Is My Graphics Card Getting Enough Power?

eidairaman1 · Mar 4, 2019

avrona said:
I do value it a lot, it's just that there's literally not much I can, and thankfully from what I read I don't I do need to do much as most 8 pins only have one ground wire more and sense.

If anything Id have an adapter with 14 gauge wire if possible...

phill · Mar 4, 2019

eidairaman1 said:
The PSU is pretty stout despite the age.

44 Amperes should be plenty.

Just for clarification, what is his PSU? His system specs show XFX TS550 Bronze??

avrona · Mar 4, 2019

phill said:
Just for clarification, what is his PSU? His system specs show XFX TS550 Bronze??

And that is my PSU.

eidairaman1 · Mar 4, 2019

phill said:
Just for clarification, what is his PSU? His system specs show XFX TS550 Bronze??

Look at this Link

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...ard-getting-enough-power.253232/#post-4005448

Toothless · Mar 4, 2019

I would honestly be waiting for that PSU to blow and take other things with it.

phill · Mar 4, 2019

Judging by the man Jonnyguru and the forum here it might well be ok but please please, do yourself a favour and buy a new unit just in case.. Better to be out of pocket till another pay check than to risk your whole rig... That's just crazy to me...

How long have you had it?

eidairaman1 · Mar 4, 2019

Toothless said:
I would honestly be waiting for that PSU to blow and take other things with it.

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...tting-enough-power.253232/page-2#post-4005618

I posted what his psu specs are.

Even though my PSU is a different series, SS does make them pretty stout.

Mine for example max draw is 1355 Watts

phill · Mar 4, 2019

eidairaman1 said:
Look at this Link

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...ard-getting-enough-power.253232/#post-4005448

I did see that and then couldn't see what his PSU was from the list.. But still, if it's an older unit, I'd still suggest buying another PSU.

Vayra86 · Mar 4, 2019

avrona said:
Well that's the one thing making my system run well, and there is actually very little bottleneck.

You say that, until you see the card in action on a balanced system. By raw numbers you stand to lose as much as 40% of the card's potential.

eidairaman1 · Mar 4, 2019

phill said:
I did see that and then couldn't see what his PSU was from the list.. But still, if it's an older unit, I'd still suggest buying another PSU.

Ok his PSU falls under TS series.

2 are 44 Amperes on 12V, 1 is 45,

Vayra86 said:
You say that, until you see the card in action on a balanced system. By raw numbers you stand to lose as much as 40% of the card's potential.

I just say let him upgrade when he is ready to, he claims to received the card free. Must be nice to have, any system from 2012 on would benefit from it.

cucker tarlson · Mar 4, 2019

well at 4k your fx8 is getting less load,if it were 1080p that'd probably mean a shutdown.I also advise power limit set to 80%,pascals undervolt pretty well.I remeber my 1080 could do pretty much the same at 65% power target with some core and mem oc as it did out of the box.

Vayra86 · Mar 4, 2019

Absolutely, I also said, until the funds arrive he has options, such as lowering power target. Was safely ignored. OP knows best.

Soldier on

avrona · Mar 4, 2019

phill said:
Judging by the man Jonnyguru and the forum here it might well be ok but please please, do yourself a favour and buy a new unit just in case.. Better to be out of pocket till another pay check than to risk your whole rig... That's just crazy to me...

How long have you had it?

Again, I can't really buy a new, and it will take me months to get a new one.

Also are you talking about the PSU or graphics card? The PSU came with the PC when I originally bought it in 2014, and the graphics card I have from October 2018.

phill · Mar 4, 2019

eidairaman1 said:
Ok his PSU falls under TS series.

2 are 44 Amperes on 12V, 1 is 45,

It makes me laugh when Googling for the specs on a 1080 Ti for amps and such, Nvidia don't say a thing about it, but as long as the OP understands the risk of using a slightly on edge or older unit for his hardware that could cause it to go badly wrong if it did, then that's fine and down to him

avrona said:
Again, I can't really buy a new, and it will take me months to get a new one.

Also are you talking about the PSU or graphics card? The PSU came with the PC when I originally bought it in 2014, and the graphics card I have from October 2018.

If it would take you months to save up for a new PSU, how long would it take you to save up for a new 1080 Ti or similar? Just food for thought... I just don't want to see/hear/read about anything going wrong with the system and you loosing a 'free' GPU...
Just out of interest, what is the model of 1080 Ti you have? EVGA, MSI etc? SC, FTW3, Gaming X?

avrona · Mar 4, 2019

phill said:
It makes me laugh when Googling for the specs on a 1080 Ti for amps and such, Nvidia don't say a thing about it, but as long as the OP understands the risk of using a slightly on edge or older unit for his hardware that could cause it to go badly wrong if it did, then that's fine and down to him

If it would take you months to save up for a new PSU, how long would it take you to save up for a new 1080 Ti or similar? Just food for thought... I just don't want to see/hear/read about anything going wrong with the system and you loosing a 'free' GPU...
Just out of interest, what is the model of 1080 Ti you have? EVGA, MSI etc? SC, FTW3, Gaming X?

