some can't even do 3.8 GHz.

BS is what you write here. SP performance of Ryzen is same as Broadwell and about 10percent lower than Skylake. And i dont know where do you get that 3.8 GHz bullshit i have a 3 ryzen systems and all do 3.8GHz no problem. Slight voltage raise is all they need, one even does it at stock voltage. And about gaming benchmarks lets say ryzen is 15 percent slower in games while having 10 percent lower IPC and up to 15 percent lower clocks. IS that bad ? And also this as you say shitty SP performance lower clocks and bad utilization. Only create a 15 percent performance defficit in Single threaded applications than well done AMD.
 
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Doesn't it all come down to the consumer and what we'll buy for our dollar?

Yeah, Intel is trying to convince people that AMD's products are shit, but those of us who use them at home (I mean my 1700X system) are liking how they perform. Benchmark comparisons don't always paint the full picture for home usage. They remain an indicator at best.
Big Blue has shown us in the past that they can get pretty aggressive against the competition that they face.
Anti-Trust issues have cost them a lot of money before. (we all know that they have deep pockets for such expenses)

Seeing them trying to kneecap AMD's Threadripper product is just business as usual for them.
Looking at the negative reviews concerning their X299 platform's VRM heat issues, and CPU power usage stifling decent overclocks makes me thing that they're throwing rocks from inside a glass house.
I'm reading about these issues all over the web tech world.

Make no mistake, I love my three Intel boxes X99, Z120, and Z97. They were as good as I could afford at the time and I'm not disappointed with any of them.
I took my time and waited for reviews and secondary reviews on them all before I bought. They were superior to AMD at the time.

But now, it's not so true anymore. (and if it is, it's not by such a wide margin anymore)
I really like seeing AMD kick it up. I hope that they gain more market share too.

EDIT: I just tested my Ryzen 1700X system against my X99 i7-6850K Box.
The Ryzen outperformed the Intel in some of the tests, but the screen I'm using with it will only go to 1600x1200 resolution. Passmark took points off of my score for that.

Here are a few pics of the results. The first pic is the Ryzen, and the second is the X99.

Ryzen Passmark.JPG
X99 Passmark.JPG
 
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Doesn't it all come down to the consumer and what we'll buy for our dollar?

Yeah, Intel is trying to convince people that AMD's products are shit, but those of us who use them at home (I mean my 1700X system) are liking how they perform. Benchmark comparisons don't always paint the full picture for home usage. They remain an indicator at best.
Big Blue has shown us in the past that they can get pretty aggressive against the competition that they face.
Anti-Trust issues have cost them a lot of money before. (we all know that they have deep pockets for such expenses)

Seeing them trying to kneecap AMD's Threadripper product is just business as usual for them.
Looking at the negative reviews concerning their X299 platform's VRM heat issues, and CPU power usage stifling decent overclocks makes me thing that they're throwing rocks from inside a glass house.
I'm reading about these issues all over the web tech world.

Make no mistake, I love my three Intel boxes X99, Z120, and Z97. They were as good as I could afford at the time and I'm not disappointed with any of them.
I took my time and waited for reviews and secondary reviews on them all before I bought. They were superior to AMD at the time.

But now, it's not so true anymore. (and if it is, it's not by such a wide margin anymore)
I really like seeing AMD kick it up. I hope that they gain more market share too.

EDIT: I just tested my Ryzen 1700X system against my X99 i7-6850K Box.
The Ryzen outperformed the Intel in some of the tests, but the screen I'm using with it will only go to 1600x1200 resolution. Passmark took points off of my score for that.

Here are a few pics of the results. The first pic is the Ryzen, and the second is the X99.

View attachment 90188 View attachment 90187

Just for perspective this is my 5960X.

 

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I usually stay with the Benchmark tests that most of us use, but I wanted to try it out.


That 5960X is a beast, but way out of my budget.
 
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blah blah blah sure ryzen's are good chips but switching from a 4.69ghz@1.3v( conservative) unless free ... well it could be down to each and everyone's case/preference, I game on sc2, chronos matters[ clocks]
 
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What is that BS about gaming power consumption of Ryzen??? Of course it has lower power consumption because of the limits of the Ryzen architecture it can't be properly utilized and provides sub par performance to an "only" 4 core chip...Actually Ryzen's single core performance is sh..t and a lot of applications still relies on lightly threaded performance where high single core performance is needed. Overclockability of Ryzen is mostly presented as 4 GHz as a matter of course, but that's not the case, lot of Ryzens are really rubbish binned and some can't even do 3.8 GHz.

wow... Intel fanbaby detected!
 
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The reviews are out, and Threadripper seems to be a real sweet-spot for a lot of people.

I think that if Intel ~or~ AMD want loyalty, they should buy dogs.
That said,....I really like both my X99s, my Ryzen, and the new i9-7900X that I just traded some video cards for.
These are the best of times to be a consumer!
 
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