Kickstarted - Calyos NSG S0 Fanless Chassis With Phase Change Cooling

[pantherx12]

Phase change?

And compressor is.. where?

Seems tad bit too small to be effective TBH. In case you wonder how these things work or how to build one, I suggest http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/ ..

This seems different to what I saw tho..

First, let me apologize, I have an immature understanding of what this technology is because the article doesn't say much...

There is no zero-fan solution.

It does not exist. The most important part of any closed system is airflow. There are high-pressure and low-pressure systems, but there has to be efficient airflow or the case will build heat. The temperatures of the GPU and CPU are important, they should have thermal sensors, and they should be monitored and cooled effectively, but they are not the end-all when it comes to cooling. At the very least, there will be a fan that exhausts hot air from the case (as would be the most efficient option in a single-fan solution).

That being said, fan-less chassis are not a new concept, Streacom is a great example. Two heatsinks does not make something "phase-changing," new, or unique. There are still very inaudible solutions that are vastly superior to such a product.

Hey guys linus tech tips done a video on a computer based on this same technology and it performs pretty decently, he even overclocked it if I remember correctly and temperatures were better than most watercooling solutions from. What I remember.

As for the pump its a passive phase change system that instead has the heatpipes directed out of the enclosure and onto huge by regular PC standard heatsinks or fin arrays. I'm talking 20 kilos of heatsinks here so 20 times as much mass as your typical heavy duty air cooler with many times the surface area as well.

This is why it works so well because it's basically taking heatpipe design to ridiculous extremes.

An average consumer is never going to want a computer that weighs 20 kilos plus before you even take into account the rest of the system, too damn big and to damn heavy.

How ever quiet freaks who are also PC enthusiast might sacrifice ease of use for thermal and acoustic performance.

 

[yogurt_21]

Well, they did it and it cools the cores better than the stock air cooler. So, what's your point now? The rest of the PCB and VRM of the motherboard and GPU, on the other hand, I wonder about.

it's a kickstarter... the product might as well be vaporware.

Until its sold through retail or e-tail none of these claims will be verified. Instead all you're doing is putting blind faith in the fact that a company who couldn't find any legitimate investors, actually has a decent product.

good luck with that bro.

 

[ty_ger]

it's a kickstarter... the product might as well be vaporware.

Until its sold through retail or e-tail none of these claims will be verified. Instead all you're doing is putting blind faith in the fact that a company who couldn't find any legitimate investors, actually has a decent product.

good luck with that bro.

It's not blind faith if you look at the photos, videos, and testimonials of other people who have viewed it, reviewed it, tested it, or own a similar product which the same company custom-made for them. It isn't hard to find if you look. I won't give you the links. The first post already gave you the links for you to follow.

But, whatever, dude. You have almost 5000 posts here but apparently can't use the internet.

This is a product from an established company using a technology which the company has been testing, using, improving upon, and selling for years. They already have investors and already have customers. This is a way for them to get a new consumer product -- a segment of the market which is new to them -- on the market in larger mass at a faster pace.

 

[yogurt_21]

It's not blind faith if you look at the photos, videos, and testimonials of other people who have viewed it, reviewed it, tested it, or own a similar product which the same company custom-made for them. It isn't hard to find if you look. I won't give you the links. The first post already gave you the links for you to follow.

But, whatever, dude. You have almost 5000 posts here but apparently can't use the internet.

This is a product from an established company using a technology which the company has been testing, using, improving upon, and selling for years. They already have investors and already have customers. This is a way for them to get a new consumer product -- a segment of the market which is new to them -- on the market in larger mass at a faster pace.

established companies don't do kickstarters...

this is the coolest cooler for computer cases...

again good luck with that

and what reviews? who has one? all I see are people saying "wouldn't it be cool?"
http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/calyos-workstationfanless/
no temps, no comparisons, nothing more than an ad

logoster4 months ago
"This is the only prototype in existence" So, they made a basically silent PC with zero fans whatsoever, and then proceeded to send the only prototype in existence to LINUS? yeah that couldn't possibly end badly

they made 1??? yeah that's an "established company"

I can friggin make 1. few more feet of pipe and a trip to the junkyard to gut existing radiators.

know how many concept cars are made? how many can you buy? oh wait just the 1... great

friggin fanboy of something you can't even buy.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

this looks almost like a good idea. Except no passive air over the MB's and it's VRM's along with the VGA and its' VRM's ......that MB is going to cook.