Not sure what that food for thought is about but the card I have is an Aorus GTX 1080 Ti.

phill · Mar 4, 2019

avrona said:
Not sure what that food for thought is about but the card I have is an Aorus GTX 1080 Ti.

It's an expression

Aorus is a Gigabyte card if I'm correct in thinking? Well as I said above, if a PSU would take you months to save up for, how long would the 1080 Ti take to save up for? I hope you understand where I'm going with that....

64K · Mar 4, 2019

OP why did you make this thread? You decided before even doing it that what you were doing was ok.

Just in case I'm wrong about your intentions then my advice is to not use the 1080 Ti. Give up gaming or use your old video card. Get a part time job for 1 week. Buy a better PSU. Plug your 1080 Ti back in and game on.

avrona · Mar 4, 2019

phill said:
It's an expression Aorus is a Gigabyte card if I'm correct in thinking? Well as I said above, if a PSU would take you months to save up for, how long would the 1080 Ti take to save up for? I hope you understand where I'm going with that....

I know it's an expression, I was just wondering what your actual food for thought really had to do with anything. And yes, Aorus is a sub-brand of Gigabyte. And I still have no idea what how long it would take me to save up for a 1080 ti has to do with anything, but probably several years of buying nothing else.

eidairaman1 · Mar 4, 2019

avrona said:
I know it's an expression, I was just wondering what your actual food for thought really had to do with anything. And yes, Aorus is a sub-brand of Gigabyte. And I still have no idea what how long it would take me to save up for a 1080 ti has to do with anything, but probably several years of buying nothing else.

Where do you live?

avrona · Mar 4, 2019

eidairaman1 said:
Where do you live?

England, why?

phill · Mar 4, 2019

avrona said:
I know it's an expression, I was just wondering what your actual food for thought really had to do with anything. And yes, Aorus is a sub-brand of Gigabyte. And I still have no idea what how long it would take me to save up for a 1080 ti has to do with anything, but probably several years of buying nothing else.

I'll try to explain..

If it takes you a couple of years to be able to afford a GPU such as the 1080 Ti, then a few months that a PSU would take to save up, it's worth the wait don't you think?? Have you heard of a saying, prevention is better than a cure? I think that very much applies to this situation.

It's going to be up to you at the end of the day what you decide to do, anyone here or anywhere for that matter, can only offer you opinions and advice and then it's down on you if decide to take them. If you don't want to listen or take the advice then that is up to you.
I'm not going to keep saying the same thing and wasting my time, I don't mean to be rude but being blunt doesn't seem to be working either. I hope nothing happens to the card or your system in time, enjoy your gaming

MrGenius · Mar 4, 2019

I've killed numerous PSUs by running them harder than they could handle. Never had one even slightly damage anything else when it died. I'm pretty sure the likelihood of that ever happening is negligible/extremely low. Unless it were to catch fire in the process...also not too damn likely to ever happen.

Bottom line: Just run it 'til it croaks. Then you'll have no choice but to buy another one.

krusha03 · Mar 4, 2019

avrona said:
I do value it a lot, it's just that there's literally not much I can, and thankfully from what I read I don't I do need to do much as most 8 pins only have one ground wire more and sense.

The difference is rating of 75W vs 150W. As I said earlier:

krusha03 said:
So you have 1x6 pin and 1x8 pin and you use them as 2x8 pin. Do you have a power meter to check what you are pulling off the wall at load? Otherwise as previously suggested I would run the GPU at reduced power target of 80% until you get a new PSU.

A 6 pin connector gives you 75W, a 8 pin 150W and the PCI-E another 75W. So you config is good for up to 300W. With 2x8 pin + PCI-E you have 375W which at 80% is 300W

Also from the review:

I think the rest of your system at full load should take about 300W Max meaning when gaming (not doing CPU + GPU full load stress test) you are within limits of your PSU. However you normally want to ran your PSU at about 80-90% of max load and therefore I would recommend reducing the power target of your GPU and / or undervolting your CPU / GPU

Hardcore Games · Mar 5, 2019

I buy 850W or better power supplies all the time. This way I can ignore video card power demands.

Right now I have an AX860i which is 80 plus platinum so I am in a good place for gaming looking forward

arbiter · Mar 5, 2019

Hardcore Games said:
I buy 850W or better power supplies all the time. This way I can ignore video card power demands.

Right now I have an AX860i which is 80 plus platinum so I am in a good place for gaming looking forward

Any decent brand psu of 650-700watts should handle any single gpu on the market so don't need 800+.

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