Just a rant about AMD and their so-called "foolproofness"

[LittleBro]

I happen to be a little bit of an overclocking and undervolting enthusiast.

AMD Adrenalin is a great tool with simple and intuitive interface but it has an annoying "feature" called "Default performance tuning settings have been restored due to an unexpected system failure."

Just imagine a situation when you are testing uncommon gaming scenarios in existing or developing games and your GPU is far from being efficient or is outright unstable on stock settings. And whilst you're testing that game you run into crashes, sometimes dozens times an hour. And every single time you're forced to pull your refined settings back because of this quote-unquote "friendly" behaviour of their Adrenalin software which reverts clocks and voltages and whatnot to stock regardless of the nature of the crash.

I am exactly in this situation. My GPU has been thoroughly tested in a million possible scenarios proving my OC/UV settings are rock solid and not to be questioned. I am playing a game which is modded and crashes because of some bugs in mods I am trying to fix or at least work them around. This made me forced to use a 3rd party software piece to force my OC/UV settings to be applied on every startup.

That function that keeps resetting your changes to defaults is there for a reason. Maybe try to avoid Adrenalin software at all. AMD's Adrenalin and Ryzen Master software are absolutely unnecessary for overclocking. You can OC CPU through BIOS which I always find much better than using Ryzen Master and you can use MSI Afterburner or similar 3rd software for GPU OC. I install GPU driver only, never software suite. For me it's bloatware.

AFAIK, you can only make permanent changes to clocks and other GPU specs by flashing VBIOS.

 

[GerKNG]

My GPU has been thoroughly tested in a million possible scenarios proving my OC/UV settings are rock solid and not to be questioned

This is not a thing on modern Radeons
you can set up your Memory, core and Voltage and it runs 50 games 24/7 and everys synthetic load in existence and then there is one game where the GPU is not stable.
I had this on so many occasions that i refuse to overclock RDNA 2/3.
I can run path traced cyberpunk, every 3Dmark 24 Hours non stop and basically every game for ever until i found 3 very unstable games.
the main menu of Rocket league with MSAA and everything maxed out runs at like 1000 FPS and hammers the GPU like crazy (crashed in 90 seconds). Then there was GTA SAE and Forza Motorsport with every RT turned on and a lot of cars on the track.
Literally 6 months of 100% stability except in these three scenarios.

 

[Mathragh]

This is not a thing on modern Radeons
you can set up your Memory, core and Voltage and it runs 50 games 24/7 and everys synthetic load in existence and then there is one game where the GPU is not stable.
I had this on so many occasions that i refuse to overclock RDNA 2/3.
I can run path traced cyberpunk, every 3Dmark 24 Hours non stop and basically every game for ever until i found 3 very unstable games.
the main menu of Rocket league with MSAA and everything maxed out runs at like 1000 FPS and hammers the GPU like crazy (crashed in 90 seconds). Then there was GTA SAE and Forza Motorsport with every RT turned on and a lot of cars on the track.
Literally 6 months of 100% stability except in these three scenarios.

Limiting max fps in the driver might solve most of those edge cases?

 

[Bill_Bright]

Or maybe it was an incorrectly installed driver (stuff could have remained from a previous version, messing up how things work).

A good reason to (1) uninstall old then (2) reboot before (3) installing new - a practice and habit I got into long ago.

 

[_roman_]

That function that keeps resetting your changes to defaults is there for a reason. Maybe try to avoid Adrenalin software at all. AMD's Adrenalin and Ryzen Master software are absolutely unnecessary for overclocking. You can OC CPU through BIOS which I always find much better than using Ryzen Master and you can use MSI Afterburner or similar 3rd software for GPU OC.

I disagree.

I only game wiht windows 11 pro 24h2 wiht my 7800xt, before 6800 non xt, before 6600XT.

Afterburner is the wrong software. When you are mad, you may check out what igorslab has for overclock. But afaik that does not work on 7000 series card.

The windows amd gpu drivers are trash. just trash. I also had to revert the version. Some driver version will just not work. That's why i keep all the installers from computerbase.de/downloads

Every 4 months average all gaming profiles are lost for no reason. Or the windows 11 pro amd gpu driver tray icon does not show up anymore. Or the graphical user interface does not open anymore on a cold boot - rebooting solves that issue. That happens regularly and that happens again and again and again in a certain time period. If you do not see that bug for 2 months, feel free to see that bug in the 3rd or 4th month.

The correct way is to start a game because the windows amd gpu drivers does not find over 60 percent of any games. More than half of epic free games are not found.
Make a gaming profile. Stop the game. Finish the gaming profile. Than start the game again. The new profile is never applied when the gaming profile was created after the game was running. That is a long time bug. Fan curves are not applied. Zero fan mode on or off is not applied and such!

When you use a gaming profile and the game crashes - you have your default settings which are safe.

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For overclocking you have your uefi versions and your uefi settings on an usb stick for your mainboards. Overclocking is done in the uefi. Not in ryzen Master.

I do not have MSI afterburner installed. I do not have Ryzen Master installed. CPU has RAM Overclocking and lowered voltages. GPU has gaming profiles in windows 11 pro.

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Every windows game so far needs a different gaming profile.

To set fps to 45fps freesync range. To reduce the power consumption. A generic profile wastes power with a 7800XT / previous owned 6800 non xt.

Same settings are not stable with other games. Star wars jedi survivor did not like for example the same settings i used for hours with other games - a year ago.

I tune for the lowest wattage shown with the amd gpu driver overlay in those games wiht 45 fps target - up to 72 fps target. With a medium fan curve to keep gpu temperature low.