just bought a palit 2080TI..

[trog100]

it still bothers me a bit that they are still failing ..

trog

 

[EarthDog]

it still bothers me a bit that they are still failing ..

trog

Every card has failures. Are you upset with everyone for failures or artificially making this one more notable (for no reason)? Its over. Gone. Past.

Move on.

 

[bug]

it still bothers me a bit that they are still failing ..

trog

I could sell you my GTX 1060. It's guaranteed to be immortal

 

[the54thvoid]

Well, every failing card is a problem. My gut feeling is Nvidia's refusal to out numbers on it (or state the nature of the failure, for that matter) only made this one seem worse than it really was.
At the end of the day, it's not like anyone was left with a broken card.

Pretty much this. Nvidia hate bad PR but forget stealth PR is perceived far worse.

 

[64K]

Well, every failing card is a problem. My gut feeling is Nvidia's refusal to out numbers on it (or state the nature of the failure, for that matter) only made this one seem worse than it really was.
At the end of the day, it's not like anyone was left with a broken card.

True but some went through an incredible hassle after spending so much money. Having to do multiple RMAs to get a card that didn't artifact and then die. There was just last week someone here posting about having to do a 3rd RMA on a 2080 Ti that was artifacting.

No one should have to go through nonsense like that after spending $1,200 or more on a card.

 

[trog100]

I could sell you my GTX 1060. It's guaranteed to be immortal

i have a redundant mining rig upstairs with 8 1070 cards in it.. so i aint exactly short of graphics cards..

i was running a pair of 1070s in sli mode before i bought the 2080 TI.. i didnt really need the f-cking thing i just fancied buying it.. its now running at a 75% power setting and a 80 fps frame rate cap..

i am one of those people that cant tell the difference between 80 fps and 120 fps..

trog

Every card has failures. Are you upset with everyone for failures or artificially making this one more notable (for no reason)? Its over. Gone. Past.

Move on.

i dont think it has.. but you can think so if you want.. and dont forget this old thread fired up again because someone just had a 2080ti fail.. which does kind of make your comment nonsense..

trog

 

[EarthDog]

i dont think it has.. but you can think so if you want.. and dont forget this old thread fired up again because someone just had a 2080ti fail.. which does kind of make your comment nonsense..

And you are assuming that this failure is above and beyond normal failure rate (as I said artificially inflating it based on nothing)... kind of makes your comment nonsense, chief.

Worth noting that may have been missed is that the card was purchased back in mid-December. It isn't new or 'past the first batch'. So, one more piece of anecdotal data for the old cards. I can see if at this time we saw gobs of cards failing or the samsung batches dropping at the same rate, but the reality is we do not see that. It's done, trog. You don't have to agree, but you would be wrong not to .

As I said, move on.

 

[xkm1948]

Mine is still going strong. First batch as well. I feel the whole situation may be overblown because some folks “want” the fact to fit their specific narrative.

 

[trog100]

nvidia admitted there was a problem.. i think there was a problem..

it may well have been exaggerated but i did expect a better answer than a few test escapes..

my first card ran fine for over 200 hours of actual gaming then it died.. i still dont know why and doubt i ever will..

trog

 

[Vayra86]

Well, every failing card is a problem. My gut feeling is Nvidia's refusal to out numbers on it (or state the nature of the failure, for that matter) only made this one seem worse than it really was.
At the end of the day, it's not like anyone was left with a broken card.

The silence is never positive, it never works and it always breeds speculation.

Another thing it creates is uncertainty among the entire group of customers with a similar card. Who knows, it might crap out some day for undescribed reasons. All of that is something Nvidia alone can eliminate and its much better damage control than what they've done here.

Every card has failures. Are you upset with everyone for failures or artificially making this one more notable (for no reason)? Its over. Gone. Past.

Move on.

Why do you insist on downplaying everything you come across lately? Even in the face of new occurences? Yes, its still a small percentage, but it still is an unusually high one for such a product. I don't think its bad to acknowledge that. No one is left without a card regardless, nobody is bashing Nvidia for bad customer service... that is not the issue.

Imagine having bought one of these cards with a big pile of hard earned savings/cash. You're not going to be a happy camper seeing these reports.

 

[bug]

Why do you insist on downplaying everything you come across lately? Even in the face of new occurences? Yes, its still a small percentage, but it still is an unusually high one for such a product. I don't think its bad to acknowledge that. No one is left without a card regardless, nobody is bashing Nvidia for bad customer service... that is not the issue.

Imagine having bought one of these cards with a big pile of hard earned savings/cash. You're not going to be a happy camper seeing these reports.

Here is where we have a problem. What is the usual percentage for "such a product" and what is the percentage in this particular case?

True but some went through an incredible hassle after spending so much money. Having to do multiple RMAs to get a card that didn't artifact and then die. There was just last week someone here posting about having to do a 3rd RMA on a 2080 Ti that was artifacting.

No one should have to go through nonsense like that after spending $1,200 or more on a card.

The only point of contention we may have here is that I don't think anyone should ever have to spend anywhere near that sum for a video card in the first place

 

[Vayra86]

Here is where we have a problem. What is the usual percentage for "such a product" and what is the percentage in this particular case?

There are many signs that there was a batch that had an unusually high amount of failures. That is: 5% or more. Usually RMA rates run about 2-3%. Big die GPUs have a tendency to go higher, and when that happens, its a little event like this one.

It also seems they aren't failing left and right anymore, and there have been steps taken to mitigate the issue. Also, Nvidia thought it necessary to issue a statement.

 

[bug]

There are many signs that there was a batch that had an unusually high amount of failures. That is: 5% or more. Usually RMA rates run about 2-3%. Big die GPUs have a tendency to go higher, and when that happens, its a little event like this one.