Also I am sure they look like fan mounts on the half built one, likely running low but them heatsinks are mahoosive.

 

[Prima.Vera]

Just look at that radiator guys. This thing is going to weight at least 20-25 kilos ))))

 

[Steven B]

it's a kickstarter... the product might as well be vaporware.

Until its sold through retail or e-tail none of these claims will be verified. Instead all you're doing is putting blind faith in the fact that a company who couldn't find any legitimate investors, actually has a decent product.

good luck with that bro.

So I am an editor at another tech publication, this company reached out and sent me one of their units, I have it here now for review. I also saw their unit at CES multiple times (like Supermicro had a version of their PC in their show suite).

 

[ty_ger]

they made 1??? yeah that's an "established company"

That was quite a while ago. They have more than one now. The current version doesn't even look like that one any more. Like I said, this is an established company which is established in a completely different market. This is there method of starting in the consumer market. Give them some slack. I am giving them slack because their product is actually very solid compared to all the other kickstarter scams out there.

 

[Dammeron]

Well, they did it and it cools the cores better than the stock air cooler. So, what's your point now? The rest of the PCB and VRM of the motherboard and GPU, on the other hand, I wonder about.

Their graphs show that AiO cools better then custom LC, so for me it's already a bunch of marketing BS.

 

[Blueberries]

So, what's your point now? The rest of the PCB and VRM of the motherboard and GPU, on the other hand, I wonder about.

You answered your own question. Airflow is important. A computer has a much higher tdp than a phone or stereo or tamigochi, you can't just strap an oversized heatsink to the CPU and call it a day.

A single low RPM fan is magnitudes better than none.

 

[theGryphon]

I'm just interested in the multiple drink holders

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Ah, Americans and their obsession with drink holders

But this one was funny

 

[PowerPC]

Yeah but this would be a nightmare to clean, how ever looks kinda cool.

Nightmare? Just use a can of compressed air. I would argue it wouldn't take more than 10 seconds to clean the whole thing without even touching it, since it's already open.

 

[Mescalamba]

You don't need a compressor to make an chemical element change back and forth between liquid and gas states. All you need is an atmosphere (or other source of pressure), heat/energy, and the choice of the correct chemical element for your application.
You have heard of a vapor changer and/or heat pipe before, correct?

The powered (compressor, electrical, or combustion) phase change coolers are for creating cooling below ambient temperature. This phase change cooler acts more like your traditional water cooler to create cooling above ambient temperature. The phase change is used to create efficiency and a natural flow.

When I grew up, my parents had a refrigerator which was powered by nothing more than a burning kerosene flame. The flame caused a phase change with a strong enough upward flow of vapor in the tube, that it had a enough high-side and low-side pressure to cool items in the refrigerator to sub-ambient temperature. Google refrigeration if you don't understand "evaporator", "condenser", "expansion valve", and how any source with enough energy can make a specially designed refrigerator of enough size work.

For what it is worth, I have owned 2 sub-zero cooling phase change coolers of the type you originally referred to. I am aware of them and understand your question.

Aha, so its just changing temps between two locations. Much like green heating systems. Or those heatpipes. I expected that its classical vapor change, which are most interesting to me (sub ambient or sub zero stuff). Few companies even made them, just not for long.

 

[Hokum]

Didn't Zalman beat them by about 12 years with the TNN 500?

I built a PC for some one in about 2005 and it was an insanely hard chassis to build with.

Looked awesome though.

 

[Patriot]

Didn't Zalman beat them by about 12 years with the TNN 500?

I built a PC for some one in about 2005 and it was an insanely hard chassis to build with.

Looked awesome though.

Yup, this one has flexible heatpipes which may ease that install difficulty.

 

[shiguo]