It also seems they aren't failing left and right anymore, and there have been steps taken to mitigate the issue. Also, Nvidia thought it necessary to issue a statement.

Signs? Really?

 

[EarthDog]

Here is where we have a problem. What is the usual percentage for "such a product" and what is the percentage in this particular case?

A great point and why this conversation really doesnt have an end unless nvidia surfaces their numbers (lol).

Nobody knows. But weve seen stats from a couple of websites (some French site that stopped doing it but I think Puget systems shows theirs?) with varying rates from maybe 2-4% iirc. There's a bad card here or there which is an outlier but still single digits iirc. Ill bet money they were in the higher side. I'd guess 5% and would be surprised if it was over 10%. I have strong apprehensions (obviously ) that it is as high as some make it out to be. I believe an AIB(msi?) reported nothing over their averages on their cards.. but to be fair the FE's seemed more afflicted.

Rinse and repeat.

 

[trog100]

mine failed after around 200 hours of gaming use.. at one hours gaming per day that would be 200 days..

i dont know what hours the average 2080ti gamer puts in per day but i have feeling we have a few more failures to come yet..

trog

 

[EarthDog]

I'm sure there are failures to come from every card out there including RTX .

I wouldnt hold my breath for a spate of failures yet to come, honestly. Weve seen these take months to fail...weve seen it take weeks. They've been out for ~8 months. The 'first batch' that 'slipped through the cracks' has been in the wild since then. We're in the downslope for sure if not back to normal...its been awfully quiet. Lord knows if it still was a significant issue, the people would be vocal about a spate of failures.

 

[xkm1948]

mine failed after around 200 hours of gaming use.. at one hours gaming per day that would be 200 days..

i dont know what hours the average 2080ti gamer puts in per day but i have feeling we have a few more failures to come yet..

trog

About 6hrs of heavy CUDA / Tensorflow work with some gaming in between everyday.

I believe I got card earlier than you so yeah. No sign of failure yet.

 

[Zubasa]

mine failed after around 200 hours of gaming use.. at one hours gaming per day that would be 200 days..

i dont know what hours the average 2080ti gamer puts in per day but i have feeling we have a few more failures to come yet..

trog

IDK about what to come, but mine failed 3 weeks ago and recently came back from RMA.

 

[NdMk2o1o]

It's a well known fact that they're has been a higher than usual number of failures with these cards than previous generations, its been reported from many reviews, forums etc which is not the norm hence higher than usual. Why does every single topic on tpu have to turn into a contest or an argument, some people just have to pick apart everything.

 

[bug]

It's a well known fact that they're has been a higher than usual number of failures with these cards than previous generations, its been reported from many reviews, forums etc which is not the norm hence higher than usual. Why does every single topic on tpu have to turn into a contest or an argument, some people just have to pick apart everything.

Because "well known" is subjective in the absence of numbers. That's why.

 

[NdMk2o1o]

Because "well known" is subjective in the absence of numbers. That's why.

Where's your numbers to prove otherwise.... ohhhh you also don't have any, so the only data we have to go by is the more than usual reported failures which when presented with you simply state where's your numbers, where are your numbers btw? so you are as correct/wrong as me, nice one pal, did it take you all night to come up with this wise bit of wisdom to prove me wrong?

Awaiting stats and percentage numbers for you to prove your point since that seems to be your go to response to people who actually own the cards in question..

 

[bug]

Where's your numbers to prove otherwise.... ohhhh you also don't have any, so the only data we have to go by is the more than usual reported failures which when presented with you simply state where's your numbers, where are your numbers btw? so you are as correct/wrong as me, nice one pal, did it take you all night to come up with this wise bit of wisdom to prove me wrong?

Awaiting stats and percentage numbers for you to prove your point since that seems to be your go to response to people who actually own the cards in question..

And here is your real answer to why this discussion never ends. It's the "guilty until proven innocent camp" vs the others.

I may be old fashioned that way, but to put the blame on someone, I need more than internet whining. While I'm sure the failing cards are real enough, media's thirst for sensational is equally real (especially since there's nothing to report about AMD), so reports may very well be blown out of proportions.

 

[NdMk2o1o]

And here is your real answer to why this discussion never ends. It's the "guilty until proven innocent camp" vs the others.

I may be old fashioned that way, but to put the blame on someone, I need more than internet whining. While I'm sure the failing cards are real enough, media's thirst for sensational is equally real (especially since there's nothing to report about AMD), so reports may very well be blown out of proportions.

Sorry, I fell asleep, I see you still didnt say anything relevant

You're saying all these 2080 owners are lying and in your perfect wisdom, you know better even though you havent owned one? hmmmm ok

Can you tell which 3080 owners will be labelled as whiners also being as you wont spend £2k of hyour money on one, but still know their lying

 

[EarthDog]

I don't think anyone is saying they are not telling the truth... but we are also saying they were never failing 'hand over fist' as I saw someone quoted as saying. Being literal, I am sure the failure rate was higher than normal, but I surely don't think the roof was caving in like some users are saying. People may have the opinion that I am minimizing the issue.... that may be, but all is fair in love and war when there is another contingent sensationalizing how bad it really is (when nobody really knows). Think of it as a devil's advocate to keep people conscious and thinking.

 

[moproblems99]

Why does every single topic on tpu have to turn into a contest or an argument, some people just have to pick apart everything

For you answer to the above, see below.

Sorry, I fell asleep, I see you still didnt say anything relevant

You don't have to start spewing poo out of your mouth. This is we can't have nice things and everything devolves into piss wars. Keep it civil and discussions will last longer.

you know better even though you havent owned one?

I'm not sure what owning one out of a half million means? Does that mean if yours broke so did all others? What if yours didn't break, does that mean they are all good?